50(ish) Threshold-based Slider Set for NCAA 14

[jp18]

Re: 50(ish) Threshold-based Slider Set for NCAA 14

Week 3 UCLA vs New Mexico. I only scheduled them because i don't think I have ever playedthem. I know what ooffense they run but geesh didn't know they had so much skill in the run game. I actually had to go back to the dvr and watch them. They played this game about like they play in real life....I will never schedule them i don't particularly enjoy trying to stop a navy option game out of the pistol. The heavy formations really did a number when I was caught in nickel. I did manage to adjust after being down 28-14 at half and scored 28 unanswered points.

Ucla/NM

Score 42 - 28
Fds 26 - 16
Rushing 44-231 2tds - 38-247 2tds
Passing 20/31-261 4tds 1int - 13/23-165 2tds
Total 75-492 - 61-412
Turnovers 1 - 0
Sacks 1 - 2 ( I just couldn't catch Jordan talk about athlete)

[JoshC1977]

Re: 50(ish) Threshold-based Slider Set for NCAA 14

I'd kill for those stats man! Can't wait to get back to that balance. I hold every team to under 100 rushing. Get torched through the air. I'm just wondering if being a coordinator throws some of these sliders out the window? When I was HC I was getting those sexy, balanced stats.



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It is entirely possible that being a coordinator throws the slider balance. We know that the user and CPU sliders play off of one another, it is possible that if the game were to use the CPU settings for the simmed side of the ball, that it could impact the other side. But, I have never played as a coordinator, so this is highly speculative. It might be possible though to design an experiment to see if the sliders are being used in the same manner for coordinator play.

[jp18]

Re: 50(ish) Threshold-based Slider Set for NCAA 14

Just to mess around I jacked up my HC & OC's run/pass balance to all the way up to running the ball. And while they still passed the ball 50 times out of a pro offense, (????) this is the best my defense has looked all year. I actually was in the game going into 4th. So I'm wondering if there's a correlation between my defense's success, and the run/pass slide on offense? Could be coincidence. Just food for thought.


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Was this using coach mode or ask coach in playcalling. Ga St is more of a passing team but that seems off to have run/pass ratio set to 15/85 and still throw 50 times. Was your team forced to throw being down or were pass plays just always called?

[jp18]

Re: 50(ish) Threshold-based Slider Set for NCAA 14

Finished up week 4 in the UCLA dynasty decided to take a peak at sim stats...interesting that the aggression has a big impact on them.

31 teams are averaging 425 yards or more (has never happened)
8 teams at the moment are averaging 525 with Osu at 568 and Tcu 566
33 teams are averaging at least 35 ppg
11 teams are averaging 45+ ppg
46 teams are averaging 200+ rushing and passing
9 teams averaging over 300 passing Isu 408 Tcu 386 wsu 384 txs tech 381

The low end defenses have 10 teams giving up 475+ ypg 30ppg
Good defenses give up 350-375 ypg 20ppg
Elite defenses give up 250-330 ypg 7-17 ppg

16 teams in the top 25 are still undefeated all are power 5 conference teams.
The rest have 1 loss except Lsu who has 2 (TCU Auburn)
The only upset would be Texas beating Ole Miss which I may or may not be an upset, the only game that had an unranked team beat a highly ranked team.
Fcs schools are a combined 4-81 with the wins coming over S. Alabama, Tulane, Uconn, and Troy.

[jp18]

Re: 50(ish) Threshold-based Slider Set for NCAA 14

Finished up the first pac-12 conference game. Traveled to Utah and completely laid an egg. All my yards were garbage time yards. One thing in particular that is starting to bug me. The user qb acc at 5. Games like this where no matter what I do the ball sails all over the place and isn't close to the wr. It was much worse in this game where I couldn't complete a 3 yard hitch. I know all about warming up the qb and such I was 9/23 mid 3rd quarter so I went as far as calling screen after screen after screen yet anything over 5 yards was way off. I had several chances to make it a game down 23-3 but 3ints on 3 consecutive passes had me rather frustrated. I would like to think it was due to a fr qb, but I remember playing with Kiel who is much better and had this same problem while throwing 9 picks. I may not be the best passer out there but it felt like I was destined to lose.

