Do You Think Competition Would Solve Alot Of Our Complaints With EA?

[PeterBDraggin]

I think it would fix alot of it, yes. Look at war games like CoD and Battlefield for example. They're constantly trying to 1-up the other to reign supreme. Competition brings out the best of anything in discussion. Whether that be video games, films, business, sports etc.

If EA and 2k sports both launched a NCAA game ( just an example, go with it) around the same time. You honestly think EA's product would be riddled with bugs? Especially since they've been doing this for like 12-13yrs? I know mistakes are made and things get overlooked/missed, but if there was competition and EA feared losing business you could bet your sweet azz a patch would already be out.

Im not saying 2k sports would put out a better game than EA, cause honestly I dont think they nor anyone could really. To me its all a matter of EA not living up to its potential. Theres nothing pushing them to put out a great game.

If your happy with the game then you havent been gaming very long, have low standards, or just enjoy gargling the sack of EA. Im not optimistic or pessimistic, Im a realist and I call it like I see.

[dingleberryfinn]

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I've always held the belief "competition is healthy"
but something tells me all complaints would be met with "then go buy the other game"

[Blue]

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One thing to consider is that ea only has ONE YEAR to make these games, same as 2k, so I'm never surprised to see bugs and glitches with few updates because pretty much as soon as they release the game it's time to turn around and start on the next one, I do understand your point that it could be better but in my opinion due to their limitation they get a winning formula and stick to it for a couple years, yeah some glitches remain too but nothing is perfect, NCAA 12 was a winner, it had its bugs and glitches but received solid reviews so I'm not surprised 13 isnt much of a leap and I don't expect 14 to be either, NCAA has one of the most difficult franchises, they have to master solid gameplay and ratings for 120+ schools(do you really think FCS schools would be accurate)and still have other game modes no other franchise has to face that. Overall I'm happy with NCAA, heisman mode could have been more personal and RTG lost a few little things I'll miss but I think I'll survive

[pirateraider]

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i think the problem at this point really is that the potential of the ncaa franchise in this generation of consoles is capped, and there isn't too much more EA could do other than minor tweaks and small additions

i truly believe that the makers of ncaa are actually focused on their next gen version of the game more than anything, and that when the new consoles drop that version of ncaa will be amazing, especially if reports are true that the next gen xbox will be 6 or 7 times more powerful than this gen

[buickbeast]

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People are going to complain about products they buy with their money no matter what. That being said, EA literally has no motivation to put serious money and resources into bringing NCAA or Madden to the level of quality that MLB: The Show or NBA2K has accomplished during this generation of systems. NCAA and Madden are going to be money makers for EA because Football is by far the most popular sport in America and there's only one game offered for college fans and one offered for NFL fans.
Last generation, it would be a safe bet to say that the football genre had the highest quality overall of any other sports genre.
Everyone knows the stuff that happened between the NFL and EA after 2k5 showed up. PS3/360 hit the market and NCAA and Madden are no where near the excellence of games like MLB: The Show or NBA2K11-12.
Another way to think of this is change the subject to the auto industry. Tons of competition, but what if only one auto company was allowed to make vehicles for the world? There would be no reason to improve x product because of a monopoly in the market.

[JerseySuave4]

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it's not EA's fault there isn't competition. Someone else can make a college game. They had a 6 year deal back in 05. Problem is no one else wants to step up and make a game because it isn't going to profit right away.

[Skyboxer]

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No. Not al all, period.

[Sdrawkcab321]

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Competition would bring on twice as many complaints

[PeterBDraggin]

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but something tells me all complaints would be met with "then go buy the other game"

Maybe from other forum members. I doubt EA or any business for that matter would have that kind of mind set. Just my .02 though

so I'm never surprised to see bugs and glitches with few updates because pretty much as soon as they release the game it's time to turn around and start on the next one

But what about the bugs/glitches in the SAME aspect of the game. If it was something new every year then that would be frustrating yes, but its even more frustrating when its the same thing. Just think of all the bugs/glitchs and then think about video game testing. You cant tell me that if they ACTUALLY played there product they couldnt find/fix some of these BEFORE release? Thats the most aggravating aspect of it for me. This forum had 2 pages riddled with problems,bugs, and glitches not more than 2 days after release :

i truly believe that the makers of ncaa are actually focused on their next gen version of the game more than anything

I hope your right and its not just another 1 of EA's marketing strategies. If EA's good for nothing else, their good at marketing.

