Madden NFL 15 - Complete Player and Team Ratings For AFC and NFC North

[Khanchus]

Mosley is like a top 10 Madden LB out of the gate. those coverage ratings are ridiculous.

Yeah man...i feel the same exact way

our defensive line is going to because stout this yr with so much depth...Jernigan, Lewis Moore, Wliilams (these three i was expecting not to get a rating respective to their ablilty mainly because those guys are only really known to ravens fans and not around the league so i would presume Donny Moore wouldnt know to much about their phyiscally raw ability (let alone their potential but how can you rate potential?) Mcphee (they say hes a OLB but i see him mostly line up as a DE), ngata, and you got sizzle and dummervil coming off the sides, not to mention canty as another veteran leader, and some young yungs like that 6'7 dude who just tore his ACL, i think Urshel is his name, but that is going to give him time to get accustom to the nfl)

Jimmy Smith doesnt get the attention he deserves, his been consistent and always improving, his speed/acc rating i wouldnt really complain about because i feel like his length makes him dangerous appose to his speed

Yeah your right Bfem, Mosley will be beastly with those coverage ratings and his speed not to mention he has a 72 catch rating.

Ive been hoping for Cody to finally step up but im loosing hope for him, even though they said hes healthy and better than ever and i read today hes hurt with his hip again smh

[Shaffer26]

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I know it doesn't matter, but how is Blair Walsh an 81? That's hilariously low.

[LBzrule]

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Yeah man...i feel the same exact way

our defensive line is going to because stout this yr with so much depth...Jernigan, Lewis Moore, Wliilams (these three i was expecting not to get a rating respective to their ablilty mainly because those guys are only really known to ravens fans and not around the league so i would presume Donny Moore wouldnt know to much about their phyiscally raw ability (let alone their potential but how can you rate potential?) Mcphee (they say hes a OLB but i see him mostly line up as a DE), ngata, and you got sizzle and dummervil coming off the sides, not to mention canty as another veteran leader, and some young yungs like that 6'7 dude who just tore his ACL, i think Urshel is his name, but that is going to give him time to get accustom to the nfl)

Jimmy Smith doesnt get the attention he deserves, his been consistent and always improving, his speed/acc rating i wouldnt really complain about because i feel like his length makes him dangerous appose to his speed

Yeah your right Bfem, Mosley will be beastly with those coverage ratings and his speed not to mention he has a 72 catch rating.

Ive been hoping for Cody to finally step up but im loosing hope for him, even though they said hes healthy and better than ever and i read today hes hurt with his hip again smh

One thing I disagree with you on is when there is evidence out there that shows that 1) one player has moved up the depth chart over another player; and 2) shows that one player is physically superior to another player, then that must get addressed ASAP. If Donny is the 'Czar' that he says he is, then he's not only looking at some stats from last year, but he's doing exactly what you said you don't expect him to do, namely keep up with the team.

On Jimmy Smith, tell me how exactly does a guy line up against a WR that is rated 99 in this game and on 13 targets in a half, hold him to 2 catches for 8 yards and all he is is an 82 overall. Not even some of the guys they have in the top five CB's can claim that. Now I'm not saying Smith should be a top 5 guy, although some sites graded him as that for last year. I won't go that far, but I sure as hell don't believe he should be merely an 82.

[The JareBear]

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Could be that one of them is measuring how far passes are from the line of scrimmage while the other is measuring how far the pass physically travels in the air, and could also be that maybe ESPN didn't account for drops in theirs. Idk. Or maybe passes that rotoworld thought were drops, ESPN disagreed on.

This is why sometimes I just don't have total faith in stats. Sometimes it's just best to watch game tape.

From what I saw, Teddy is definitely the most accurate passer out of the big three rookies. Bortles has the most pure arm strength. What is Teddys arm strength in the game? I'm having trouble viewing it on my ipad. I think 88-89 is fair.

[Khanchus]

One thing I disagree with you on is when there is evidence out there that shows that 1) one player has moved up the depth chart over another player; and 2) shows that one player is physically superior to another player, then that must get addressed ASAP. If Donny is the 'Czar' that he says he is, then he's not only looking at some stats from last year, but he's doing exactly what you said you don't expect him to do, namely keep up with the team.

On Jimmy Smith, tell me how exactly does a guy line up against a WR that is rated 99 in this game and on 13 targets in a half, hold him to 2 catches for 8 yards and all he is is an 82 overall. Not even some of the guys they have in the top five CB's can claim that. Now I'm not saying Smith should be a top 5 guy, although some sites graded him as that for last year. I won't go that far, but I sure as hell don't believe he should be merely an 82.

correct, and i am not giving Donny Moore an excuse to not accurately rate a guy, but your right in what your saying about the depth chart/ strength issue

Ok yea i agree with you the Jimmy had a monster game and i said he is not getting the attention he deserves and i feel like he should be 84-87 but i am fine with a 82 with exception to his pursuit rating.
One more year of dominance and he should be up there and if not i would start to feel how you currently due.

