Colin Kaepernick Will Be the Only Player in Madden NFL 15 with Tattoos

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  • IndyColts2
    Banned
    • Mar 2009
    • 570

    #76
    Y'all are really bit**ing about why they only have one players tattoos? Honestly? The fact that we now know they actually WANT to bring AUTHENTIC tattoos back should make everyone frickin scream and shout in excitement. This is why EA debs left this site lmao.

    @djordan ... just stop.

    1. This isn't one of EA's halfassed efforts for once in our lifetime.. It isn't possible for it to be one, for the fact that Kaep is the ONLY person who cared to get this done in time for the game. And it also obviously isn't halfassed because they got every one of his tattoos that are visible during a game in.....

    2. Why in the world would you rather wait another season for something like tattoos to be put in? Its not like its a new physics system that they built and midway said "ya know what? we can save this for next season" and stopped.. Tattoos are basically like new equipment being added in.. Did you complain when they added in only 4 DNA helmets or were you happy that you had new helmets to choose from??

    GROW. UP.

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    • kehlis
      Moderator
      • Jul 2008
      • 27738

      #77
      Re: Colin Kaepernick Will Be the Only Player in Madden NFL 15 with Tattoos

      Originally posted by JKSportsGamer1984
      So what I take from this is that we should blame Ricky Williams for the cause of all of this? Had he not sued then the NFL would've never put this policy in place & we would've had tattoos in the game all along?
      You're take is very incorrect.

      They got sued because of tattoos on Ricky Williams. Not by Ricky Williams.

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      • SnakeEyez
        Rookie
        • Aug 2002
        • 353

        #78
        I agree with the quotes before me citing that if they can't get most or all of the tattoo "licensing" in... then just leave them out altogether. It's lame... but again EA doesn't care... their marketing dept. surely was handing out chest bumps and high fives from the net chatter Kaep's tat's created.
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        • VTHokie525
          Pro
          • Jul 2011
          • 512

          #79
          So you're telling me 2k gets the permission from all of the players tattoo artists?

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          • mestevo
            Gooney Goo Goo
            • Apr 2010
            • 19556

            #80
            Re: Colin Kaepernick Will Be the Only Player in Madden NFL 15 with Tattoos

            Originally posted by VTHokie525
            So you're telling me 2k gets the permission from all of the players tattoo artists?
            There could be something involved with the licensing of those players that addresses it or 2k is simply taking a risk on regards to tattoos.

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            • RipCityAndy
              Rookie
              • Nov 2012
              • 249

              #81
              Re: Colin Kaepernick Will Be the Only Player in Madden NFL 15 with Tattoos

              @VTHokie525

              Three options:

              1. Yes, for all original tattoos.
              2. No, and the players either a) already have permission from their tattoo artists or b) own the IP themselves (see my previous post).
              3. No, and they are liable for damages to the Copyright owner (see my previous post).

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              • Iceman87GT
                MVP
                • Jan 2010
                • 1739

                #82
                Re: Colin Kaepernick Will Be the Only Player in Madden NFL 15 with Tattoos

                I don't get the all or nothing argument for tattoos... You know what's more awkward than 1 player having tattoos and everyone else not? When a player with full sleeves like Kaepernick doesn't have any tattoos.

                I can name 2 players who have tattoos that throw me off when I see them in Madden without them: Kaepernick, and Tom Crabtree (currently a Free Agent).

                I am perfectly fine with Kaepernick being the only guy with Tattoos this year, and I don't think it will take me out of the moment if I were to see his represented and then everyone else with bare arms (because again I couldn't tell you what any other players' tattoos look like, or which players on the 9ers that have tattoos). I couldn't tell you who on my favorite team (the Packers) has tattoos, I know plenty of players do, but I couldn't single them out, or tell you what they look like (we haven't had a guy with sleeves since we opted not to re-sign Crabtree), nor could I tell you who on the Falcons does(local team, which means its who I watch whenever the Packers aren't playing in the same time-slot).

