Backwards Sliders

[PSUFreak083]

Forgive me if this has been asked before but I couldn’t find anything. Do we know what sliders are backwards in the game? I know pass coverage slider has been discussed but wasn’t sure about any of the other ones.

[Von Dozier]

Re: Backwards Sliders

There are no "backwards sliders."

[Kramer5150]

Re: Backwards Sliders

There are no "backwards sliders."

Really? you sure about that?

Then care to explain why my defense plays like an actual defense when I put the pass reaction and pass coverage @2? This is on Heisman difficulty.

When I was playing with higher values for those 2 sliders, I was in constant shootouts with teams that had absolutely no business keeping up with my Buckeye defense...

I'm talking teams like Akron and Western Michigan...all I know is what I've personally witnessed is that there is something definitely "wonky" with those 2 sliders.

I had mentioned these settings a while ago, and Gotmadskillz as well as Canes mentioned they also noticed a difference in how the defense played...to go a bit further, Canes said he tried it in practice mode and noticed the corners were as he expected, slow in reaction...BUT during gameplay is played out differently.

It makes absolutely no difference to me what some want to believe or not believe, but before you say there are "no backwards sliders"..make sure you are 100% sure about that, because based on what I have been using (with great success) you would be wrong.

[Playmakers]

Re: Backwards Sliders

Really? you sure about that?

Then care to explain why my defense plays like an actual defense when I put the pass reaction and pass coverage @2? This is on Heisman difficulty.

When I was playing with higher values for those 2 sliders, I was in constant shootouts with teams that had absolutely no business keeping up with my Buckeye defense...

I'm talking teams like Akron and Western Michigan...all I know is what I've personally witnessed is that there is something definitely "wonky" with those 2 sliders.

I had mentioned these settings a while ago, and Gotmadskillz as well as Canes mentioned they also noticed a difference in how the defense played...to go a bit further, Canes said he tried it in practice mode and noticed the corners were as he expected, slow in reaction...BUT during gameplay is played out differently.

It makes absolutely no difference to me what some want to believe or not believe, but before you say there are "no backwards sliders"..make sure you are 100% sure about that, because based on what I have been using (with great success) you would be wrong.

Heisman could have a different effect than lower level.

Ive seen some crazy things on heisman like wrs still having glue fingers even with catching way down to 25. It's possible on that level you can still get production even if you use the lower end of slider scale. Players may just play more organic the lower you decrease certain sliders.

They may not react as aggressive in coverage and just play their assignments more conservative.

Most of the Corners and safeties when looking at the ratings only bottom out at minimum of 70 man and zone coverage which is still pretty damn high if you ask me.

For example Aaron's top 4 corners each have over 70 man coverage, Zone coverage and Play Recognition. 4 Of Akron's corners have 70 Plus awareness. They have a SR SS who operates with 85 Awareness and 79 play Recognition.

I know for for sure reaction and coverage on both Varsity and AA levels work properly on the higher end of the slider scale.

The reason why we keep having these discussions as the OP asked is because EA themselves probably don't know what the hell their sliders do from one level to the next.

[Dazza1]

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Yeah I also don’t think any of the sliders are reversed in this game. I played with them all and as far as I can see they all work as advertised (which is a big surprise). I might be wrong but just my observations so far.


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[Mhurricane266]

Re: Backwards Sliders

Really? you sure about that?

Then care to explain why my defense plays like an actual defense when I put the pass reaction and pass coverage @2? This is on Heisman difficulty.

When I was playing with higher values for those 2 sliders, I was in constant shootouts with teams that had absolutely no business keeping up with my Buckeye defense...

I'm talking teams like Akron and Western Michigan...all I know is what I've personally witnessed is that there is something definitely "wonky" with those 2 sliders.

I had mentioned these settings a while ago, and Gotmadskillz as well as Canes mentioned they also noticed a difference in how the defense played...to go a bit further, Canes said he tried it in practice mode and noticed the corners were as he expected, slow in reaction...BUT during gameplay is played out differently.

It makes absolutely no difference to me what some want to believe or not believe, but before you say there are "no backwards sliders"..make sure you are 100% sure about that, because based on what I have been using (with great success) you would be wrong.

I 2nd this. After he made mention of this I dropped my sliders as such. Specifically, the reaction slider. Adjusting the reaction to 2 changed my whole trajectory and enjoyment of this game simply from having players react accordingly in a bunch of situations. As he stated, I'm not printing this on paper but this is just my experience and there is definitely smoke there.

