Madden NFL 15 Developer Livestream - Presentation and Graphics

[MNHuskerman]

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yet another video and yet ANOTHER day game!!!!!!! why they showing only day games? should atleast show night or weather game.

My amateur opinion would be they don't want us to see night games or dome games because they still look like $hit on a shingle! I hope I'm wrong, and they are waiting to blow us away when they reveal CFM features, but I wasn't born yesterday. Also, what evidence do we have that they have improved weather games at all? None. Rain game is constant driving rainstorm, and the same with snow. No variability or anything close to dynamic weather.

[jpdavis82]

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Our boy Sim told me he will have the stream uploaded to YouTube later today😃

[WakeUp_YoureDreaming]

Both livestreams were on PS4 ...

Yeah, you're right. Just noticed the controllers. I'm at a loss. I think I'll hold the rest of my judgements until the demo, and just keep my fingers crossed in hopes that there is still some tweaking yet to be done before the final build.

[The JareBear]

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Yeah, you're right. Just noticed the controllers. I'm at a loss. I think I'll hold the rest of my judgements until the demo, and just keep my fingers crossed in hopes that there is still some tweaking yet to be done before the final build.

I feel like something had to be wrong with the capture device or something involved in getting the image from the ps4 to the twitch feed. It looked like they were playing with brightness and contrast turned all the way up or something, it didn't seem normal at all. I really don't think, graphics wise, the stream showed how the game accurately looks.

Gameplay wise, I mean, it speaks for itself, there were some question marks, but no way it was supposed to look that washed out

[Mr.Smif]

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I don't know what everyone is complaining about. I think at a certain point, everyone has unrealistic expectations. It is after all, a video game. I think graphics wise, it looks amazing and I think the camera angles really add a lot to the whole package. You spend so much time complaining about the things wrong with it, that you forget to appreciate just how far madden has come. Does it still have a ways to go before it is perfect? Yes. I still say this madden is the furthest jump from one year to another that we have ever had. Madden is on the right track, we just have to let the developers work their magic.

How are our expectation unrealistic when football games that came out 7-10 years ago replicate football in a way more realistic way. I expect a football in 2014 to not only be on that level but surpass it.

[Mr.Smif]

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Definitely seems like gang tackling was nerf'd from the first stream. In the first stream their were more instances of multiple player tackles, defenders flying towards the ball carrier attempting to help on the tackle.
The second stream displayed a lot more one-on-one tackles, and defenders standing around before the ball carrier is even down all the way. Its like the defenders go brain dead once the one-on-one tackle animation trigger.

[countryboy]

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August 26th needs to hurry itself along. I'm ready to play this game for myself.

[charter04]

Madden NFL 15 Developer Livestream - Presentation and Graphics

Lets all just wait till we see an actual retail build before we jump off that proverbial bridge. If you don't like the retail build and think problems still exist there is a very simple solution to the problem: don't buy it!.

Ok! I won't!

Just wanted to make my own statement to include needless exclamation points too!


But seriously this just makes me ready to play it myself. The only reason I'm getting a little worried is because of things that happened with 13 and 25. Fool me once...

The Demo and playing the game early on EA access with help make up my mind.

[jpdavis82]

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Here it is

http://youtu.be/l2aSebUmGO0?a

[charter04]

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Glad it's on YouTube. I'm going to watch it again. Sometimes twitch isn't the best quality. Maybe that will make a difference

[munky1307]

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Has anyone been able to put the full stream up on YouTube? All I've seen is the short one JP was nice enough to post. Thanks!!

[countryboy]

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Has anyone been able to put the full stream up on YouTube? All I've seen is the short one JP was nice enough to post. Thanks!!

the original post in the thread has the link to the full stream

[TexasFan2005]

Madden NFL 15 Developer Livestream - Presentation and Graphics

One thing that I haven't seen mentioned for Madden 15 is whether there's variety in presentation elements for primetime games vs Sunday afternoon games. Madden 25 barely scraped the surface by adding different replay swipes Thurs night football, Game of the Week, and Primetime Football for TNF/SNF/MNF games respectively.

I really hope they've added to this instead of scrapping it altogether, especially since CBS will be broadcasting Thursday night games for the first half of the season.

[jpdavis82]

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Has anyone been able to put the full stream up on YouTube? All I've seen is the short one JP was nice enough to post. Thanks!!

This is the full stream in YouTube format
Here it is

http://youtu.be/l2aSebUmGO0?a

[FaceMask]

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The BAD

You know how when you watch a sitcom and something goes really bad, the audience does a collective "Awwwwwwwww"? That's what popped into my head looking at those post-play cameras. What a letdown. Guys are doing all these celebrations and the cameras are way out. What? They bring in Brian Murray and still can't get it right? APF still remains the standard in this regard, and they never hired a single NFL Films expert to do it. That tells us a lot right there.

Coaches are shown WAAAAAAY too much. That needs to be cut by about 75% at least. The focus and the majority of the tight shots should be on the players, not the coaches.

Timeouts still prevent replays, as well as starting lineup sequences, etc.

Guys raising their hands after routine big plays (not TD's) looks goofy.

Ballcarrier and general running animations look funny. It looks stiff and high. It works for some players, but most of them look weird.

Commentary is still generic. Too much "he takes the handoff", "he runs right", "The offense lines up". That stuff is just laughable at this point. You can't excuse that anymore.

Seeing way too many cut scenes from Madden 13 and 25. That's just sickening. None of that should be in this game now.

The ability of players to change direction on a dime looks PS1 era, smh. Inexcusable. We know Momentum needed to be toned a bit due to players taking too many steps to cut in M25, but this is going way too far.

The pocket is still highly questionable.


The GOOD

Tackling has been tuned. I'm seeing some different (better) tackles in situations where the hair-pulling ones would've happened before. Not perfect, not great, but definitely better than before enough to be acceptable. Now the question is, how will it hold up after playing a number of games? That will be the true test.

The RTP collisions look smoother and better organized, especially during piles.

The graphics are great.

Pre-play cameras are very nice.

Replays are nice.

Not gonna lie, the halftime show SOUNDED great. The energy was right and vocal clips meshed very well. I'm impressed. HOWEVER, the number of generic lines is frustrating. They did fit a few names in there, but it was surrounded by generic lines like "he (insert action)!". That's gotta die across all commentary in Madden.
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Many of the problems in this game are a matter of artistic license, and an issue with closing small quality gaps across the game. The question is, does Tiburon recognize these gaps, and do they understand how having so many is keeping this game from evolving to the next level? Well, when they're saying in the video that guys raising their hands like they scored a TD on a routine first down is "cool", you have to question if they do.