That being said, EA literally has no motivation to put serious money and resources into bringing NCAA or Madden to the level of quality that MLB: The Show or NBA2K has accomplished during this generation of systems. NCAA and Madden are going to be money makers for EA because Football is by far the most popular sport in America and there's only one game offered for college fans and one offered for NFL fans.
Last generation, it would be a safe bet to say that the football genre had the highest quality overall of any other sports genre.
Everyone knows the stuff that happened between the NFL and EA after 2k5 showed up. PS3/360 hit the market and NCAA and Madden are no where near the excellence of games like MLB: The Show or NBA2K11-12.
Another way to think of this is change the subject to the auto industry. Tons of competition, but what if only one auto company was allowed to make vehicles for the world? There would be no reason to improve x product because of a monopoly in the market.

Agreed!

it's not EA's fault there isn't competition. Someone else can make a college game

Correct me if Im wrong, but EA has exclusive rights to NCAA intellectual properties. Yea someone could make a college game, but they wouldnt be able to use anything that has to do with NCAA...which would be pointless.

No. Not al all, period.

19k+ post...care to elaborate?

Competition would bring on twice as many complaints

Theres going to be complaints. I fully understand that. Nothing is perfect etc etc blah blah ... What Im getting at is THIS game is broke on so many levels a vast majority of the consumers cant even enjoy it. If there was a bug here glitch there, no problem, but thats not the case....at all!

[fballturkey]

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ALL problems? No. It'll push innovation more than reliability. At this point though nobody is in position to put out an NCAA football game that even touches EA's. To get a game with things like dynasty, all the stadiums, and the gameplay of NCAA would take at least a couple years (or more) to develop.

In a perfect world a competitor would come along and one game would trend toward sim players and the other toward arcade players, but I don't see that happening.

[JerseySuave4]

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Correct me if Im wrong, but EA has exclusive rights to NCAA intellectual properties. Yea someone could make a college game, but they wouldnt be able to use anything that has to do with NCAA...which would be pointless.

you're wrong. Back in 2005 EA signed an Exclusive deal with the NCAA basically making them the only ones who could make an official NCAA game. That deal ran out in 2011 so the exclusive deal between the NCAA & EA Sports is over (i've never read or heard that they re-did a new deal, i did hear that with EA & the NFL but not the NCAA). So another gaming company can make an NCAA Football game as long as they do what they need to do normally to be able to use the rights of the schools.

Problem is trying to take on EA in the NCAA Football market is a risk. EA has the name recognition so anyone on the fence will tend to lean with the familiar product. A college football game probably wouldn't profit in year 1 or maybe even year 2. It's just not worth it for a company like 2k to jump out and try making a college football game to compete with EA, when they are already cutting back on the games they make.

It sounds like a nice idea and we all love to bring up NFL 2k and hope that 2k will just step up and make a football game and save us all but that doesn't appear to be happening anytime soon and what other game company would you trust right off the bat?

[Skulletor]

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of course, you think EA would release alpha software if they knew people had other choices?

[pudgee691]

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Competition is good in most cases. I do believe if some company came out and produced say a "better" game then NCAA 13 (which I love, but can be better), they would be forced to up their game. There is an article on pastapadre that talks about how bad some reviews have been, which will force a better game for NCAA 14.

[blackball8]

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Competition is always better.

Best 3 nfl games I have played
1) Techmo Bowl
2) Front Page Sports (was for pc and was a stat geek/sim type of football game)
3) Madden

I think the point could be made that Madden made it's best games during the above timeframe when they were competing for exclusive rights to make an nfl franchise.

I think if EA was making games against a competitor, there would be bugs, but it would be bugs on truely new things. The bugs that exist in 13 are bugs that come from a stagnant franchise.

[JerseySuave4]

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or i could be wrong. According to the stuff i found earlier it said they signed a 5 year deal with the NCAA back in 2005. I didn't see anything about a renewed contract but in the article OS put on their front page it says they have a deal that runs out in 2014.

The proposed settlement, filed with the court on July 19, 2012, would establish a $27 million fund for consumers who purchased Madden NFL, NCAA Football or AFL games published by EA. If the settlement is approved by the court, consumers who purchased a sixth generation title (GameCube, PlayStation 2, and Xbox) may receive up to $6.79 per game. Those who purchased a seventh generation title (Wii, Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3) may be entitled to as much as $1.95 per game under the terms of the proposed settlement.

It also stipulates that EA will not sign an exclusive license arrangement with the AFL for five years and will not renew its current agreement with the NCAA, which expires in 2014, for at least five years.