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  • ZekeRoberts
    Pro
    • Dec 2004
    • 595

    #1

    Are there sliders that would fix lack of fumbles and being #1 in Rush D?

    These are the two things that I just can't seem to "deal with" when I look at an otherwise very enjoyable NCAA Football video game this year.

    I would think that lowering RB ability might cause more fumbles, but...

    4 years into my dynasty and whether I'm in the MAC or the Big Ten I have a top 5 ranked run D every year. And that's on 10-minute quarters. My pass D averages around 100-110th in the nation and honestly I don't think i'm that good at rush D and that bad at pass D, in either playcalling or on the sticks.

    So it occurs to me that maybe just editing all the coaches' sliders to encourage more runs would create less pass attempts and more rush attempts, and then maybe I'd see more fumbles? I'd rather not do that, but if that's the answer then I guess I will, but I also don't want to have to do that for every new coach in dynasty.

    I'm definitely not going to lower a bunch of CAR ratings for offensive players (and partly because there would be a lot of this with the WR recruits when they come in with 90s for CAR rating)
    Those who stay will be champions 〽️
  • prettylittlesmiles
    Rookie
    • Oct 2012
    • 150

    #2
    Re: Are there sliders that would fix lack of fumbles and being #1 in Rush D?

    http://www.operationsports.com/forum...ncaa-14-a.html

    I am not promising you fumbles, but if you set your strip to aggressive you have a better chance.

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    • skundy
      Rookie
      • Sep 2007
      • 479

      #3
      Re: Are there sliders that would fix lack of fumbles and being #1 in Rush D?

      Not much that can be done about the fumbles my friend.

      I can help you with being #1 in rush defense. Lower user tackle and up cpu running ability, I recommend 25 for tackle and 90 for rba. Or you could just plug my set in and go from there.

      In year 2, with Ole Miss having a 95 ovr defense I gave up over 200 yds rushing in numerous game, I gave up 300 in one game and I'm a defensive guy. I haven't finished in the top 10 of rushing defense for two years straight now. I'm hoping that will change in year 3 with a much stronger front 7.

      http://www.operationsports.com/forum...n-sliders.html

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      • ZekeRoberts
        Pro
        • Dec 2004
        • 595

        #4
        Re: Are there sliders that would fix lack of fumbles and being #1 in Rush D?

        Skundy if you see this:

        How do you see the CPU gain that many yards? Is it a broken-tackle fest, or are they leaving jock straps all over the field with juke and spin moves?
        Those who stay will be champions 〽️

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        • skundy
          Rookie
          • Sep 2007
          • 479

          #5
          Re: Are there sliders that would fix lack of fumbles and being #1 in Rush D?

          Its a variety really. I haven't once felt that I was being cheated by the amount of broken tackles. The cpu just runs with a lot more authority than default.

          I've had the smaller/shiftier backs juke me out of my shoes and I've had the bruisers run with a more smash mouth style. Got burnt bad with the read option by some of the faster qb's too. The games I gave up a lot of yards the cpu ran the ball 30+ times.

          In year 3 now that I've built up my front 7 I'm not giving up as many yards on the ground but the cpu still runs with authority. I just gave up 159 yds to Vandy on 24 carries. Currently, 4 games in, my rush defense is ranked 11th, giving up 112 yds a game. I haven't played any good run teams though. I've played Memphis, Tenn, Florida, Vandy. I held Florida to 92 yds on 29 carries but that's because they were passing a lot in the 2nd playing catch up.

          Also to note my defense forced 2 fumbles in my last game against Vandy, it didn't happen a lot in the first 2 years but maybe it will happen more often this year with my stouter defense. I've posted the results of 2 seasons in my thread you can see the stats for yourself.
          Last edited by skundy; 09-22-2013, 10:23 PM.

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          -Know your opponent-you win 50% of the time.
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          • aerovt
            Rookie
            • Oct 2009
            • 308

            #6
            Re: Are there sliders that would fix lack of fumbles and being #1 in Rush D?

            With sliders, the only way I ever get the ai to put up decent rushing numbers is if I boost their stats until they average 8+ yds/att which is a bit ridiculous. The ai just doesnt like running the football which is quite frustrating as it makes defense so predictable.

            The only way I've found to fix this is to edit the coach I'm about to play to make them favor the run quite a bit more. After the game, I just set them back to where they were before so the sim results dont get more messed up than normal.

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            • skundy
              Rookie
              • Sep 2007
              • 479

              #7
              Re: Are there sliders that would fix lack of fumbles and being #1 in Rush D?