                I hope they have generic tattoos for other players until they can secure the actual tattoo rights, but even if they don't I could care less.

                I don't get why people are getting mad at EA/Madden for including the only player they have rights to. I mean Kaepernick spent the money to secure the rights for this express purpose and now you are advocating that EA ignore that because you think it would look awkward if he was properly represented in the game?

                Lighten up! EA has actually stepper their game up (at least in the graphics department, hopefully in the gameplay as well), and you are getting angry about it?! They just can't win with some people.
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                • SmashMan
                  All Star
                  • Dec 2004
                  • 9686

                  #83
                  Re: Colin Kaepernick Will Be the Only Player in Madden NFL 15 with Tattoos

                  The (lack of?) reading comprehension is amazing to me. NBA2K has nothing to do with this. Neither does EA UFC, WWE, or any other sport with video game tattoos because we don't know how their specific companies and/or player unions have contracts structured.

                  We now know that the NFLPA has told the players to get their tattoo artists to sign off on having the tattoos reproduced before they will be in video games. That's it. It's on the player to get this issue taken care of if they choose to.

                  Maybe the Players Association needs to be more informative with the players about this, but in the meantime maybe people should tweet at their favorite players to ask if they can talk to their artists?

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                  • JKSportsGamer1984
                    MVP
                    • May 2014
                    • 1411

                    #84
                    Re: Colin Kaepernick Will Be the Only Player in Madden NFL 15 with Tattoos

                    Originally posted by IndyColts2
                    Y'all are really bit**ing about why they only have one players tattoos? Honestly? The fact that we now know they actually WANT to bring AUTHENTIC tattoos back should make everyone frickin scream and shout in excitement. This is why EA debs left this site lmao.

                    @djordan ... just stop.

                    1. This isn't one of EA's halfassed efforts for once in our lifetime.. It isn't possible for it to be one, for the fact that Kaep is the ONLY person who cared to get this done in time for the game. And it also obviously isn't halfassed because they got every one of his tattoos that are visible during a game in.....

                    2. Why in the world would you rather wait another season for something like tattoos to be put in? Its not like its a new physics system that they built and midway said "ya know what? we can save this for next season" and stopped.. Tattoos are basically like new equipment being added in.. Did you complain when they added in only 4 DNA helmets or were you happy that you had new helmets to choose from??

                    GROW. UP.
                    Says the guy who says "we're all bit**ing"? So someone who doesn't share the same opinion as you is bit**ing but we're the ones who need to grow up? Gotcha.....

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                    • RipCityAndy
                      Rookie
                      • Nov 2012
                      • 249

                      #85
                      Re: Colin Kaepernick Will Be the Only Player in Madden NFL 15 with Tattoos

                      Originally posted by SmashMan
                      The (lack of?) reading comprehension is amazing to me. NBA2K has nothing to do with this. Neither does EA UFC, WWE, or any other sport with video game tattoos because we don't know how their specific companies and/or player unions have contracts structured.

                      We now know that the NFLPA has told the players to get their tattoo artists to sign off on having the tattoos reproduced before they will be in video games. That's it. It's on the player to get this issue taken care of if they choose to.

                      Maybe the Players Association needs to be more informative with the players about this, but in the meantime maybe people should tweet at their favorite players to ask if they can talk to their artists?
                      Hey SmashMan. You're correct. We don't know anything about any of the other companies/unions (other than the NFLPA). The whole "tattoo as a copyright" issue is, however, still governed by the Copyright Act.

                      Your point is well taken - the direction the different games chose to proceed is based on business judgment.

