Madden NFL 25 Title Update #3 Details, Available Now For PS4 and Xbox One

[Moegames]

Re: Madden NFL 25 Patch Released (PS4, Xbox One)

I wasn't on your case at all. As you can imagine though, there is a lot of hyperbole when it comes to people's feedback because everyone plays the game differently. People then tend to believe that their isolated experience is the consensus of the whole. I'm not saying you have or are doing that, but that is why I say statements like "typical Tiburon" or whatever followed by "SMH" don't really do any good and sort of fall into trolly sounding behavior.

I haven't been a CM for Madden for as long as you've probably been writing about it, so please don't assume that because you wrote something on an OS blog that everyone has seen it. I am very interested in your opinions and feedback and would be glad to check it out.

I won't patronize you -- as I never want to do -- but it seems a little unfair to scold me for offering to deliver your feedback only to be told you don't want to hear that.

truth! - well said!

[jada855]

I am crossing fingers that this update fixes the bulky and regular ankle tape broken graphics issue!

[jaynral]

I will if you guys will listen...

CBs do not look for the ball. Too many times they have good coverage but are lookinng wrong way and have no awareness to where the ball is. That's not right for CBs with good awareness and etc.

If a MLB nails a little WR on a slant. He should drop it.

Their needs to be secondary awareness. It needs adjusted, that would fix most issues. If they played the ball and put a hand out to swat it or keep WR from making the catch. They should get in position to make a swatted ball rather than mirror the WR route and just be in the way

I totally agree, the knockouts is what kinda kept QB completion to some standard...Now every QB is going to have plus 80%...I think the problem is that Madden simply does not have alot of different animations. its either 1-4 outcomes and thats it....Thats terrible and now is offensive, boring but offense and high scores sells games...whatever!.....I do say this, this next madden on Xbox1/PS4 will tell alot for the future..Will it be the best madden ever with every detail covered or the same BS..we will see

[jaynral]

Can we also fix the pursuit angles? I mean outside runs are ridiculous.. When a lb or safety stops and just let's the dude go by him something is wrong.


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This a MAJOR problem because running outside is the HARDEST play to do in the NFL....

[BlackBetty15]

Re: Madden NFL 25 Title Update #3 Details, Available Now For PS4 and Xbox One

The problem I fear isnt you EASPORTS_AJ. The problem is your boss or madden lead designer. I believe you have the best intentions by far brother, heck I would buy you a beer any day. (Good beer too, not the barbaric beer young kids subject their palates too these days!) However your boss takes it into his hands on what HE feels should be added and coded into the game and that is compete poop. I think somewhere on this forum we had a MOD leave OS to be in NCAA or something like that. (incorrect, no mod left to work on Madden) I think his name was. After he was let go he went into GREAT detail as did Ian Cummings on how your boss ruins this game to make it more mainstream which is bad business. I am not saying he owes us anything. The guy gets paid to make a football game...period. Whether good or bad the result is always gonna be ,"if it nets EA a solid profit in the millions, who cares if its actually a great football product" Now you dont have to say anything AJ...I am not asking you to. I play this game because its fun and in some ways it immerses me into being a GM quite nicely. However to say your boss cares about football and madden to the point he wants that reflected in the Madden series is completely not true.

1.Penalties - I haven't seen penalties accuratley portrayed in YEARS! Like going on 7 years. OFF/DEF PI is non existent as is intentional grounding, late hits, horse collar ext...You guys have had ample time and yet still.
2. Special Teams - Punt Blocks and field goal blocks? How about high snaps and miskicks? Field goals are not hard what so ever and its kinda sad special teams arent even a tense situation.
3. Mistakes - True over/under throws, bad snaps, high over-the-head snaps out of shotgun, and noise created mistakes with bad routes and what not...again not even a issue. Ask denver and SF if its an issue playing seattle.
4. WR/DB interaction- no real interaction happens and has NEVER happened. There is not actual deflection like sherman against crabtree, or even a true battle going on. I dont know if you guys just dont know how to do it, or you have fat people mocaping this but its totally a bad experience as it stands right now.
5. CCM - As an owner I cant fire coaches mid season, edit draft classes, or even have the option of having Def/Off/ST coordinators. I do like what you guys ahve and I realize its year one so this year is a freebie, but just so you guys know whats expected!
6. Sliders - This frustrates the masses as some sliders are simply broken and or cause other sliders to freaking go bonkers. Some are backwards!!!! LOL Really?

Like I said I play this game out of enjoyment. But your boss is sadly mistaken if he puts his head down at night and says madden plays a wonderful game of SIM football. The lack of penalties and the WR/DB interaction REALLY make me mad sometimes. But as I said AJ, I have to believe there are people on the Madden staff that KNOW these are issues and want these fixed. Your boss is the problem however.

[charter04]

Re: Madden NFL 25 Title Update #3 Details, Available Now For PS4 and Xbox One

I've actually played the game since the patch so this is not just guessing like some are doing. Lol the game play good to me. I actually saw more swats by the DB's. Int's weren't a problem. CPU had one. I had two. One was a bad read. The other was cause by a wrong button push.

