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  • vrock627
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    • Jun 2011
    • 149

    #1

    why cant they make a CFB game with generic/random players?

    would it violate any rights then? they could just make generic players and let the community customize it if they want
  • WeFireThoseCannons
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    • Jul 2011
    • 403

    #2
    Re: why cant they make a CFB game with generic/random players?

    The schools are not giving permission to be in games. We would not have conferences like the Big 12, ACC, SEC, Big 10, Pac12, etc. I don't know about you but I would never play a college game with generic schools, conferences, and players.

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    • jello1717
      All Star
      • Feb 2006
      • 5715

      #3
      Re: why cant they make a CFB game with generic/random players?

      why cant they make a CFB game with generic/random players?
      Because it wouldn't sell at all.

      Yes there would be a handful of hardcore fans that would buy it, but there's absolutely no way anyone could make a profit off of a generic CFB game.
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      College #2: Michigan State Spartans (my alma mater)
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      • canesfins
        MVP
        • Jul 2012
        • 2412

        #4
        Re: why cant they make a CFB game with generic/random players?

        Originally posted by jello1717
        Because it wouldn't sell at all.

        Yes there would be a handful of hardcore fans that would buy it, but there's absolutely no way anyone could make a profit off of a generic CFB game.
        Exactly. I don't think I would even buy it and I love ncaa football. I rather just stick to 14.

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        • xcrushx
          Pro
          • Aug 2010
          • 541

          #5
          Re: why cant they make a CFB game with generic/random players?

          It might work on PC. I don't see it ever working on consoles.
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          MLB: Tampa Bay Rays, Washington Nationals
          NFL: Washington Redskins
          NHL: Washington Capitals

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          • Gambo187
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            • Aug 2003
            • 279

            #6
            Re: why cant they make a CFB game with generic/random players?

            I think the original point is not that the teams, conferences, etc are generic but rather the players only are generic.

            Basically every game you start randomly creates ratings and names based on the schools prestige and maybe play style.

            Had EA Sports gone this route instead of playing the "this isn't really Tebow" route there would never have been an issue.

            To be fair though EA was just doing what was common practice to get around the licensing issues.

            I think if a company changed the focus from the latest on field trend to an immersive game that focuses in the pride and pageantry of game day it would be a success.

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            • CJ10
              Banned
              • Jan 2013
              • 340

              #7
              Re: why cant they make a CFB game with generic/random players?

              Originally posted by jello1717
              Because it wouldn't sell at all.

              Yes there would be a handful of hardcore fans that would buy it, but there's absolutely no way anyone could make a profit off of a generic CFB game.
              I don't see what the big deal is. The players in the game now are basically generic anyways. I play with UGA right now and the only one that even remotely looks like their real life counter part is Murray. Where the game becomes "real" is from the roster makers that do all the edits.

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              • jello1717
                All Star
                • Feb 2006
                • 5715

                #8
                Re: why cant they make a CFB game with generic/random players?

                Originally posted by CJ10
                I don't see what the big deal is. The players in the game now are basically generic anyways. I play with UGA right now and the only one that even remotely looks like their real life counter part is Murray. Where the game becomes "real" is from the roster makers that do all the edits.
                I wasn't thinking about only generic players. I was thinking about with generic players/teams/conferences.
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                College #1: Michigan Wolverines
                College #2: Michigan State Spartans (my alma mater)
                College #3: North Carolina Tar Heels
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                • debauchlord
                  Rookie
                  • May 2004
                  • 293

                  #9
                  Re: why cant they make a CFB game with generic/random players?

                  Originally posted by Gambo187
                  I think the original point is not that the teams, conferences, etc are generic but rather the players only are generic.

                  Basically every game you start randomly creates ratings and names based on the schools prestige and maybe play style.

                  Had EA Sports gone this route instead of playing the "this isn't really Tebow" route there would never have been an issue.

                  To be fair though EA was just doing what was common practice to get around the licensing issues.

                  I think if a company changed the focus from the latest on field trend to an immersive game that focuses in the pride and pageantry of game day it would be a success.
                  People don't want to play as "Pennsylvania State Beavers". They want to be Penn State. The Nittany Lions. No generic football game ever made ever sold well (ok, fair, lets say since NES days). Licensing is key to success.

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                  • CJ10
                    Banned
                    • Jan 2013
                    • 340

                    #10
                    Re: why cant they make a CFB game with generic/random players?

                    Originally posted by jello1717
                    I wasn't thinking about only generic players. I was thinking about with generic players/teams/conferences.
                    That really shouldn't be an issue. For the most part all the schools give their consent to be used. The lawsuit was over "player likeness" being used in the game.

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                    • jello1717
                      All Star
                      • Feb 2006
                      • 5715

                      #11
                      Re: why cant they make a CFB game with generic/random players?

                      Originally posted by CJ10
                      That really shouldn't be an issue. For the most part all the schools give their consent to be used. The lawsuit was over "player likeness" being used in the game.
                      I know there's at least 4 conferences as well as the NCAA that couldn't be in it.

                      http://www.operationsports.com/forum...deo-games.html

                      And I'm pretty sure that I've heard of individual schools pulling out too. Perhaps that's wrong though.
                      Favorite Teams:
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                      College #2: Michigan State Spartans (my alma mater)
                      College #3: North Carolina Tar Heels
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                      • CJ10
                        Banned
                        • Jan 2013
                        • 340

                        #12
                        Re: why cant they make a CFB game with generic/random players?

                        Originally posted by jello1717
                        I know there's at least 4 conferences as well as the NCAA that couldn't be in it.

                        http://www.operationsports.com/forum...deo-games.html

                        And I'm pretty sure that I've heard of individual schools pulling out too. Perhaps that's wrong though.
                        ah ok, I didn't know about individual schools pulling out. the conferences, while disappointing, wouldn't be a huge deal. that would just have to deal with logos, championship trophies etc. all the stadiums and uniforms et all wouldn't be affected by that. now if the actual school pulls out that's a whole different story.

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                        • jello1717
                          All Star
                          • Feb 2006
                          • 5715

                          #13
                          Re: why cant they make a CFB game with generic/random players?

                          Originally posted by CJ10
                          ah ok, I didn't know about individual schools pulling out. the conferences, while disappointing, wouldn't be a huge deal. that would just have to deal with logos, championship trophies etc. all the stadiums and uniforms et all wouldn't be affected by that. now if the actual school pulls out that's a whole different story.
                          That's just hearsay though. I'm pretty sure that I've read that (and I wanna say Alabama was one school that was named) but I didn't look for proof so maybe I'm just pulling this out of my ***.
                          Favorite Teams:
                          College #1: Michigan Wolverines
                          College #2: Michigan State Spartans (my alma mater)
                          College #3: North Carolina Tar Heels
                          NHL: Detroit Redwings

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