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                      • DeuceDouglas
                        Madden Dev Team
                        • Apr 2010
                        • 4297

                        #86
                        Re: Colin Kaepernick Will Be the Only Player in Madden NFL 15 with Tattoos

                        Originally posted by Iceman87GT
                        I don't get the all or nothing argument for tattoos... You know what's more awkward than 1 player having tattoos and everyone else not? When a player with full sleeves like Kaepernick doesn't have any tattoos.
                        Or having like 100 players with tattoos so virtually every game has one or two guys with tattoos and the rest without. I mean, we're talking about almost 3000 players in the NFL. Who knows exactly how many are tatted, not to mention the amount of individual artists for any given player. I think we'll definitely see more next year but it all depends on how many players actually even care about their in-game likeness. While I do hope they have some generic tattoos in-game, I'm not expecting and nor would I really care if they did or didn't.

                        They obviously don't want to be sued again. An ESPN article also mentions that Warner Bros. was sued by Mike Tyson's tattoo artist because they used it in the Hangover 2. When I play my Chiefs franchise, I'll probably see Kaepernick once, maybe twice over the entirety of it so virtually nothing will be different.

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                        • SmashMan
                          All Star
                          • Dec 2004
                          • 9686

                          #87
                          Re: Colin Kaepernick Will Be the Only Player in Madden NFL 15 with Tattoos

                          Originally posted by RipCityAndy
                          Hey SmashMan. You're correct. We don't know anything about any of the other companies/unions (other than the NFLPA). The whole "tattoo as a copyright" issue is, however, still governed by the Copyright Act.
                          No doubt. Didn't want to imply that others were just ignoring that, but they may be more prepared or keep their players more informed than it appears the NFLPA has been.

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                          • MAGboyswifT27
                            Rookie
                            • Sep 2012
                            • 206

                            #88
                            Disappointing news..

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                            • moylan1234
                              MVP
                              • Jul 2004
                              • 3946

                              #89
                              Re: Colin Kaepernick Will Be the Only Player in Madden NFL 15 with Tattoos

                              Originally posted by Iceman87GT
                              I don't get the all or nothing argument for tattoos... You know what's more awkward than 1 player having tattoos and everyone else not? When a player with full sleeves like Kaepernick doesn't have any tattoos.

                              I can name 2 players who have tattoos that throw me off when I see them in Madden without them: Kaepernick, and Tom Crabtree (currently a Free Agent).

                              I am perfectly fine with Kaepernick being the only guy with Tattoos this year, and I don't think it will take me out of the moment if I were to see his represented and then everyone else with bare arms (because again I couldn't tell you what any other players' tattoos look like, or which players on the 9ers that have tattoos). I couldn't tell you who on my favorite team (the Packers) has tattoos, I know plenty of players do, but I couldn't single them out, or tell you what they look like (we haven't had a guy with sleeves since we opted not to re-sign Crabtree), nor could I tell you who on the Falcons does(local team, which means its who I watch whenever the Packers aren't playing in the same time-slot).

                              I hope they have generic tattoos for other players until they can secure the actual tattoo rights, but even if they don't I could care less.

                              I don't get why people are getting mad at EA/Madden for including the only player they have rights to. I mean Kaepernick spent the money to secure the rights for this express purpose and now you are advocating that EA ignore that because you think it would look awkward if he was properly represented in the game?

                              Lighten up! EA has actually stepper their game up (at least in the graphics department, hopefully in the gameplay as well), and you are getting angry about it?! They just can't win with some people.
                              So one guy with full sleeves playing with and against 2,000 others who are completely blank won't throw off realism at all for you? to each his own I guess, but it will me. It's not about their specific tattoos either as I'm like you I don't know who has what exactly but I do know that several players have them scattered if I can't recreate that for every player in the game why would I want to for just one?

                              Like I said earlier think about dreadlocks or skin color even for that matter. Would it look right if one guy has dreads and the other 2,000 don't? or if one guy is blue and the other 2,000 purple? and in no way am I claiming this to be a game breaker on any level. it just doesn't look right to me and I question the decision unless we're able to edit in our own generics obviously.

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                              • victorkingchamp
                                Rookie
                                • Sep 2008
                                • 50

                                #90
                                I don't care to join the legal discussion. The bottom line is:

                                The screen shot got me hype. The facts killed my hype.

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