I don't have trouble stoping out side runs but, the lbs need to do a better job in pursuit.

[charter04]

Re: Madden NFL 25 Title Update #3 Details, Available Now For PS4 and Xbox One

The problem I fear isnt you EASPORTS_AJ. The problem is your boss or madden lead designer. I believe you have the best intentions by far brother, heck I would buy you a beer any day. (Good beer too, not the barbaric beer young kids subject their palates too these days!) However your boss takes it into his hands on what HE feels should be added and coded into the game and that is compete poop. I think somewhere on this forum we had a MOD leave OS to be in NCAA or something like that. (incorrect, no mod left to work on Madden) I think his name was. After he was let go he went into GREAT detail as did Ian Cummings on how your boss ruins this game to make it more mainstream which is bad business. I am not saying he owes us anything. The guy gets paid to make a football game...period. Whether good or bad the result is always gonna be ,"if it nets EA a solid profit in the millions, who cares if its actually a great football product" Now you dont have to say anything AJ...I am not asking you to. I play this game because its fun and in some ways it immerses me into being a GM quite nicely. However to say your boss cares about football and madden to the point he wants that reflected in the Madden series is completely not true.

1.Penalties - I haven't seen penalties accuratley portrayed in YEARS! Like going on 7 years. OFF/DEF PI is non existent as is intentional grounding, late hits, horse collar ext...You guys have had ample time and yet still.
2. Special Teams - Punt Blocks and field goal blocks? How about high snaps and miskicks? Field goals are not hard what so ever and its kinda sad special teams arent even a tense situation.
3. Mistakes - True over/under throws, bad snaps, high over-the-head snaps out of shotgun, and noise created mistakes with bad routes and what not...again not even a issue. Ask denver and SF if its an issue playing seattle.
4. WR/DB interaction- no real interaction happens and has NEVER happened. There is not actual deflection like sherman against crabtree, or even a true battle going on. I dont know if you guys just dont know how to do it, or you have fat people mocaping this but its totally a bad experience as it stands right now.
5. CCM - As an owner I cant fire coaches mid season, edit draft classes, or even have the option of having Def/Off/ST coordinators. I do like what you guys ahve and I realize its year one so this year is a freebie, but just so you guys know whats expected!
6. Sliders - This frustrates the masses as some sliders are simply broken and or cause other sliders to freaking go bonkers. Some are backwards!!!! LOL Really?

Like I said I play this game out of enjoyment. But your boss is sadly mistaken if he puts his head down at night and says madden plays a wonderful game of SIM football. The lack of penalties and the WR/DB interaction REALLY make me mad sometimes. But as I said AJ, I have to believe there are people on the Madden staff that KNOW these are issues and want these fixed. Your boss is the problem however.

Great, great post. I feel the same way. The problem is the lobby/tournament guys don't want this stuff. Those prima guide guys just want to play "Madden ball" instead of real football.

There should be an option to play sim or tourney style. Sim could have all the same stuff you mention and tourney style could be like madden is now. Win win.

Also have online matches that are sim style too. How hard could it be to do that?

[Step2001]

Re: Madden NFL 25 Title Update #3 Details, Available Now For PS4 and Xbox One

Great, great post. I feel the same way. The problem is the lobby/tournament guys don't want this stuff. Those prima guide guys just want to play "Madden ball" instead of real football.

There should be an option to play sim or tourney style. Sim could have all the same stuff you mention and tourney style could be like madden is now. Win win.

Also have online matches that are sim style too. How hard could it be to do that?

So true, read on here a few months ago that errant snaps or botched FG holds aren't in the game because of Tourney play. They don't want those real life miscues messing up someone chances at winning Madden Tourney.
Then if that's the case, they should just have a mode where they're no penalties or miscues based on a players ratings. They can use this mode for their Tourney's.


Special Teams and carrying/paying really good long snapper & FG kicker should come into play.

[dat boi Q]

Great, great post. I feel the same way. The problem is the lobby/tournament guys don't want this stuff. Those prima guide guys just want to play "Madden ball" instead of real football.

There should be an option to play sim or tourney style. Sim could have all the same stuff you mention and tourney style could be like madden is now. Win win.

Also have online matches that are sim style too. How hard could it be to do that?

When 80% of the gamechangers are tourney style non sim ball players what kind if game do we think we are going to get. EA brings in guys who don't watch real football just highlights. They want to run the score, go for it on 4th and long run 3 to 5 plays all game and use a.i exploits to win. These are the guys in EAs ear giving them feedback. Just fix the sliders and make them sensitive so we can make them work for us. No one is bashing madden, remember it ain't bashing if the statement is true. I play the game everyday, but I don't play online just my cfm. I tried to play one UT game until I realized it was on pro.

