EA Study Claims It Doesn't Use All College Likenesses in Video Games, Just Some

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  • RaychelSnr
    Executive Editor
    • Jan 2007
    • 4845

    #1

    EA Study Claims It Doesn't Use All College Likenesses in Video Games, Just Some



    You read that headline right. As the Ed O'Bannon vs. the NCAA lawsuit continues onwards in the courts, both sides are jockeying for what could be a blockbuster trial by next summer.

    In a recently filed study, EA and the College Licensing Company (CLC) claim that less than 25% of all men's basketball and football players were actually represented in EA's college athletic video games with their correct height, weight, home state and position.

    EA and the CLC, while arguing against the fact they don't use college athletes is claiming that they do in fact use some college athlete likenesses right down to their correct height, weight, home state and position. This seems highly counterproductive simply because we don't know the exact boundaries for how the study was done. If it required an exact match, then a player being 10-20 pounds too heavy or light would mean they weren't exactly represented, which seems to actually indicate more players than claimed are actually somewhat well represented within the game.

    Earlier in the winter, it was revealed that some NCAA e-mails tend to indicate that they knew about the use (but not use) of players likenesses in all but name.

    "The issue for me is that the names and likenesses are rigged into the games now by illegal means, meaning that many of the video game players have the features, it's just that our membership doesn't benefit from it," then NCAA Vice President Greg Shaheen wrote.

    The e-mails also revealed that the NCAA and EA have looked at trying to find ways to include real player names into the games, with no definitive ways to pull that feat off just yet.

    Thanks to the O'Bannon lawsuit, talk about whether to pay college football players is becoming a hot topic. This morning, Oklahoma Head Coach Bob Stoops chimed in, "I don’t get why people say these guys don’t get paid. It’s simple, they are paid quite often, quite a bit and quite handsomely."

    The O'Bannon and Sam Keller lawsuit alleges that the NCAA and EA Sports, amongst other entities, have been illegally profiting off of college athletes likenesses with no direct return to the athletes. This is an exceptionally important case which we have been following for several years now, as EA Sports stands to lose $1 billion if an unfavorable ruling for EA is handed down.

    It is our position that if Keller and O'Bannon do prevail, college football video games will likely cease to exist due to much higher licensing costs and little return on investment.

    Where do you stand on this case as of right now?
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  • PVarck31
    Moderator
    • Jan 2003
    • 16869

    #2
    Re: EA Study Claims It Doesn't Use All College Likenesses in Video Games, Just Some

    Just another game circling the drain.

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    • The_Wise_One
      Why Not Us?
      • Jan 2011
      • 2633

      #3
      This can't end good
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      • Bmore Irish
        The Future
        • Jul 2011
        • 3461

        #4
        i guess we better hope NCAA 14 turns out to be the enhanced game we've all been waiting for, could be the last

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        • buckeyedawgtribe
          Rookie
          • Feb 2012
          • 67

          #5
          Originally posted by Bmore Irish 69
          i guess we better hope NCAA 14 turns out to be the enhanced game we've all been waiting for, could be the last
          agree...i will be getting back on the NCAA horse. this game may end up being the new 2K8 college hoops game in that we may be playing and upgrading it for years

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          • guitar4468
            Rookie
            • Jul 2008
            • 84

            #6
            Re: EA Study Claims It Doesn't Use All College Likenesses in Video Games, Just Some

            I'm still confused why we can see a player on TV, on interviews, highlights for TV, Magazines, etc. Yet their name or likeness in a video game is over the lines?

            Secondly, these players did not have to play football. They could live their lives normally if they want. They know what they signed up for. Free school, food, room and board, healthcare, some spending money, grants, and a chance at the NFL. If the players win, they might be screwing over future athletes.
            Last edited by guitar4468; 04-10-2013, 02:11 PM.

