NCAA Football 14 Presentation Video with Ben Haumiller Introduces Skills Trainer

[jello1717]

This is the video in relation to that blog, in this interview he talks about gloves and uniforms.

I am sorry you didn't watch the whole video but starting at 1:18 all he discusses are sights and sounds.

This video is not only about a skills trainer in fact it gets only a very small mention.

The skills trainer is the only new Info from that video which is why this thread is about the skills trainer.

[KANE699]

Re: NCAA Football 14 Presentation Video with Ben Haumiller Introduces Skills Trainer

This thread is not strictly just about a 18 SECOND mention of a skills trainer.

The video is called presentation updates.

You can discuss either in this thread.

[JerseySuave4]

It really pisses me off in this video where Ben talks about uniforms and says the 2 things they added was base layers and.... GLOVES?!?!? Seriously wtf? How do you have your art department spend time on the gloves for when teams celebrate with their hands together, but ignore the fact that cleats are a major part of the new uniforms??? We can't even get Oregon with the yellow on the cleats but at least they have an O on the gloves. Pretty much sums up the NCAA Football team.

[JerseySuave4]

this is NOT the sights and sounds thread. This is the skills trainer thread which has NOTHING to do with cleats.

It has something to do with cleats when he goes and talks about uniforms and gloves. If they're gonna keep talking about the uniforms, then the fact that they ignore the cleats will continue to get brought up. Unlike EA, we don't just act like these things only exist when we want them to.

[jello1717]

Re: NCAA Football 14 Presentation Video with Ben Haumiller Introduces Skills Trainer

Does EVERY thread that includes something new have to come back to cleats and helmets?!?!? Why can't there be just ONE thread that introduces a new feature without someone chiming in about cleats and helmets? Why can't we just discuss the new skills trainer and spitball about what it's going to include or if it's going to be in dynasty in this thread and that's it? Is that too much to ask?

I understand you guys really, really want these things, but seriously, EVERY thread?

I had forgotten that OS has an ignore feature ( click on their name and select "ignore user"). I imagine there aren't that many of these "cleat" guys that'll need to be ignored and its already making these threads WAAAAAY less of a pain in the *** to read.

It's nice in a browser as it deletes their post and just has their name and says you can't see their post because they're ignored, but it's absolutely gorgeous in tapatalk as it removes everything and you have no indication whatsoever of their post.

[ghettogeeksta]

Re: NCAA Football 14 Presentation Video with Ben Haumiller Introduces Skills Trainer

What the heck, why only like 10secs of the video mentioned Skills Trainer. They need to change the title of this video because it really didn't have much to do with the Skills Trainer feature.

[JerseySuave4]

Re: NCAA Football 14 Presentation Video with Ben Haumiller Introduces Skills Trainer

but it's absolutely gorgeous in tapatalk as it removes everything and you have no indication whatsoever of their useless post.

Oh the irony

ANYWAYS... pretty strange in a presentation video that Ben doesn't talk about the Presentation but does talk about uniforms. Would have expected some talk about David Pollack or the 2 songs they added for the crowd, not talk about Oregon having an O on their gloves. It says he introduces Skills Trainer but he talks about it for 10-15 seconds and we never get a glimpse of this Nike Facility that was built. I've never understood why they get so excited over these practice facilities they build each year. It used to just be some outside, grass practice field. Then we had an indoor facility. Now some Nike facility. They all do the same thing. None of them add anything better than the other.

I've never understood why EA hasn't taken more advantage of the ESPN brand. Why limit it to strictly ESPN when ESPN2 & ESPN U are all a part of the ESPN brand and could add variety simply by having a somewhat different presentation to them so it didn't feel like every game was on the same channel. On the next gen of systems I hope they expand to this and even add more broadcast teams to help add a unique experience depending on which channel your game is on. That was a Saturday Night Primetime game on ESPN won't feel the same as a 1pm Conference USA game on ESPN U.

[Big FN Deal]

Re: NCAA Football 14 Presentation Video with Ben Haumiller Introduces Skills Trainer

Oh the irony

ANYWAYS... pretty strange in a presentation video that Ben doesn't talk about the Presentation but does talk about uniforms. Would have expected some talk about David Pollack or the 2 songs they added for the crowd, not talk about Oregon having an O on their gloves. It says he introduces Skills Trainer but he talks about it for 10-15 seconds and we never get a glimpse of this Nike Facility that was built. I've never understood why they get so excited over these practice facilities they build each year. It used to just be some outside, grass practice field. Then we had an indoor facility. Now some Nike facility. They all do the same thing. None of them add anything better than the other.

I've never understood why EA hasn't taken more advantage of the ESPN brand. Why limit it to strictly ESPN when ESPN2 & ESPN U are all a part of the ESPN brand and could add variety simply by having a somewhat different presentation to them so it didn't feel like every game was on the same channel. On the next gen of systems I hope they expand to this and even add more broadcast teams to help add a unique experience depending on which channel your game is on. That was a Saturday Night Primetime game on ESPN won't feel the same as a 1pm Conference USA game on ESPN U.

Man I feel this post so much, EA football games seems to lack enough passion and imagination most the time. This year listening to Christian Mcleod about presentation was the most passionate and imaginative I have heard for NCAA football, he really seemed into it. Most of the stuff they do, talk about, hype, comes across like they are just doing their job, not that they are passionate about recreating football in these games.

I hope this all stems from the mistakes and limitations of this console gen and we can expect more depth, as well as nuance on the new consoles.

