NCAA Football 14 Presentation Video with Ben Haumiller Introduces Skills Trainer
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What is even more bothersome and frustrating about them adding new gloves and undershirts is that they added that stuff when no one really asked for it.
Cleats and facemasks have been a GameChanger topic now since it has been up and Ben even said he knows how much we complain about cleats. So they are hearing our wants/complaints and STILL ignoring the fact. This has been going on for over 4 years now. We ask for them and want them and they just don't listen. It makes no sense
Sure the gloves are cool but the ONLY time you will see the inside of the glove is during a repetitive cut scene after a big play. You see cleats and facemasks during gameplay and on every replay.Comment
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I would venture to guess that any equipment worn on the torso, arms, or head takes precedence over shoes in football games because those are far more visible. There are never any close-up shots of players' feet in football like there is in soccer, and the culture around shoes in basketball has no corollary in football. Comparatively speaking, the gloves close-up shot is almost iconic in college football nowadays.
Further, from a gameplay perspective, the game is played from a far-zoom perspective, so any art changes to shoes are less likely to be noticed compared to changes to helmets and jerseys. The resources of the art team are allocated where the most return is possible.
My point is that Tiburon doesn't just decide stuff willy-nilly. There is a reason for lack of art emphasis on shoes. You don't have to like it, but to say that Tiburon doesn't know what they are doing because they don't allow a plethora of shoe options ignores the realities of the situation of making a licensed football video game. Resources are limited, and return must be maximized; shoes simply don't yield high return aesthetically in a football context.
Part of the reason i stopped using my Teambuilder team was because we don't even get the type of cleats they already have in the game, we get the old plain black or white cleats.
Putting an O on the gloves is something you only see in a cutscene that half of the people probably skip over after seeing it for the 5th time. Cleats are something you do notice on every snap because you see player's feet every play. You might not notice them much anymore because your so used to what we have but again, go back to when we had no colors on the cleats and you'll notice the difference.
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See here is the thing though, you aren't adding more options and needing more room to free up to add and create any new items, you are literally editing the old oudated equipment and turning them into current shoes with different artwork.
This is not all that time consuming, trust me I was there when they put in the Underarmour shoes and the like into Madden, it was not a big task.http://twitter.com/sageinfinite
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The fact that there is a faction within the EA football community passionate about all areas of equipment but seemingly no persons at Tiburon representative of that faction, in positions on the art team or where ever to effect it, is indicative of this entire gen. This entire gen we have been given games that while I truly believe the workers at Tiburon work hard on, don't come across like they poured their heart and soul into them. That is of course not a prerequisite for any job, that you be passionate about what you do but it reflects in the final product.Comment
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All I could do was shake my head on that part of Kane's post and hope stuff like that doesn't carry over to the new consoles. I know Ben stated in one of those videos that he doesn't work on the new console games at all, which has me hopeful that there is a completely different team, with a fresh perspective, working on those games. I honestly think many of these guys that have been working on EA football games for years, can't see the forest for trees at this point and the games need fresh people with "new eyes".
The fact that there is a faction within the EA football community passionate about all areas of equipment but seemingly no persons at Tiburon representative of that faction, in positions on the art team or where ever to effect it, is indicative of this entire gen. This entire gen we have been given games that while I truly believe the workers at Tiburon work hard on, don't come across like they poured their heart and soul into them. That is of course not a prerequisite for any job, that you be passionate about what you do but it reflects in the final product.http://twitter.com/sageinfinite
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Anyone else wonder if this is all we will here from EA regarding equipment this year? Another year of no revspeed 2 bar mask.... Why.... Why did I become a roster editor"Statistics always remind me of a fellow who drowned in a river where the average depth was three feet." -Woody HayesComment
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See here is the thing though, you aren't adding more options and needing more room to free up to add and create any new items, you are literally editing the old oudated equipment and turning them into current shoes with different artwork.
This is not all that time consuming, trust me I was there when they put in the Underarmour shoes and the like into Madden, it was not a big task.Comment
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I think it just further illustrates how out of whack their priorities are when they are so giddy about adding logos on gloves so people will see a cutscene of guys putting their hands together. People have been asking for a specific facemask for years and they know it but continue to ignore. These are the same people who got giddy because they added windsocks. I'll throw it out there that they don't know what they're doing because by having such out of whack priorities where they think the logo on a pair of gloves that very few ask for should be a priority over cleats or facemasks that are actually on the GameChanger page they supposedly look it, it shows to me that they just don't get it and try to do the easiest, most minor thing. And keep in mind, we're talking accessories/art department here so I don't want to hear anyone come in and say "who cares about shoes/this isn't dress up/gameplay is all that matters," and any of those other stupid things people say as soon as people talk about accessories.
Seeing Ben in a video already annoys me because every year we see him in videos and podcasts getting all giddy about something that never delivers so the last thing I want is to listen to what he has to say, but it pisses me off when he's actually bragging about the fact that they added an O to the Oregon gloves so that when there's a cutscene you'll see the guy put his hands together.
So they added a total of 2 things to update the look of players? A so called "Base layer" which is essentially new undershirts, saying "base layer" just makes it sound more important and like it's something completely new than just saying we added new undershirts. They say base layer as if we ever see these guys without pads.
What's amazing is they don't realize if they added and said we added 5 new Nike Cleats, 5 new Adidas cleats, 5 new Under Armour cleats, that people would get a lot more excited than we added logos to the gloves so that when there's a cutscene where guys put their hands together (which we hope you still watch after the 3rd time), you'll see the logo. Not only that, it would allow you to add some variety to the guys so that not every player is wearing 1 of 2 cleats, both of which are an old style.
Adding a bunch of new cleats would make it appear like they actually did work on the player models and accessories whereas adding a "base layer" (aka new undershirts) and logos on gloves makes it look like they found the smallest, most minor and easiest thing to update while not really adding much.Comment
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Okay, so this really disappointed me, when I read skills trainer, I was thinking it was sort of like assistant coaches for dynasty where you focused on a style during that week for practice or during a game when a change of quarter, or timeout you focused on something during that time out to increase the skills of your team for the next quarter/rest of the series, or next game during dynasty.Comment
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Okay, so this really disappointed me, when I read skills trainer, I was thinking it was sort of like assistant coaches for dynasty where you focused on a style during that week for practice or during a game when a change of quarter, or timeout you focused on something during that time out to increase the skills of your team for the next quarter/rest of the series, or next game during dynasty.I bleed Garnet and Gold. In The 'Slim Reaper' We Trust. Go Noles!Comment
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I like how Ben stated that the huge upgrade was base layers and gloves and that they have made no mention of having upgraded the helmets or face masks. From what I have seen in the photos they have just recycled all of the helmets and face masks from 13. Which is frustrating, because the helmets and face masks they had and still have are out of date or missing. A number of face masks were not designed correctly and there there are a number that are still missing from the game.
I hate how they try to preach Authenticity, but they have not gotten better in this area at all over the past 3 years.
They still have some of the same out of date helmets and face masks from NCAA football 10 which is ridiculous.
Gloves and base layers are great and have been requested for some time now, but the helmets and face masks are just as important, because this area is evolving as well with regards to player safety.Comment
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Re: NCAA Football 14 Presentation Video with Ben Haumiller Introduces Skills Trainer
Okay, so this really disappointed me, when I read skills trainer, I was thinking it was sort of like assistant coaches for dynasty where you focused on a style during that week for practice or during a game when a change of quarter, or timeout you focused on something during that time out to increase the skills of your team for the next quarter/rest of the series, or next game during dynasty.Comment
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