              I would have to disagree with you aerovt. With my set (user tckl 25, cpu RBA 90) the cpu runs with authority but is not overpowering. I have not touched any of the coaching sliders except the substitution.

              I went back and looked at my stats from games I posted and the highest ypc that I saw was 7.2. That was against Auburn and it was rough, they put up 382 on the ground on 53 carries. Only game that has happened too.

              The cpu won't run the ball if they can't have at least some success with it. Unless of course you are playing a pass heavy team.

              -Know yourself-you win 50% of the time.
              -Know your opponent-you win 50% of the time.
              -Know yourself and your opponent- 100%Pwng
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              • JrueToTheGame
                Banned
                • May 2013
                • 623

                #8
                Re: Are there sliders that would fix lack of fumbles and being #1 in Rush D?

                You will not be #1 in Rush D if you use my sliders lol promise you that.

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                • HazzDiddy
                  Rookie
                  • Jun 2009
                  • 17

                  #9
                  Re: Are there sliders that would fix lack of fumbles and being #1 in Rush D?

                  Originally posted by prettylittlesmiles
                  http://www.operationsports.com/forum...ncaa-14-a.html

                  I am not promising you fumbles, but if you set your strip to aggressive you have a better chance.
                  I am having trouble finding the strip setting. Can someone tell me where this is located?

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                  • EAGLESFAN10
                    MVP
                    • Nov 2011
                    • 2338

                    #10
                    Re: Are there sliders that would fix lack of fumbles and being #1 in Rush D?

                    I use Skundy's sliders and sliders have nothing to do with defensive rankings

                    Its all about taking away your opponents strengths first and foremost then start attacking their weakness

                    I'm in Year 1 of my Michigan Dynasty 7-1(4-0 in the Big10)

                    My defensive Ranks
                    4th in Total points allowed(14.1)
                    6th in total yards per game(272.3)
                    22nd in passing yards allowed(160.8)
                    7th in rushing yards allowed(111.5)

                    Before EVERY game I look at the other teams players stats and then I determine who I need to focus on then once their out the picture I can start focusing on everything else

                    Like my next game is against is against Nebraska and my main focus will be stopping their run game

                    Nebraska
                    10th in Rushing yards per game(257.3)

                    Michigan
                    7th in Rushing yards allowed(111.5)

                    My Main Focus will be stopping:
                    Imani Cross(978 yards rushing/5 yards a carry/11TD) and Taylor Martinez(643 yards rushing/5.6 yards a carry/10TD)

                    IMO sliders have like a 4% impact on where you get ranked defensively

                    If you take the time to look at the other teams players and stats and make the proper adjustments then you should be good


                    As for fumbles its a win/lose situation

                    I've only forced 6 fumbles this season not worried about it because I'm second in the Nation in INT's with (18) so I'm causing turnovers either way

                    I might be the only one that uses practice mode but it helps me out at times like with Nebraska being my next game I'm to do alot of running/spread option plays on offense and Blitz plays to the outside on defense I just love using strategies ... it helps
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                    • EAGLESFAN10
                      MVP
                      • Nov 2011
                      • 2338

                      #11
                      Re: Are there sliders that would fix lack of fumbles and being #1 in Rush D?

                      Originally posted by ZekeRoberts
                      These are the two things that I just can't seem to "deal with" when I look at an otherwise very enjoyable NCAA Football video game this year.

                      I would think that lowering RB ability might cause more fumbles, but...

                      4 years into my dynasty and whether I'm in the MAC or the Big Ten I have a top 5 ranked run D every year. And that's on 10-minute quarters. My pass D averages around 100-110th in the nation and honestly I don't think i'm that good at rush D and that bad at pass D, in either playcalling or on the sticks.

                      So it occurs to me that maybe just editing all the coaches' sliders to encourage more runs would create less pass attempts and more rush attempts, and then maybe I'd see more fumbles? I'd rather not do that, but if that's the answer then I guess I will, but I also don't want to have to do that for every new coach in dynasty.

                      I'm definitely not going to lower a bunch of CAR ratings for offensive players (and partly because there would be a lot of this with the WR recruits when they come in with 90s for CAR rating)
                      also being one of the top run defenses in the Nation is good thing no matter the conference
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                      • RedSoxFox7
                        Banned
                        • Mar 2004
                        • 252

                        #12
                        Re: Are there sliders that would fix lack of fumbles and being #1 in Rush D?

                        Originally posted by aerovt
                        With sliders, the only way I ever get the ai to put up decent rushing numbers is if I boost their stats until they average 8+ yds/att which is a bit ridiculous. The ai just doesnt like running the football which is quite frustrating as it makes defense so predictable.

