Madden NFL 15 Trailer and Screenshots - Player Sense 2.0

[chicubsfan20]

Heh...I did a double take when I saw who responded to that CB. Welcome back! (I don't post that often anymore, so my apologies if I'm behind the curve on you reemergence).

Anyway, you may be right...although I'm hesitant to trust Madden AI with such concepts. As long as it all works without being cheap though, I guess it doesn't matter much. We'll see.

Defenders with higher ratings in Zone Coverage will react much quicker to throws, often times before the ball is thrown.

Sounds like they'll read the QB eyes.. just hope it isn't as bad as defenders swatting the ball down with their head not even facing the ball. I hope its a fair thing and not cheap.

[KickassJohnson]

Re: Madden NFL 15 Trailer and Screenshots - Player Sense 2.0

Geez that Eric Weddle int.. WR wasn't even close and still had that same old catching animation

I mean cmon....

[jpdavis82]

Re: Madden NFL 15 Trailer and Screenshots - Player Sense 2.0

Geez that Eric Weddle int.. WR wasn't even close and still had that same old catching animation

I mean cmon....

Did you catch the stream Friday?


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[jpdavis82]

Madden NFL 15 Trailer and Screenshots - Player Sense 2.0

Geez that Eric Weddle int.. WR wasn't even close and still had that same old catching animation

I mean cmon....

I don't see an issue with that, here's why. it may look funny but wrs and dbs make catching motions like that even if they're a good ways apart in real life.










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[KickassJohnson]

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No I did not catch the stream Friday, my issue is that even in the pics you posted there is separation between the DB and WR, in the game they run stride for stride and are close, and then one of them either catches it or it bounces of his hands. I meant the WR was nowhere close to catching the ball. Even if the DB wasn't there, it looks like the WR wouldn't catch it.

It just looked exactly like the past years bs

[jpdavis82]

Madden NFL 15 Trailer and Screenshots - Player Sense 2.0

No I did not catch the stream Friday, my issue is that even in the pics you posted there is separation between the DB and WR, in the game they run stride for stride and are close, and then one of them either catches it or it bounces of his hands. I meant the WR was nowhere close to catching the ball. Even if the DB wasn't there, it looks like the WR wouldn't catch it.

It just looked exactly like the past years bs

You need to watch the stream, the pics are from real life and the player sense trailer. The bottom two pics are from the game, there's separation. Just watch the stream, the game is much improved. Wrs can even bat down balls to keep the DB from getting it now.



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[KickassJohnson]

Re: Madden NFL 15 Trailer and Screenshots - Player Sense 2.0

If there is separation, cool. If they are battling, do the catch animation, and only 1 guy touches the ball, not cool.

[Big FN Deal]

Re: Madden NFL 15 Trailer and Screenshots - Player Sense 2.0

You need to watch the stream, the pics are from real life and the player sense trailer. The bottom two pics are from the game, there's separation. Just watch the stream, the game is much improved. Wrs can even bat down balls to keep the DB from getting it now.



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This team has already admitted that WR/DB interaction has a ways to go and they want to get it there, no need to try to present an existing issue as more realistic than we realize with real NFL stills. The main difference in those real life stills and what we all see still happening in M15 is the receivers in real life being aware of a defender(s) when judging the pass, unless they somehow catch them by surprise, while in Madden they are never aware of them, even when they're right next to each other. Then the instant an INT is made, they suddenly realize it's a defender and make a tackle, it looks disjointed at times. Also we have no idea if the new WR deflecting the pass away ability is even utilized by the AI/CPU players, if it were that would go a long way towards visually cleaning up some of those plays in M15.

To recap it's disingenuous, imo, to try to justify any issue in Madden with examples of it happening in the NFL, without context. No different than QBs trucking LBs, Kickers/Punters delivering big hits, "beast mode" runs, etc.

[TFer832]

Re: Madden NFL 15 Trailer and Screenshots - Player Sense 2.0

This team has already admitted that WR/DB interaction has a ways to go and they want to get it there, no need to try to present an existing issue as more realistic than we realize with real NFL stills. The main difference in those real life stills and what we all see still happening in M15 is the receivers in real life being aware of a defender(s) when judging the pass, unless they somehow catch them by surprise, while in Madden they are never aware of them, even when they're right next to each other. Then the instant an INT is made, they suddenly realize it's a defender and make a tackle, it looks disjointed at times. Also we have no idea if the new WR deflecting the pass away ability is even utilized by the AI/CPU players, if it were that would go a long way towards visually cleaning up some of those plays in M15.

To recap it's disingenuous, imo, to try to justify any issue in Madden with examples of it happening in the NFL, without context. No different than QBs trucking LBs, Kickers/Punters delivering big hits, "beast mode" runs, etc.

how about sometimes when a DB makes an INT and immediately turns towards the endzone (not the endzone they should be running towards). It is as if they are programmed as WR's.. and the mirrored animations sometimes confuses them to being on offense. This still remains one of the biggest weak spots in madden... when a jump ball happens and both the DB and WR have the same catching animation.

[Big FN Deal]

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how about sometimes when a DB makes an INT and immediately turns towards the endzone (not the endzone they should be running towards). It is as if they are programmed as WR's.. and the mirrored animations sometimes confuses them to being on offense. This still remains one of the biggest weak spots in madden... when a jump ball happens and both the DB and WR have the same catching animation.

I always looked at that and got more annoyed that in those instances the intended receiver didn't trigger a pass defender animation as well, lol. I feel what you're saying though, I looked at all that stuff as a band aid anyway, so hopefully the WR/DB interaction overhaul they keep claiming to be coming will address both.

[TFer832]

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I always looked at that and got more annoyed that in those instances the intended receiver didn't trigger a pass defender animation as well, lol. I feel what you're saying though, I looked at all that stuff as a band aid anyway, so hopefully the WR/DB interaction overhaul they keep claiming to be coming will address both.

yeah man I hear that. When an INT happens... you can see a lot of the flaws in the animation system by watching the intended receiver AFTER the INT is made.. For example if the DB undercuts the WR and picks it off in front of him... quite often you see the WR finish that animation and tuck away an imaginary ball as if he caught it. It just absolutely kills the immersion for me.

I know WR/DB interaction is on the horizon (hopefully).. but plays like that can really hurt any sort of realistic outcomes after int's.