[friscob]

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Agreed. I don't have any issue with our linebackers. I just have an issue with Jimmy Smith and guys on our defensive line. I get that they are going to need to prove themselves this season, but some things should already be evident from physical standpoint. Terrance Cody is hanging on by a damn thread to make the team, has a 97 strength in Madden. Since when did this guy ever show that kind of strength? Never did. Not even close. He's just fat. Brandon Williams on the other hand, Bench Presses 525 http://www.baltimoreravens.com/news/...f-14671dca3116 there is evidence to show that. Why can't he get the appropriate strength rating in the game for that? I know why, because then he'd be stronger than their favorite guys. Well he is.

This guy will be starting for us this year, not Cody and already from a physical standpoint he should be rated better than Cody. Hell with limited time as a rookie, Williams did something that Cody has not since he's been in the league, namely register a QB sack. Anyways...

Terrence Cody has a cool nickname which is worth at least a 5 pt attribute boost in Donny's eyes

[wordtobigbird]

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I hope Madden placed more importance on intangibles awareness and play recognition and players being in the right position to make a play over the straight line speed/agility so many of us have used as a a measuring stick for years.

Biggest issue of all right here.

If, in real football its something like 75% mental or whatever. In Madden it's 90% physical. The mental/technique ratings don't seem to ever matter much. LBz mentioned Cody's 97 STR. He's going to beast in Madden soley for this reason.

[mmorg]

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I'll be doing a live broadcast on twitch tonight previewing the NFC North teams and how the rookies will impact them. The twitch channel is in my signature.

[LBzrule]

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Biggest issue of all right here.

If, in real football its something like 75% mental or whatever. In Madden it's 90% physical. The mental/technique ratings don't seem to ever matter much. LBz mentioned Cody's 97 STR. He's going to beast in Madden soley for this reason.

I just looked at the list again and Cody is the STRONGEST guy on our team in Madden. What a JOKE. I guess he has to be rated that way though so that he can't be easily moved since strength matters a lot for DL. But that just shows how messed up the system is IMO.

[HingleMcCringleberry]

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Donny Moore is very awful at rate players that why some players has ridiculous rating

95% of the league is rated wayyyyy too high. It's why the game plays so ridiculously all the time. This, and the fact mentioned above that the physical ratings far outweigh intangibles in this game 90% to 10%. Yet to make rookies ratings lower, they drop the intangibles which essentially mean next to nothing in this game. In the NFL, probably 80% or more of the starting QBs in the league have a better arm than Peyton Manning, and 90% probably have better athletic ability (speed, strength, etc...). Yet even with these disadvantages, he is able to consistently finish in the top 3 in the league year in and year out due to his intangibles and experience.

If they rated players considerably lower, got rid of the Olympic sprinter speed for 95% of the players, and made the intangibles play a much larger factor in the game, then the players will eventually start playing like they do on Sunday. Until then, no matter how "simulation" this game declares itself to be, it will never quite live up to it's claims. Immersion is largely impacted by how realistically the players on the field play, not how shiny and sparkly their helmets are.

[LBzrule]

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95% of the league is rated wayyyyy too high. It's why the game plays so ridiculously all the time. This, and the fact mentioned above that the physical ratings far outweigh intangibles in this game 90% to 10%. Yet to make rookies ratings lower, they drop the intangibles which essentially mean next to nothing in this game. In the NFL, probably 80% or more of the starting QBs in the league have a better arm than Peyton Manning, and 90% probably have better athletic ability (speed, strength, etc...). Yet even with these disadvantages, he is able to consistently finish in the top 3 in the league year in and year out due to his intangibles and experience.

If they rated players considerably lower, got rid of the Olympic sprinter speed for 95% of the players, and made the intangibles play a much larger factor in the game, then the players will eventually start playing like they do on Sunday. Until then, no matter how "simulation" this game declares itself to be, it will never quite live up to it's claims. Immersion is largely impacted by how realistically the players on the field play, not how shiny and sparkly their helmets are.

This is true. I look at a guy like Courtney Upshaw and he'll NEVER be good in this game because his stats don't look impressive but Upshaw does a lot of dirty work and his football IQ is off the charts. He's one of the top 3 edge run setters in the NFL, but this game doesn't have anything to show that. So I barely ever play him in CC. Just like Sherman will more than likely deny all passes in this game, running to Upshaw's side of the field should be a waste of your time more often than not. But that's not going to be showcased in Madden. Still got a long ways to go.