                        The only way I've found to fix this is to edit the coach I'm about to play to make them favor the run quite a bit more. After the game, I just set them back to where they were before so the sim results dont get more messed up than normal.
                        I'm having the same issues, though I haven't gone in to edit the opposing coaches at all.

                        I'm using UMass, these sliders, and 7 minute quarters.

                        Even if my opponent has some early success with the run, they'll often abandon it very quickly, and if they don't have early success they're definitely not going to keep rushing it. Looking at my current season (2014), the only team that's stuck with the run was BC and their RB was averaging 6.5 YPC (totaled 130 for the game). Penn State had 10 total rushes, including QB sacks - realistically they had 6 rushes versus 40 pass plays. A few other teams had RB with YPC around 4.5 and only ran it maybe 10 times.

                        I know playing 7 minute quarters is going to keep my defense slightly overrated, but it's a bit ridiculous how little the CPU even tries to run the ball.

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                        • RedSoxFox7
                          Banned
                          • Mar 2004
                          • 252

                          #13
                          Re: Are there sliders that would fix lack of fumbles and being #1 in Rush D?

                          Originally posted by EAGLESFAN10
                          I use Skundy's sliders and sliders have nothing to do with defensive rankings

                          Its all about taking away your opponents strengths first and foremost then start attacking their weakness

                          I'm in Year 1 of my Michigan Dynasty 7-1(4-0 in the Big10)

                          My defensive Ranks
                          4th in Total points allowed(14.1)
                          6th in total yards per game(272.3)
                          22nd in passing yards allowed(160.8)
                          7th in rushing yards allowed(111.5)

                          Before EVERY game I look at the other teams players stats and then I determine who I need to focus on then once their out the picture I can start focusing on everything else

                          Like my next game is against is against Nebraska and my main focus will be stopping their run game

                          Nebraska
                          10th in Rushing yards per game(257.3)

                          Michigan
                          7th in Rushing yards allowed(111.5)

                          My Main Focus will be stopping:
                          Imani Cross(978 yards rushing/5 yards a carry/11TD) and Taylor Martinez(643 yards rushing/5.6 yards a carry/10TD)

                          IMO sliders have like a 4% impact on where you get ranked defensively

                          If you take the time to look at the other teams players and stats and make the proper adjustments then you should be good


                          As for fumbles its a win/lose situation

                          I've only forced 6 fumbles this season not worried about it because I'm second in the Nation in INT's with (18) so I'm causing turnovers either way

                          I might be the only one that uses practice mode but it helps me out at times like with Nebraska being my next game I'm to do alot of running/spread option plays on offense and Blitz plays to the outside on defense I just love using strategies ... it helps
                          Originally posted by EAGLESFAN10
                          also being one of the top run defenses in the Nation is good thing no matter the conference
                          You're misunderstanding the problem here.

                          It's not a good thing to have the top run D when you're using a middling team, it's not realistic. We're not looking for tips on how to get a better D, just playing on a lower difficulty will do that. We're actually looking to adjust it so the run D numbers are more realistic, without throwing everything else out of whack.

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                          • EAGLESFAN10
                            MVP
                            • Nov 2011
                            • 2338

                            #14
                            Re: Are there sliders that would fix lack of fumbles and being #1 in Rush D?

                            Originally posted by RedSoxFox7
                            You're misunderstanding the problem here.

                            It's not a good thing to have the top run D when you're using a middling team, it's not realistic. We're not looking for tips on how to get a better D, just playing on a lower difficulty will do that. We're actually looking to adjust it so the run D numbers are more realistic, without throwing everything else out of whack.
                            Ok my bad I must have read the op wrong .... That's my fault
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                            • skundy
                              Rookie
                              • Sep 2007
                              • 479

                              #15
                              Re: Are there sliders that would fix lack of fumbles and being #1 in Rush D?

                              I just finished year 3. I finished #2 in rush defense, 120 yds a game. I feel much better about that than say giving up less than 60 rushing yds a game which is what you would see on default. The first 2 years I was in the 20's for rush d. I focused on beefing up my DT's and LB's and I attribute my recent success in stopping the run to that.

                              Along with my offense being better and being able to go on longer, more sustainable drives that give me an early lead so that the computer abandons the run and plays catch up with the pass.
                              Last edited by skundy; 09-27-2013, 12:47 PM.

                              -Know yourself-you win 50% of the time.
                              -Know your opponent-you win 50% of the time.
                              -Know yourself and your opponent- 100%Pwng
                              The Art of War- Sun Tzu


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