[Kramer5150]

Re: Backwards Sliders

I know for for sure reaction and coverage on both Varsity and AA levels work properly on the higher end of the slider scale.

At this point I wouldn't say anything is "for sure"...I too was under the impression the higher you go, the better it would be, but during my observations this is simply not the case.

As I mentioned earlier...it doesn't matter to me what folks use, but I don't think I would go so far as to say anything is "for sure" when it comes down to EA and these sliders.

[canes21]

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As they said, not all are reversed, and I don't know if reversed is the proper word to use, but when I did some testing with coverage and reaction below 50 the results were very surprising.

There's a clear difference when adjusting from 50 coverage to say 90ish. You will see coverage get tighter.

The thing is, when moving from 50 to a value close to 0, coverage also was tighter when I tested it out.

I don't know if the curve is messed up and isn't on a 0-1 scale, so going back down to say 10 is actually giving you the opposite effect, but something was wonky when I looked at it after Kramer and others talked about what they saw.

I've not dedicated a ton of time to continue testing it since I've been happy with what I've seen with values over 50, but I can definitely say the gameplay I saw in values below 50 indicated things weren't working as expected.

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[Playmakers]

Re: Backwards Sliders

As they said, not all are reversed, and I don't know if reversed is the proper word to use, but when I did some testing with coverage and reaction below 50 the results were very surprising.

There's a clear difference when adjusting from 50 coverage to say 90ish. You will see coverage get tighter.

The thing is, when moving from 50 to a value close to 0, coverage also was tighter when I tested it out.

I don't know if the curve is messed up and isn't on a 0-1 scale, so going back down to say 10 is actually giving you the opposite effect, but something was wonky when I looked at it after Kramer and others talked about what they saw.

I've not dedicated a ton of time to continue testing it since I've been happy with what I've seen with values over 50, but I can definitely say the gameplay I saw in values below 50 indicated things weren't working as expected.

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I'll have to give this a test in CPU vs CPU testing

You can really see if that works via that type of gameplay because you watch and observe everything as it plays out.

[mcavner]

Re: Backwards Sliders

Thanks for this discussion. I was wondering about this as well and I'm pretty convinced that the pass reaction slider is reversed.

When I moved the cpu pass reaction to 100 I had a lot more space in those tight throwing windows and the curl patterns. Also made some difference on screens, and play action.

I've played about 6 or 7 seasons on dynasty at varsity with the pass defense all the way down for the cpu and I've been just sweating every time I pass, working really hard to keep my % at 65 and having to use screens and rpo's to keep decent stats. I've also had my own pass defense sliders at 100 and been getting pretty well ripped most of the time.

Not positive on pass coverage, didn't see the same dramatic result with pass coverage, but I moved that slider after pass reaction and haven't tested it on its own.

I'm moving forward from here with the idea that pass reaction is reversed.

[BadAssHskr]

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After my game last night, I started thinking something was a bit wonky. Was surprised to come here today, to see this thread.

I usually try to keep my sliders at default across the board, but the way AA seems to play this year, I started messing with them, while still trying to keep things balanced as possible, and messing with as few of the as possible, I ended up with this set:

HUM/CPU
RunBlock 60/52
PRT 60/50
INT 35/35
Coverage 60/50

I had slowly of worked myself to these numbers just based on what I was struggling with and also taking into consideration that I should be blowing out some teams, struggling with others, and getting beat up by the top tier teams.

I guess I started noticing last night, each game I've been playing keeps getting harder for me to compete in (Im Using Nebraska). Games are still close, but I played my 3rd game of season 2, and have been beat by Akron, was basically blown out by Cincinnati, and barely beat my home opener UL Monroe.

I kept thinking if I just adjust this, It's going to put me in the sweet spot, but each time the game became more difficult.

Anyhow, didn't make the connection that something might be backward, until yesterday when I bumped my RB up to 60, because I absolutely couldn't run the ball. And just like clock work, I ended the game, against Akron with about -17 rushing for the game, meanwhile the CPU with slider setting at 52, put up about 187 on me.

I don't see where anyone mentioned RB being backward, but the computer is just torching me in the passing game.

So you guys are turning the PRT and coverage sliders to 2, and this is fixing some stuff? I haven't looked yet, but is there a slider set to look at regarding this issue?