Ucla/Utah

Score 10 - 23
Fds 16 - 16
Rushing 25-55 - 47-179 1td
Passing 25/54-223 1td 3ints - 23/32-248 1td 1int
Total 79-278 - 79-427
Turnovers 4 - 1
Sacks 1 - 7

I contributed to the sacks by not wanting to make any tight window throws. I may try acc at 10 even though I fear it will be to easy. Or maybe I should have pulled Rosen after passes started flying all over.

[jp18]

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UCLA/Cal

Score 34 - 37
Fds 27 - 21
Rushing 39-191 3tds - 34-190 1td
Passing 29/47-296 1td 1int - 23/31-385
Total 86-487 - 65-575

Well I am out of awnsers to come up with a win against a quality team. Lost on the last play via hailmary in which my best corner decided to act like a moron run right by the wr out of tge back of the endzone. This means 0-2 in two conference games which means I am virtually eliminated already at a 3 game disadvantage.

Side note.....the more I play I think the tougher it is getting. I really believe the coach skills on my team are putting me at a severe disadvantage, can't stop a nosebleed on defense and offense I struggle with any kind of consistency!

[JoshC1977]

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Finished up the first pac-12 conference game. Traveled to Utah and completely laid an egg. All my yards were garbage time yards. One thing in particular that is starting to bug me. The user qb acc at 5. Games like this where no matter what I do the ball sails all over the place and isn't close to the wr. It was much worse in this game where I couldn't complete a 3 yard hitch. I know all about warming up the qb and such I was 9/23 mid 3rd quarter so I went as far as calling screen after screen after screen yet anything over 5 yards was way off. I had several chances to make it a game down 23-3 but 3ints on 3 consecutive passes had me rather frustrated. I would like to think it was due to a fr qb, but I remember playing with Kiel who is much better and had this same problem while throwing 9 picks. I may not be the best passer out there but it felt like I was destined to lose.

Ucla/Utah

Score 10 - 23
Fds 16 - 16
Rushing 25-55 - 47-179 1td
Passing 25/54-223 1td 3ints - 23/32-248 1td 1int
Total 79-278 - 79-427
Turnovers 4 - 1
Sacks 1 - 7

I contributed to the sacks by not wanting to make any tight window throws. I may try acc at 10 even though I fear it will be to easy. Or maybe I should have pulled Rosen after passes started flying all over.

One thing that makes me curious is whether or not awareness is a factor in the "ball sailing" issue. One OSer mentioned that he liked lowering Kicker awareness for his guy as it sometimes impacted if he'd miss kicks. I'm pretty sure that awareness, to a degree, serves as a modifier for how results play out (if you play RPG's, it'd be like a "luck" modifier). Obviously, jacking up his awareness to make him more playable wouldn't exactly be sim, but it might provide some explanation which would allow one to make roster decisions.....

[jp18]

Re: 50(ish) Threshold-based Slider Set for NCAA 14

One thing that makes me curious is whether or not awareness is a factor in the "ball sailing" issue. One OSer mentioned that he liked lowering Kicker awareness for his guy as it sometimes impacted if he'd miss kicks. I'm pretty sure that awareness, to a degree, serves as a modifier for how results play out (if you play RPG's, it'd be like a "luck" modifier). Obviously, jacking up his awareness to make him more playable wouldn't exactly be sim, but it might provide some explanation which would allow one to make roster decisions.....

