Players in the game with no good card

[miz468]

Re: Players in the game with no good card

Mendenhall did have a better average on what I can assume was behind a worst o-line and team during those 4 years.

Playing against worse defenses.

[Orange Krush]

Re: Players in the game with no good card

Mendenhall only had that one good year. If I remember correctly it didn't even matter because we got killed in the rose bowl.

[cardinalbird5]

Re: Players in the game with no good card

Yeah he really only started for 1 year though. I am not saying he is better. I'd take McFadden anyday, but whoever pulled out the stats kind of made more of a case for Mendenhall. No one cares about raw statistics. You could be a 4 year starter at some school like UCF and break records. That doesn't mean your one of the top players.

[McG]

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SEC v Big-10 Defenses. I would say that is why McFadden is the better RB. That and one was drafted in the top 5 and the other was end of the 1st round. One is a speed back and the other is a power back. They are completely different RBs in my opinion.

[cardinalbird5]

Re: Players in the game with no good card

Big 10 defense wasn't that bad...a 6.5 YPG is pretty darn good. I wasn't the one to pull out the stats though. I don't really care about either player. I was just saying it wasn't a strong argument to just put out raw stats. Maybe saying McFadden was drafted a lot higher or something would have been better.

[BonesKnows85]

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Tyrod Taylor should be Gold? Not in a million years.

I hear it's your opinion, I have one too. Both of Florida's QBs are gold. Tebow a 93, which should be much higher and Grossman an 89, who should be around a 92 or 93.

[BobjumpA]

Re: Players in the game with no good card

SEC v Big-10 Defenses. I would say that is why McFadden is the better RB. That and one was drafted in the top 5 and the other was end of the 1st round. One is a speed back and the other is a power back. They are completely different RBs in my opinion.

Because the sec is a great top to bottom conference right?

[freernnur5]

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Just gonna post the adjusted defensive rankings of each team they played from 2007 and the stats from the 2007 season for each as it was their final season:

Mendenhall - 262 carries, 1681 yards, 6.4 YPC, 17 TDs
Missouri - 35
Western Illinois - not DI
Syracuse - 95
Indiana - 86
Penn State - 48
Wisconsin - 57
Iowa - 40
Michigan - 11
Ball State - 93
Minnesota - 106
Ohio State - 14
Northwestern - 91
USC - 2
Average defensive ranking - 56.5

McFadden - 325 carries, 1830 yards, 5.6 YPC, 16 TDs
Troy - 38
Alabama - 21
Kentucky - 41
North Texas - 103
Chattanooga - not DI
Auburn - 5
Ole Miss - 63
Florida International - 80
South Carolina - 33
Tennessee - 37
Mississippi State - 19
LSU - 6
Missouri - 35
Average defensive ranking - 40.1

Common opponent (Missouri):
Mendenhall - 11 carries, 33 yards, 2 TDs
McFadden - 21 carries, 105 yards, 1 TD

Against top 3 defenses (average rank - 9):
Mendenhall
USC - 17 carries, 155 yards, 1 TD
Michigan - 18 carries, 85 yards, 0 TD
Ohio State - 26 carries, 88 yards, 0 TD
Average - 20.3 carries, 109.3 yards, 5.4 YPC, .3 TDs

Against top 3 defenses (average rank - 10):
McFadden
Auburn - 17 carries, 43 yards, 0 TD
LSU - 32 carries, 206 yards, 3 TDs
Mississippi State - 28 carries, 88 yards, 0 TD
Average - 25.6 carries, 112.3 yards, 4.4 YPC, 1 TD

I would still argue McFadden is the better player, but anyone not giving Mendenhall the respect he deserves is wrong. These stats show they are actually a lot closer than people would realize/like to admit.