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            • Jr.
              Playgirl Coverboy
              • Feb 2003
              • 19171

              #7
              Re: EA Study Claims It Doesn't Use All College Likenesses in Video Games, Just Some

              Originally posted by guitar4468
              I'm still confused why we can see a player on TV, on interviews, highlights for TV, Magazines, etc. Yet their name or likeness in a video game is over the lines?
              This particular lawsuit is dealing with EA and their videogames, but if it passes the precedent will affect many other areas.
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              • lowercasecurtis
                Rookie
                • Aug 2011
                • 184

                #8
                This Greg Shaheen seems like one greedy douche. Likeness is being added illegally, please, it's not like the game is being hacked to add in names. All I'm reading is "we (NCAA) aren't getting even more money than we already are, and we clearly need more money so I, I mean we, can buy a new yacht."

                I still believe this lawsuit isn't so much about the players getting paid but NCAA execs lining their pockets.

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                • BadAssHskr
                  XSX
                  • Jun 2003
                  • 3511

                  #9
                  Re: EA Study Claims It Doesn't Use All College Likenesses in Video Games, Just Some

                  let's face it, things like sambo keller, and other are used up, dried out, failed, has beens looking for a buck and a chance to pretend they matter one last time in their pathetic existence.
                  "Not the victory but the action. Not the goal but the game. In the deed the glory."

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                  • bad_philanthropy
                    MVP
                    • Jul 2005
                    • 12167

                    #10
                    Re: EA Study Claims It Doesn't Use All College Likenesses in Video Games, Just Some

                    Hilarious that the NCAA sells their license to EA in order to make money and increase their product's reach, and EA implements a feature like the ability to edit players as an enticement attracting more consumers, and then the NCAA complains that this is illegal. Editing players is pretty much a universal feature in sports games these days. Maybe they should have researched the nature of the product more before agreeing to sell the license for representation in a video game. The amount of advertising and profile schools and NCAA football get out of this game with younger and college aged kids is insane. I remember when I was at UO the game was a ubiquitous part of the student culture.

                    The other poster was right. Just Sam Keller and other has-beens trying to make a buck. Just sell your insurance or used cars and let it go dude. Not everyone gets to be Peyton Manning.

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                    • SilverChaosVII
                      Pro
                      • Jul 2007
                      • 559

                      #11
                      Re: EA Study Claims It Doesn't Use All College Likenesses in Video Games, Just Some

                      Originally posted by guitar4468
                      I'm still confused why we can see a player on TV, on interviews, highlights for TV, Magazines, etc. Yet their name or likeness in a video game is over the lines?

                      Secondly, these players did not have to play football. They could live their lives normally if they want. They know what they signed up for. Free school, food, room and board, healthcare, some spending money, grants, and a chance at the NFL. If the players win, they might be screwing over future athletes.
                      I think it's safe to say that 90% of athletes don't care at all. Actually, most of them probably enjoy it.

                      The NCAA is just out to make money. Anything that EA is forced to pay would never make it to the players anyway.

                      It's just the corruption that is the NCAA. It's a business that's only looking to profit. They act like it's all about "the kids" but it's not. It's just about them making money.
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                      • BenGerman
                        No Place Better
                        • Sep 2008
                        • 2752

                        #12
                        Re: EA Study Claims It Doesn't Use All College Likenesses in Video Games, Just Some

                        I know the consensus is that this wont end well for EA, but from what I've looked at, it seems like Keller and co. are grasping at straws a little bit. We'll see.

                        As others have mentioned, this is hypocrisy at its very worst.
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                        • LowerWolf
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Jun 2006
                          • 12261

                          #13
                          Re: EA Study Claims It Doesn't Use All College Likenesses in Video Games, Just Some

                          EA really shouldn't be able to use the likenesses of college players in their games. And it's pretty clear they do.

                          But the NCAA shouldn't be able to plaster corporate logos all over their events. And it's pretty clear they do.

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                          • RandyBass
                            MVP
                            • Dec 2009
                            • 1179

                            #14
                            Re: EA Study Claims It Doesn't Use All College Likenesses in Video Games, Just Some

                            Earlier in the winter, it was revealed that some NCAA e-mails tend to indicate that they knew about the use (but not use) of players likenesses in all but name.
                            Is this like uh... Like uh... Zen koan or something?

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                            • Bamantic
                              Banned
                              • Aug 2012
                              • 361

                              #15
                              Re: EA Study Claims It Doesn't Use All College Likenesses in Video Games, Just Some

                              I will be so disappointed if this lawsuit results in no more college football games because people want more money over bs.

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