Madden NFL 15 Connected Franchise Videocast with Josh Looman

[Cre8]

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I am quite pleased with these changes. I am not necessarily 'sold' on Madden 15 being great and worth $60, but these changes are all solid.

For those that say that random classes are only for online leagues, etc.... I really feel like they will never be pleased. Personally, it takes a lot for me to avoid seeing the draft guides for my offline franchise as much as anyone online.

I just wish they would refine the scouting system to actually revolve more around having SCOUTS that look at certain regions, players and positions. I don't like knowing the ratings of players with any certainty. I would like to see there be a range of a +/- 2:7 margin of error when it comes to number ratings.

They should have a list of players going to the combine to be scouted and then also have players that will not do certain workouts or only have a pro day rather than going to the combine. I am not saying that I expect that to be in this game, but I do have hope that it will make it into Madden 16.

Outside of that - I wish they would add more continuity to CFM from season to season. What is the point of simming ahead 10 years if Simms and Nantz don't know that the Browns have won 4 Super Bowls since the arrival of Manziel? Because you know that when you go to play the 2024 season and win the Super Bowl with Cleveland you will hear them say "For the first time ever, the Lombardi Trophy is going to Cleveland!".

I always shake my head at how much those details truly lack continuity from week to week and season to season.

[Connolly22]

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All I'm going to say is that for a good majority of SIM players it's very hard to get into your franchise if your a OFFLINE MODE user, when you have to draft fake players, I feel that the online players are being catered to and offline users are being ignored if there was a separate mode for offline....(completely separate) it be a better SIM game but whatever. I like all the additions but it still leaves much to Desire, I may pass on this year I'm undecided. To me it seems the reason we don't get custom draft classes is more of a ego thing Josh looman comes off as proud of his draft classes and the stories attached to them,in past interviews he was quoted saying that users like the boom or bust factor that you get with their rookies, I for one don't know anyone that loves a 90 ovr rookie. Just give us what we ask for and we are all good shouldn't be this hard.

I'm an offline sim player, and I disagree. It honestly doesn't bother me much, if at all. The only thing that can bug me is the picture not matching the player. But you guys crying over names and stuff is just dumb. Get over it.

[NDAlum]

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I'm an offline sim player, and I disagree. It honestly doesn't bother me much, if at all. The only thing that can bug me is the picture not matching the player. But you guys crying over names and stuff is just dumb. Get over it.

I think it's fair they have their criticism and make their points on here and try to get it added.

However, when it gets to a point where the criticisms are disrespectful and can be interpreted as "shots" at devs we'll have an issue and those people won't post here any longer.

They don't have to get over it but they will have to focus their efforts to a more respectful way if they want to continue to be a part of the OS community.

I definitely see the desire for custom draft classes. In the video Looman made a compelling argument for not having them and it seems as though it is a big task. He came off pretty genuine in the interview so I believe him.

I hope you guys get them at one point, but for now I'm pumped about the completely random draft classes. My pet peeve with them is the pictures. I think they take away from the prospects. I would love for Madden to incorporate something like The Show has. I'm in the minority who would probably just want all cyber faces anyways. Seeing a fast, small, speedy WR with a picture that resembles an offensive lineman makes me shy away from taking that guy.

[ggsimmonds]

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According to a blog by a game changer he said this is fixed for 15. If you carry two QBs and now if your starter get hurts he stays hurt. You know longer have to carry 3 QBs for injuries to work.

Josh said something different in the video. He stated that now you need to carry three QBs and it won't even let you in the game if you are not.

Going to the topic of draft classes and legal issues, I'm not buying it. The deal with the NCAA case was that EA was basically putting in real players on their real teams but changing their names and then allowing users to correct the names and share them. It would be very different in Madden where the user would basically be creating a college prospect from scratch.

[Big FN Deal]

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I think it's fair they have their criticism and make their points on here and try to get it added.

However, when it gets to a point where the criticisms are disrespectful and can be interpreted as "shots" at devs we'll have an issue and those people won't post here any longer.

They don't have to get over it but they will have to focus their efforts to a more respectful way if they want to continue to be a part of the OS community.

I definitely see the desire for custom draft classes. In the video Looman made a compelling argument for not having them and it seems as though it is a big task. He came off pretty genuine in the interview so I believe him.

I hope you guys get them at one point, but for now I'm pumped about the completely random draft classes. My pet peeve with them is the pictures. I think they take away from the prospects. I would love for Madden to incorporate something like The Show has. I'm in the minority who would probably just want all cyber faces anyways. Seeing a fast, small, speedy WR with a picture that resembles an offensive lineman makes me shy away from taking that guy.