[N51_rob]

Re: Madden NFL 25 Title Update #3 Details, Available Now For PS4 and Xbox One

So true, read on here a few months ago that errant snaps or botched FG holds aren't in the game because of Tourney play. They don't want those real life miscues messing up someone chances at winning Madden Tourney.
Then if that's the case, they should just have a mode where they're no penalties or miscues based on a players ratings. They can use this mode for their Tourney's.


Special Teams and carrying/paying really good long snapper & FG kicker should come into play.

This x1000. Three modes, casual, tourney and sim, sliders for EVERYTHING (a la 2K). I have to imagine someone at EA has to have said the same thing.


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[kpkpkp]

Re: Madden NFL 25 Title Update #3 Details, Available Now For PS4 and Xbox One

I would love to see some of the things mentioned implemented. Especially things like a sim/tourney mode that can be turned on or off.

I think it would help, I hate how botched snaps or FG blocks never happen.

Also other things like people said...

--Better WR/DB interaction.
--fix penalties, like pass interference, so they finally work.
--fix the wind arrow, it's been backwards on FG/XP's for YEARS now.
--fix winning %'s. An 8-7-1 team and 8-8-0 team should not both have a .500 winning percentage. The 8-7-1 team should be .531... It seems ties are not properly factored in when playing Madden.
--Playoff seeding and tiebreakers have been messed up for years. Please make this mirror NFL rules. For example, wild cards should NEVER get home field adv. over a division winner, just because the wild card had a better season record in a different division.
--Fix the AI for offline franchise mode so CPU teams actually use practice each week and earn XP from it. As a Human team I can practice every week and get tons of extra XP for my starters and bench players, however CPU teams NEVER do practices. This stunts the growth of CPU teams and CPU bench players big time.
--And finally, for the love of God and all that is holy...PLEASE give us detailed explanations of difficulty AND penalty sliders. Guys like Charter04 will love it.

[gman2774]

Re: Madden NFL 25 Title Update #3 Details, Available Now For PS4 and Xbox One

Played a game on default all pro post patch and I thought the game felt much improved. Could be placebo and I'm not the kind of player that dissects every movement but it felt different for the positive. I was pleased. We'll see if it holds up. One thing I noticed was running was tougher. Seemed the corners and safety were very aggressive in stopping the outside run. Keep in mind I'm not that great and default all pro is a challenging level for me. Playing with the Browns. Also noticed pass coverage seemed weaker specifically against curl and hook routes.

[Artman22]

Re: Madden NFL 25 Title Update #3 Details, Available Now For PS4 and Xbox One

This x1000. Three modes, casual, tourney and sim, sliders for EVERYTHING (a la 2K). I have to imagine someone at EA has to have said the same thing.


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This is a great idea.


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[GiantBlue76]

Re: Madden NFL 25 Title Update #3 Details, Available Now For PS4 and Xbox One

This x1000. Three modes, casual, tourney and sim, sliders for EVERYTHING (a la 2K). I have to imagine someone at EA has to have said the same thing.


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This has been discussed and mentioned for YEARS here and at other places. The problem is that when you don't have "another" game that has all of that, then there is no reason to invest the "extra" time to code it up and implement it. Regardless of what we've been told, there is no way a full dev cycle of work is put into most areas of this game. Changes are so small and so slow, that there is no way someone actually worked 6 months on it, never mind spent TWO dev cycles on it. I remember hearing about how the commentary and audio was going to blow us away. This Was told to us in Madden 12 when the commentary was awful. Nothing changed in 13, then 25 came out and it was still pretty bad.

The bottom line is, every other game has separate settings to separate the play styles. This is not something that should be all that difficult to do. Also, how hard would it be to allow CFM rosters to be used in unranked games? How about creating communities that are built into CFMs. A CFM is essentially that - an online community. Guys should be able to scrimmage each other using their league rosters. Why would this be hard to do? You can already import a roster to use, it should be stupid simple.

Anyway, this is supposed to be a football game that replicates the NFL. If you are not going to allow people to play football instead of "madden" then you are not making an NFL football game.

I've said it 1000 times before and I will say it again. Tourney guys will play and buy madden no matter what just because it's "madden". It's the hardcore football players that have stopped buying it. I've never been as much of a "madden head" as I am a football head. I liked all of the other games dating back to the early 80s. However, guys I know who didn't even want to try 2k stopped buying Madden about 4 years ago. They just forgot about it too. The game went from being an NFL Football game to being a game loosely based on the NFL instead.

[RumbleCard]

Re: Madden NFL 25 Title Update #3 Details, Available Now For PS4 and Xbox One

Hell one simple thing that would be nice is the ability to set my formations. Having to sub my backup HB in while I'm selecting my play is way too cumbersome.

When I run 4 WR's I like to have my receiving back in the game. I shouldn't have to manually do this from the play calling screen.

But if I do, it would be nice if it didn't default back after each game. I admit I was half hoping this patch would at least make these changes permanent from game to game.

For the life of me I can't understand why don't have a substitution screen.