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It's the same reason I'm actually not satisfied with Jimmy Smith's Acceleration and less speed. In a game like this that stuff matters a hell of a lot for CB's. And they change it when they feel like it. Richard Sherman is the classic example. Not a great 40 time 4.54. Jimmy Smith 4.42. Look at Smith Madden Speed and Accel and look at Sherman. I'm not saying Smith is Sherman or better, that would be foolish. What I am saying is the system is hosed, these are the only changes they can make to reflect the real world unfortunately. Can't have the best CB in the game with a mere 86/87 speed. Matt Elam ran a 4.46 official and look at what Donny gave him speed wise; slower than Sherman in Madden, faster on the track in real life.

[HingleMcCringleberry]

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This is true. I look at a guy like Courtney Upshaw and he'll NEVER be good in this game because his stats don't look impressive but Upshaw does a lot of dirty work and his football IQ is off the charts. He's one of the top 3 edge run setters in the NFL, but this game doesn't have anything to show that. So I barely ever play him in CC. Just like Sherman will more than likely deny all passes in this game, running to Upshaw's side of the field should be a waste of your time more often than not. But that's not going to be showcased in Madden. Still got a long ways to go.

I also don't get how they give Sherman a 99 Man Cover rating when he's a cover 3 corner. And you can run it to either side in Madden no matter who is playing there. as long as it's to the outside you will likely gain anywhere from 5-20 yards per carry.

[Khanchus]

This is true. I look at a guy like Courtney Upshaw and he'll NEVER be good in this game because his stats don't look impressive but Upshaw does a lot of dirty work and his football IQ is off the charts. He's one of the top 3 edge run setters in the NFL, but this game doesn't have anything to show that. So I barely ever play him in CC. Just like Sherman will more than likely deny all passes in this game, running to Upshaw's side of the field should be a waste of your time more often than not. But that's not going to be showcased in Madden. Still got a long ways to go.

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It's the same reason I'm actually not satisfied with Jimmy Smith's Acceleration and less speed. In a game like this that stuff matters a hell of a lot for CB's. And they change it when they feel like it. Richard Sherman is the classic example. Not a great 40 time 4.54. Jimmy Smith 4.42. Look at Smith Madden Speed and Accel and look at Sherman. I'm not saying Smith is Sherman or better, that would be foolish. What I am saying is the system is hosed, these are the only changes they can make to reflect the real world unfortunately. Can't have the best CB in the game with a mere 86/87 speed. Matt Elam ran a 4.46 official and look at what Donny gave him speed wise; slower than Sherman in Madden, faster on the track in real life.

not saying your wrong but on the field speed is different than your 40 speed

but i totally agree with what your saying

but i also agree with the intangible thing....footbal i would say is 65-35 phyiscal- mental with a few exceptions like QB, P/K, and maybe FB (probably not because even the ravens kicked leach to the side for someone younger and better hands)

The ratings scale is off but it doesnt need a drastic change everyone is calling for

Interested in the FBG ratings but im a online cfm guy so thats a no go

[HingleMcCringleberry]

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not saying your wrong but on the field speed is different than your 40 speed

but i totally agree with what your saying

but i also agree with the intangible thing....footbal i would say is 65-35 phyiscal- mental with a few exceptions like QB, P/K, and maybe FB (probably not because even the ravens kicked leach to the side for someone younger and better hands)

The ratings scale is off but it doesnt need a drastic change everyone is calling for

Interested in the FBG ratings but im a online cfm guy so thats a no go

Near every position has extremely high emphasis on the mental aspect at the pro level. LBs have to be able to read blocks in a fraction of a second to either commit their gap assignments or drop into coverage. WRs have to read coverages just like QBs since many of the passing plays are designed where routes change mid-play based on coverage. OL has to read stunts and alignments by the DL and LBs so they can make sure they don't miss a block. And the list goes on.

In Madden for each of the above examples, LBs will get faked out during a play action on 3rd and 25 EVERY TIME while completely ignoring gap assignments and coverage assignments, WRs almost never read coverage correctly on option routes, and it is extremely easy to confuse the OL since they consistently miss open blocks and continue to stand there confused.

And if only we could edit draft classes or rosters mid season we could use FBG ratings

[friscob]

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Near every position has extremely high emphasis on the mental aspect at the pro level. LBs have to be able to read blocks in a fraction of a second to either commit their gap assignments or drop into coverage. WRs have to read coverages just like QBs since many of the passing plays are designed where routes change mid-play based on coverage. OL has to read stunts and alignments by the DL and LBs so they can make sure they don't miss a block. And the list goes on.

In Madden for each of the above examples, LBs will get faked out during a play action on 3rd and 25 EVERY TIME while completely ignoring gap assignments and coverage assignments, WRs almost never read coverage correctly on option routes, and it is extremely easy to confuse the OL since they consistently miss open blocks and continue to stand there confused.

And if only we could edit draft classes or rosters mid season we could use FBG ratings

Pass committing solves this, good points overall though.