Why Is Madden Still Not Available On PC At This Point?

[roadman]

Re: Why Is Madden Still Not Available On PC At This Point?

One of the reasons many people are still modding Madden 08 is because they have no other choice of a more recent game to play on the PC in the Madden series. They are forced to MOD the crap out of it to get it up to date with today's uniforms, stadiums, rosters, etc.

I am willing to bet that if EA released Madden 15 on PC, the modding of Madden 08 would come to a screeching halt.

It would be a very niche market, though.

Heck, back in 2007, desktops were more popular than laptops.

Now, I don't know many people who own a desktop.

I'm assuming you'd need a gaming laptop to download Madden if you don't have a desktop.

[kehlis]

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I would HOPE that they would cater to me for my money. When Madden was on the PC, I bought it EVERY YEAR from 1999 to 2008.

But how many of YOU are there?

It's easy as a consumer to demand they cater to you individually but you have to view it from the companies standpoint.

In all likelihood, there just aren't enough customers out there like you to warrant it.

[badluck22]

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I see where some of you are coming from and i hate comparing two different games but 2k has been releasing nba2k out on PC for the last 6 years now, right around when madden stopped selling it on PC and im pretty sure madden out sells nba2k.

2k feels there is a market there, football is a much bigger sport in american than basketball, why wouldnt there be a market for football?

[roadman]

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I see where some of you are coming from and i hate comparing two different games but 2k has been releasing nba2k out on PC for the last 6 years now, right around when madden stopped selling it on PC and im pretty sure madden out sells nba2k.

2k feels there is a market there, football is a much bigger sport in american than basketball, why wouldnt there be a market for football?

2k feels that they can make a bit of a profit, Madden probably doesn't feel the same way.

[m1ke_nyc]

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I see where some of you are coming from and i hate comparing two different games but 2k has been releasing nba2k out on PC for the last 6 years now, right around when madden stopped selling it on PC and im pretty sure madden out sells nba2k.

2k feels there is a market there, football is a much bigger sport in american than basketball, why wouldnt there be a market for football?

Thats a completely different company. Thats not a fair comparison. At the end of the day it comes down to money. If EA felt Madden would be profitable enough on PC it would exist. They dont believe the market is there and I'm sure past sales show that.

[pjburrage]

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I think the biggest obstacle about getting Madden on PC, is PCs themselves. When developing for the PS4/PS3/XboxOne/Xbox360, the developer is providing a game to a console with a fixed set of system details, with PCs one PC is unlikely to be the same as the next. This then adds the extra option into the developing process of working out what minimum requirements to aim for, which in turn have a negative effect on the game itself. This is why I think we are seeing the proliferation of cloud based games, as the main processing on the game can be done centrally, so as to envelope a wider user base.

There's also the access to games consoles as a whole. Here in the UK, the computer game industry initially developed around the likes of Amiga, Commodore, and Acorn, very much the precursors to the modern PC, and it wasn't really until the Nintendo 64 that console gaming took off (the different TV signals - PAL v NTSC - probably the reason for that as it was around that time that TVs here started being able to process an NTSC signal). Eventually this lead to a decline in PC gaming here, where pretty much for the last 4/5 years the #1 selling PC game each week has been that year's version of Football Manager. The ease at which you can now buy consoles also aids this access, in the early 90s the only place to get a console was in specialised computer games shops, electonics retailers, or big toy shops, now you go online or pretty much any town centre retailer and buy one. The cost also comes into play. A decent gaming PC is going to set you back £750+, while a console is half the price.

So all in all, it's down to numbers. Now most people have a PC, but fewer have a PC that be considered decent for gaming, fewer still have a PC reasonable enough to make Madden look good on PC, and fewer still have that decent PC as their only gaming access. As even if you had a decent PC and one of the consoles, if your friend buys Madden on one system, you are more likely to buy it on that same system, and there's the biggest obstacle.

[kehlis]

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I see where some of you are coming from and i hate comparing two different games but 2k has been releasing nba2k out on PC for the last 6 years now, right around when madden stopped selling it on PC and im pretty sure madden out sells nba2k.

2k feels there is a market there, football is a much bigger sport in american than basketball, why wouldnt there be a market for football?

NBA sells much more internationally than the NFL would.

[DCEBB2001]

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But how many of YOU are there?

It's easy as a consumer to demand they cater to you individually but you have to view it from the companies standpoint.

In all likelihood, there just aren't enough customers out there like you to warrant it.

I don't really care how many people like me are out there. The fact is that there is a market for EA to tap into that they are not tapping into. I have NBA 2K on the PC, and it is pretty sweet, and as a result, they will continue to get my $30 every year. I just don't like it when EA takes things away from you that used to be standard, that's all. If EA made Madden available on more platforms, they would increase their sales. Sure, maybe they won't increase the margin much, but at least you would gain some people back who would continue to buy year after year.

[Cusefan]

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I don't really care how many people like me are out there. The fact is that there is a market for EA to tap into that they are not tapping into. I have NBA 2K on the PC, and it is pretty sweet, and as a result, they will continue to get my $30 every yearI just don't like it when EA takes things away from you that used to be standard, that's all. If EA made Madden available on more platforms, they would increase their sales. Sure, maybe they won't increase the margin much, but at least you would gain some people back who would continue to buy year after year.

EA doesn't want your $30, they want your $60. I really think people are over thinking this; EA used to make madden for PC so they know what to expect for revenue. Since they stopped the PC version that probably means it's not a worthwhile venture.

I have a very powerful PC and I still would buy madden for my xbox since that is where my friends play.

[Mr.Smif]

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Thats a completely different company. Thats not a fair comparison. At the end of the day it comes down to money. If EA felt Madden would be profitable enough on PC it would exist. They dont believe the market is there and I'm sure past sales show that.

You mean to tell me an NBA game can make more money on PC than the all mighty NFL?

[Mr.Smif]

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I barely know anything about programming, but Im fairly sure it does not take that much effort to port a game over to PC, isn't all next gen consoles running x86 cpu? And I thought all games are first developed on PC? when you see videos of teams developing games, they are always developing them on a PC.

[m1ke_nyc]

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You mean to tell me an NBA game can make more money on PC than the all mighty NFL?

No what im saying is these are 2 different companies. 2K sports may decide that selling 10k copies of NBA2K on PC is worthwhile for them. EA may say selling 10k copies of Madden on PC just isnt worth it fincancially for their company.

[aholbert32]

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You mean to tell me an NBA game can make more money on PC than the all mighty NFL?

Yes, internationally. The NFL doesnt sell in Europe and Asia. The NBA does.

[aholbert32]

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I barely know anything about programming, but Im fairly sure it does not take that much effort to port a game over to PC, isn't all next gen consoles running x86 cpu? And I thought all games are first developed on PC? when you see videos of teams developing games, they are always developing them on a PC.

Its not extremely difficult but it isnt as easy as you think.

[Hooe]

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I barely know anything about programming, but Im fairly sure it does not take that much effort to port a game over to PC, isn't all next gen consoles running x86 cpu? And I thought all games are first developed on PC? when you see videos of teams developing games, they are always developing them on a PC.

Assuming the game is built on Windows, they'd have to remove any calls to XBOX One / PS4 SDK functions in the code and either wrap those functions themselves or find a similar PC SDK to build upon. I imagine that porting from the XBOX One would alleviate this somewhat, since both the XBOX One and Windows PCs can leverage DirectX for rendering-related functions, but it's still a non-trivial amount of work.