Competitive vs Sim - From the games I've played, COMP gives you a better game

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  • RyanLeaf16
    MVP
    • Dec 2007
    • 1002

    #1

    Competitive vs Sim - From the games I've played, COMP gives you a better game

    I know, I know "Witch, burn the witch" is what many will say, but I decided to try it for about a half dozen games, but I'm telling you, MY USER D is better on competitive than on simulation. I played the exact same matchup twice on three different occasions. Cowboys/Eagles, Jets/Bucs, Bills/Ravens. Each time I played on matchup on sim and one on competitive. Each time, the game on competitive was a better score in terms of realism and in terms of overall stats. All games played on AM default - no slider adjustments.

    My first Cowboys/Eagles game was 21-10 at the end of the first quarter on SIM. It was 3-3 at the end of the first quarter on COMP. Jets/Bucs final score on SIM was 44-36. Final score on COMP 27-13. Bills and Ravens was insane on SIM. Final score was 49-42, no punting and ridiculous CPU QB completion percentage. On COMP the final was 30-27.

    I feel that SIM is possibly having players play to their ratings, but not in an organic way, so we get weird/funk results. On SIM I had Vita Vea getting stiff-armed by Braelon Allen - and I'm not talking about the mash the "A" button stiff-arm where you fight off a tackle. I'm literally talking about Vea getting his a$$ planted and falling back on contact against Braelon Allen. I didn't see the BS on COMP at all. Could Vea miss the tackle, stumble, slip, get blindside blocked, etc? Of course that can happen, he can even get in a leverage situation with a RB, I can believe that, but he's not getting planted coming full speed at a RB and just falling down.

    Another example is on COMP, I had Dak Prescott at 65 yards passing at halftime and he was under 70 percent completion percentage. In Bills/Ravens, it was like an arcade game on SIM. It's almost like the ratings can be too overpowered or completely useless on each end of the spectrum. We talk about how sliders for gameplay and penalties are "reversed", I'm starting to wonder if the gameplay modes are too. People can disagree with this, YMMV, but I am seeing MUCH better results on COMP mode, so that is where I'm going to be playing my franchise for the time being once the Week 1 rosters start. I'm not trying to convince or convert anyone, I just felt like I should share b/c I found it pretty interesting how I was getting a much better experience moving away from the SIM setting.
  • therizing02
    MVP
    • Apr 2003
    • 4176

    #2
    I think you may be on to something here. I've never done anything like this and I refuse to go down the slider hell hole. So, why not?

    ALL Madden and ALL Sliders at DEFAULT. Played 1 half of a game as the Broncos against the Steelers. Rodgers was 5 for 12 for 66 yards. Sacked one time and tried to hit Metcalf on a go route that I broke up. He was also forced to throw the ball away 3 or 4 times. They were also 14/12 on run/pass ratio (I ran 41 plays in the half with Den.) and Warren had 60 yards on 10 carries. I'm going to run a few franchise games to see of there are any differences there. The game also seemed, I don't know, less sloppy and jerky from an animation standpoint. I'll keep playing.

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    • MizzouRah
      All Star
      • Jul 2002
      • 8528

      #3
      I've played on comp for quite some time and I agree, it gives you a much better game. It's like EA doesn't do any tweaking to simulation mode anymore and spends all their time tweaking competitive.

      Thanks for the heads up, I haven't started my CFM yet as I like to wait on a patch or two and the 53 man opening night rosters, but I'll continue to play on comp again this season it looks like.

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      • Spudbox65
        Rookie
        • Aug 2021
        • 200

        #4
        Any injuries or penalties on COMP?

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        • Jagsfan24
          MVP
          • Mar 2016
          • 1855

          #5
          I played on competitive a few years ago, I do think there’s some positives there for sure but I also think there were negatives such as no penalties being called or injuries but maybe it’s different now.

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          • WiiMaster
            Rookie
            • Nov 2022
            • 232

            #6
            Sim gets tweaks. But comp mode tends to get them first and they trickle down to sim later.

            Another thing many don't realize is that they have been slowly working to remove the distinctions between the modes. There are many aspects of the comp mode vs sim mode tuning that are actually shared between the two starting in M25. These parts used to be separated but they are getting merged together.

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            • RyanLeaf16
              MVP
              • Dec 2007
              • 1002

              #7
              Originally posted by Spudbox65
              Any injuries or penalties on COMP?
              So I don't remember any injuries, but oddly enough a W&T graphic did pop-up for Saquon. It showed areas of his body in yellow/red, but the left side of the graphic was blank...so I think it was just a glitch. Gameplay wise, things were much better, but the lack of injuries & W&T might kill the immersion for some.

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              • MizzouRah
                All Star
                • Jul 2002
                • 8528

                #8
                There were definitely injuries and penalties in M24, I didn't play M25 much at all. I always 'default' the sliders to 50, this includes injuries.

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                • Gosens6
                  All Star
                  • Oct 2007
                  • 6098

                  #9
                  Yep, this has been something people have figured out this year. Bengal himself said it in his video yesterday. Comp seems to be the way to go for sim players

                  this game is so *** backwards lol

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                  • delspf
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                    Wouldn't surprise me if they have this reversed and don't even realize it
                • RyanLeaf16
                  MVP
                  • Dec 2007
                  • 1002

                  #10
                  Originally posted by Gosens6
                  Yep, this has been something people have figured out this year. Bengal himself said it in his video yesterday. Comp seems to be the way to go for sim players

                  this game is so *** backwards lol
                  I haven't even seen his newest ep, was this for his Saint franchise?

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                  • WeAreAllKings
                    Pro
                    • Dec 2016
                    • 570

                    #11
                    Are you setting the game style to competitive in both main menu and franchise? I’ve had it at simulation in main menu and competitive in franchise. Not sure if that makes a difference or not 🤔


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                    • RyanLeaf16
                      MVP
                      • Dec 2007
                      • 1002

                      #12
                      Originally posted by WeAreAllKings
                      Are you setting the game style to competitive in both main menu and franchise? I’ve had it at simulation in main menu and competitive in franchise. Not sure if that makes a difference or not 🤔


                      Sent from my iPhone using Operation Sports
                      I've only tested this in exhibition mode. I haven't tested it in franchise, so it was only set in the main menu settings for me.

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                      • WeAreAllKings
                        Pro
                        • Dec 2016
                        • 570

                        #13
                        Originally posted by RyanLeaf16

                        I've only tested this in exhibition mode. I haven't tested it in franchise, so it was only set in the main menu settings for me.
                        Gotcha 👍🏻 It does seem to work in franchise as well. I tested this same theory out a couple of Madden cycles ago just to get different gameplay. Simulation does not seem very sim anymore for whatever reason.


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                        • Fiddy
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                          • Jul 2002
                          • 12651

                          #14
                          Played a few last night on Comp in my Jets Franchise and the game for sure played much better. I have had so many wide open high scoring games on Sim that made me wonder if I was set to Arcade. I also saw penalties and injuries, something that was lacking for me on Sim.
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                          • kzdwfy
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                            • Jun 2003
                            • 754

                            #15
                            Ill try today. Are yoo seeing misfires by the CPU snd HUM QB?

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