Just thinking now that Default AA might net me better results. It's that or dropping to Varsity, and giving that a run, however not crazy about fixing varsity with sliders if we're not sure what has an issue.

[JayD]

Re: Backwards Sliders

No, sliders are not backwards. Asked and answered.

[mcavner]

Re: Backwards Sliders

No, sliders are not backwards. Asked and answered.

I reject your reality and substitute my own.

[Playmakers]

Re: Backwards Sliders

After my game last night, I started thinking something was a bit wonky. Was surprised to come here today, to see this thread.

I usually try to keep my sliders at default across the board, but the way AA seems to play this year, I started messing with them, while still trying to keep things balanced as possible, and messing with as few of the as possible, I ended up with this set:

HUM/CPU
RunBlock 60/52
PRT 60/50
INT 35/35
Coverage 60/50

I had slowly of worked myself to these numbers just based on what I was struggling with and also taking into consideration that I should be blowing out some teams, struggling with others, and getting beat up by the top tier teams.

I guess I started noticing last night, each game I've been playing keeps getting harder for me to compete in (Im Using Nebraska). Games are still close, but I played my 3rd game of season 2, and have been beat by Akron, was basically blown out by Cincinnati, and barely beat my home opener UL Monroe.

I kept thinking if I just adjust this, It's going to put me in the sweet spot, but each time the game became more difficult.

Anyhow, didn't make the connection that something might be backward, until yesterday when I bumped my RB up to 60, because I absolutely couldn't run the ball. And just like clock work, I ended the game, against Akron with about -17 rushing for the game, meanwhile the CPU with slider setting at 52, put up about 187 on me.

I don't see where anyone mentioned RB being backward, but the computer is just torching me in the passing game.

So you guys are turning the PRT and coverage sliders to 2, and this is fixing some stuff? I haven't looked yet, but is there a slider set to look at regarding this issue?

Just thinking now that Default AA might net me better results. It's that or dropping to Varsity, and giving that a run, however not crazy about fixing varsity with sliders if we're not sure what has an issue.

I'm not going to debate if anything is backwards

But I had to drop run block all the way down to the 0-5 range just to slow down my running game.

This was on varsity, AA and Heisman level.

Anything above that and the USER OL based on my time with the game seems to open up massive running lanes.

vice versa when I play the CPU they can't run block worth a damn unless I increase their blocking slider.

So I personally don't think the blocking sliders fall under any backwards effect....

But hey that's just my opinion

[Ram209]

Re: Backwards Sliders

After my game last night, I started thinking something was a bit wonky. Was surprised to come here today, to see this thread.

I usually try to keep my sliders at default across the board, but the way AA seems to play this year, I started messing with them, while still trying to keep things balanced as possible, and messing with as few of the as possible, I ended up with this set:

HUM/CPU
RunBlock 60/52
PRT 60/50
INT 35/35
Coverage 60/50

I had slowly of worked myself to these numbers just based on what I was struggling with and also taking into consideration that I should be blowing out some teams, struggling with others, and getting beat up by the top tier teams.

I guess I started noticing last night, each game I've been playing keeps getting harder for me to compete in (Im Using Nebraska). Games are still close, but I played my 3rd game of season 2, and have been beat by Akron, was basically blown out by Cincinnati, and barely beat my home opener UL Monroe.

I kept thinking if I just adjust this, It's going to put me in the sweet spot, but each time the game became more difficult.

Anyhow, didn't make the connection that something might be backward, until yesterday when I bumped my RB up to 60, because I absolutely couldn't run the ball. And just like clock work, I ended the game, against Akron with about -17 rushing for the game, meanwhile the CPU with slider setting at 52, put up about 187 on me.

I don't see where anyone mentioned RB being backward, but the computer is just torching me in the passing game.

So you guys are turning the PRT and coverage sliders to 2, and this is fixing some stuff? I haven't looked yet, but is there a slider set to look at regarding this issue?

Just thinking now that Default AA might net me better results. It's that or dropping to Varsity, and giving that a run, however not crazy about fixing varsity with sliders if we're not sure what has an issue.

As a fellow Husker fan I will answer this for you... In my Husker dynasty I was getting torched through the air with BOTH of my pass sliders at 100. Came here read about this and moved both down to 2 and I pretty much shut down UCLA my next game, could be placebo need more testing but I can tell you it SEEMED like my DBS were covering better. But like I said more testing needs to be done this was on Heisman with a everything at 50 expect QB accuracy for both teams at 15