That may very well be a part of it....right now I think I got his awareness up to around 80....I think its more with the hc and oc in the coach skills I played around with some qbs that had fairly low attributes but the coach skills were high it was much much easier to make throws. That tells me as a head coach I just need to work to get those skills instead of changing those ratings. The coach skills definitions on what they boost I think are extremely misleading imo after playing with those poor teams with high coach skills give more boost than the +3 here and there than whats said. Its not nearly as noticeable when skills are even, beings I really like to work for it I always use to start at zero, I would say no matter what your teams ratings are one would lose a significant amount of games with this set. For me after testing it out I don't have a problem with that usually I was always striving for tougher games its perfect right where its at. I always would refuse to play as a powerhouse team just because of the ease, well with skills low it wouldn't be a problem.....guess I'll have to fire up the Buckeyes and try it out, although I would sure hate to lose with them.

[Von Dozier]

Re: 50(ish) Threshold-based Slider Set for NCAA 14

Wow... one thing I recommend never doing, as I just experienced it, is setting the CPU QB's strength anywhere above 70. That ball rockets the hell out..

[BlackRain37]

Re: 50(ish) Threshold-based Slider Set for NCAA 14

Once sliders are settled, how much can progression in Coach Skill trees throw the sliders off? Anyone paid attention to this yet?

[jp18]

Re: 50(ish) Threshold-based Slider Set for NCAA 14

Once sliders are settled, how much can progression in Coach Skill trees throw the sliders off? Anyone paid attention to this yet?

I wouldn't say they throw them off as long as the skills are somewhat balanced to begin with. Now if you were to create a coach and start with 0-5 on all your coaches skill tree it does make it much tougher to compete until your team gets some skill points. Playing weaker teams you can still blow them out, but against good teams with good coaches it provides some tough games.

[jp18]

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After starting several dynasties only to play a few weeks and keep changing teams I thought the heck with it Ohio State it is I always end up with them anyway. I just figured it would be to easy as they are already dominate unfortunately I was wrong.

Osu/Va Tech

Score 21 - 29
Fds 14 - 16
Rushing 45-238 2tds - 31-123 2tds
Passing 13/21-180 1td 2ints - 21/32-298 1td
Total 418 - 421
Turnovers 2 - 0

Needless to say thay d is stout and 1 blown coverage cost me the game along with 2 tipped ints. Not a good omen for week 1.

[JoshC1977]

Re: 50(ish) Threshold-based Slider Set for NCAA 14

After starting several dynasties only to play a few weeks and keep changing teams I thought the heck with it Ohio State it is I always end up with them anyway. I just figured it would be to easy as they are already dominate unfortunately I was wrong.

Osu/Va Tech

Score 21 - 29
Fds 14 - 16
Rushing 45-238 2tds - 31-123 2tds
Passing 13/21-180 1td 2ints - 21/32-298 1td
Total 418 - 421
Turnovers 2 - 0

Needless to say thay d is stout and 1 blown coverage cost me the game along with 2 tipped ints. Not a good omen for week 1.

Ok....I really hate that result....something is clearly wrong with the sliders....lol.

Question: you create a coach or stick with urban?

[jp18]

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Ok....I really hate that result....something is clearly wrong with the sliders....lol.

Question: you create a coach or stick with urban?

I created a coach, wish now I wouldn't have. I did start the new coach at 10 skill points but I wasn't very bright and put it all to recruiting since I put it on the slowest progression. I dropped the coordinators just a little since I felt they were just a little high, I think it was only 5 skill points which maybe made a little difference.

Basically I lost on defense with the pass d I ran a lot of 4-2-5 with having Lee in as the 3rd lb much as they do in real life. The issue was playing him at that ss spot his awareness took a big hit and he was lost, I should have switched his position. Next couple of games ill be closely watching zone coverage not sure what it is yet but it bugs me with guys not playing there zones. I did rebound to beat E. Michigan since I couldn't get Hawaii 52-10, still have up about 250 through the air mainly zone. I don't mind giving up that kind of yardage when a reciever is somewhat covered but constantly standing wide open is a different story.

[jp18]

Re: 50(ish) Threshold-based Slider Set for NCAA 14

Ahh ha, just looking at the settings I see I must've bumped pass block up to 55, could this be the culprit of zone coverage being so bad? It is the only setting that has been different from the 50 in all the dynasties that I have started and zone coverage wasn't nearly as ineffective as it is now.