[XMrAngryEyesxX]

Re: NCAA Football 14 Presentation Video with Ben Haumiller Introduces Skills Trainer

In the next gen consoles hopefully they will revolutionize with the ESPN brand. Seeing how Madden was able to recreate Jim Nantz and Phil Simms in the booth then I don't see any reason why EA could not bring in a life like gameday presentation into the game modes such as dynasty and play now. In dynasty, after you are done with the week's preparation, you begin you're college football saturday with the crew from gameday as they highlight key games in your conference and around the top 25. Some may find this idea would take up alot of time but I think it would give gamers that college football feel that we really want out of the franchise.

[cparrish]

Re: NCAA Football 14 Presentation Video with Ben Haumiller Introduces Skills Trainer

In the next gen consoles hopefully they will revolutionize with the ESPN brand. Seeing how Madden was able to recreate Jim Nantz and Phil Simms in the booth then I don't see any reason why EA could not bring in a life like gameday presentation into the game modes such as dynasty and play now. In dynasty, after you are done with the week's preparation, you begin you're college football saturday with the crew from gameday as they highlight key games in your conference and around the top 25. Some may find this idea would take up alot of time but I think it would give gamers that college football feel that we really want out of the franchise.

I'm on the other end of the spectrum as I would rather see them spend more time working on the commentary itself that what the commentators look like in game.

[Hooe]

Re: NCAA Football 14 Presentation Video with Ben Haumiller Introduces Skills Trainer

It really pisses me off in this video where Ben talks about uniforms and says the 2 things they added was base layers and.... GLOVES?!?!? Seriously wtf? How do you have your art department spend time on the gloves for when teams celebrate with their hands together, but ignore the fact that cleats are a major part of the new uniforms??? We can't even get Oregon with the yellow on the cleats but at least they have an O on the gloves. Pretty much sums up the NCAA Football team.

I would venture to guess that any equipment worn on the torso, arms, or head takes precedence over shoes in football games because those are far more visible. There are never any close-up shots of players' feet in football like there is in soccer, and the culture around shoes in basketball has no corollary in football. Comparatively speaking, the gloves close-up shot is almost iconic in college football nowadays.

Further, from a gameplay perspective, the game is played from a far-zoom perspective, so any art changes to shoes are less likely to be noticed compared to changes to helmets and jerseys. The resources of the art team are allocated where the most return is possible.

My point is that Tiburon doesn't just decide stuff willy-nilly. There is a reason for lack of art emphasis on shoes. You don't have to like it, but to say that Tiburon doesn't know what they are doing because they don't allow a plethora of shoe options ignores the realities of the situation of making a licensed football video game. Resources are limited, and return must be maximized; shoes simply don't yield high return aesthetically in a football context.

[KANE699]

Re: NCAA Football 14 Presentation Video with Ben Haumiller Introduces Skills Trainer

I would venture to guess that any equipment worn on the torso, arms, or head takes precedence over shoes in football games because those are far more visible. There are never any close-up shots of players' feet in football like there is in soccer, and the culture around shoes in basketball has no corollary in football. Comparatively speaking, the gloves close-up shot is almost iconic in college football nowadays.

Further, from a gameplay perspective, the game is played from a far-zoom perspective, so any art changes to shoes are less likely to be noticed compared to changes to helmets and jerseys. The resources of the art team are allocated where the most return is possible.

My point is that Tiburon doesn't just decide stuff willy-nilly. There is a reason for lack of art emphasis on shoes. You don't have to like it, but to say that Tiburon doesn't know what they are doing because they don't allow a plethora of shoe options ignores the realities of the situation of making a licensed football video game. Resources are limited, and return must be maximized; shoes simply don't yield high return aesthetically in a football context.

See here is the thing though, you aren't adding more options and needing more room to free up to add and create any new items, you are literally editing the old oudated equipment and turning them into current shoes with different artwork.

This is not all that time consuming, trust me I was there when they put in the Underarmour shoes and the like into Madden, it was not a big task.

[sarlndr]

JerseySuave4 nailed it. Excellent post.

[ncaafootball14markus]

Re: NCAA Football 14 Presentation Video with Ben Haumiller Introduces Skills Trainer

Let's get the uniforms sort of close and the gloves but lets really not pay attention to any other part of the uniform such as helmets or facemasks or shoes.

That's what I gathered from this.

Now I KNOW it is hard to keep up with college uniforms as it seems now everyone is making a change or addition every week each year.

That said, there are helmets and facemasks and shoes that have been missing for multiple years and new stuff coming out each year, it would be nice to see them somewhat catch up here.

Kane... Ur talking to deaf ears. They still havent even put in the revo 2bar facemask that practically every qb wears. Its ridiculous how madden has it but not ncaa

[DorianDonP]

Re: NCAA Football 14 Presentation Video with Ben Haumiller Introduces Skills Trainer

I would venture to guess that any equipment worn on the torso, arms, or head takes precedence over shoes in football games because those are far more visible. There are never any close-up shots of players' feet in football like there is in soccer, and the culture around shoes in basketball has no corollary in football. Comparatively speaking, the gloves close-up shot is almost iconic in college football nowadays.

Further, from a gameplay perspective, the game is played from a far-zoom perspective, so any art changes to shoes are less likely to be noticed compared to changes to helmets and jerseys. The resources of the art team are allocated where the most return is possible.

My point is that Tiburon doesn't just decide stuff willy-nilly. There is a reason for lack of art emphasis on shoes. You don't have to like it, but to say that Tiburon doesn't know what they are doing because they don't allow a plethora of shoe options ignores the realities of the situation of making a licensed football video game. Resources are limited, and return must be maximized; shoes simply don't yield high return aesthetically in a football context.

Thing is, they spend time on gloves, which you don't really see until replays and cutscenes. So why not spend time on cleats, when they are shown just as much as the gloves, in cutscenes and replays?

There might be a reason for it, but it doesn't mean it's a good reason to not update what's already there but just outdated.