The bold just seems like a natural fit in a video game and I find it odd with the numerous other focuses on video game elements, they choose to go for actual real life elements for things like this. Same thing with regard to those NFL Films clips for the initial QB run outs, real world photos/clips disrupt the immersion of the virtual world, for me.

As far as editable draft classes, I think the biggest factor for me in them being left out, is that it limits what can be done in relation to roster ratings editing for career mode or at least makes it far more difficult. Even with random draft classes, they will still disrupt the ratings changes to the original rosters because they won't mesh.

It can be frustrating when it seems for all intents and purposes Tiburon is limiting the User to play the game "their way".

[NDAlum]

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I definitely see that point of view. I would love a better ratings and progression/regression model.

However a fully editable roster from stock to draft classes to even in season would eliminate the need for progression and regression to really matter. You could self regulate everything

[RumbleCard]

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My comparison is that people want the ability to create actual NCAA draft classes. Madden has a licensing deal with the NFLPA and until those created players are part of the NFLPA (i.e drafted, signed as UDFA's) they are not protected under the PA's player likeness deal. That's all it takes is one Sam Keller to see himself in Madden for them to be right back in court. If you were an executive at EA would you put your company in that situation? Don't think of it as a gamer, think of it as a business owner. If you have already been involved in a few lawsuits for the same thing and that thing was part of the reason that caused you to lose one product. Why would you even take a chance with doing it again?

Again words matter. They don't want to create NCAA draft classes. They want to create Madden draft classes. The input line can simply be state or city. There doesn't have to be any reference to the NCAA body. But more importantly EA isn't offering the use of any NCAA player for profit or advertising.

The problem was EA creating(using) NCAA player likeness in an NCAA game.

Not the user creating likeness.

If the issue was simply recreating any likeness than there would be no ability to enter your name and likeness as an owner or GM. What's to stop you or me from creating ourselves and then suing EA? Or better yet Ed O'Bannon from popping in Madden and entering his name.

That wasn't the basis for the lawsuit. It was about using player likeness to advertise, promote, sell and profit from. User editing is far removed from the actual developer using a players picture as cover art.

But I do agree with you that they're scared to tow the line even if its clear they're not walking over it. I don't blame them either as you said. However I do think they need to come to terms with the reality that this type of editing exists without issue in PC gaming and other sports titles. Player editing/creating has never been challenged.

I.E.

LeBron creating himself in The Show's RTTS. No lawsuit has ever gone near that kind of stuff.

[underdog13]

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However a fully editable roster from stock to draft classes to even in season would eliminate the need for progression and regression to really matter. You could self regulate everything

Oh gosh please no, I pay $60 to change the ratings myself? no thanks.

[NDAlum]

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Oh gosh please no, I pay $60 to change the ratings myself? no thanks.

MLB The Show 14 allows the user to change ratings if they want and it doesn't take away from the game at all. Regular progression regression still occurs.

[lgxjames]

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Love all of the feedback guys! I am glad that most of you realize what a dedicated person Josh is to Connected Franchise Mode. He's also answering questions for us directly so be sure to keep 'em coming.

Can you please ask if there is ANY plan, short or long term to put in a weekly highlight/FA/Draft show. If no other question ever gets answered I atleast want to know if they have "plans" for it.

[jmurphy31]

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Josh said something different in the video. He stated that now you need to carry three QBs and it won't even let you in the game if you are not.

Going to the topic of draft classes and legal issues, I'm not buying it. The deal with the NCAA case was that EA was basically putting in real players on their real teams but changing their names and then allowing users to correct the names and share them. It would be very different in Madden where the user would basically be creating a college prospect from scratch.

This is from Tradition sports online, I didnt see the whole looman video.

"Injury Glitch in CFM:
What it all means: The dreaded Quarterback injury glitch is now gone from the game. If you have 2 QBs on your depth chart and he gets injured, then you are in deep trouble. This will create more strategy within your depth charts. This also applies to other positional injury situations. Quarterback was just more frequent last release. "

[Toupal]

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I feel like after watching the video, they are more concerned about improving the online cfm, as opposed to the offline.
Online is great, but I feel that ever since Madden first came online, CFM has taken a back seat to the developers at EA.
Modes like MUT that bring in money after release are the way of the future for EA and Madden. Until their is some healthy competition in the football video game world, we are going to keep dealing with them remvoing and readding features that we have grown to love over the last few years.
The improvements are awesome, but are they really worth the $60 upgrade?

[Skyboxer]

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I feel like after watching the video, they are more concerned about improving the online cfm, as opposed to the offline.
Online is great, but I feel that ever since Madden first came online, CFM has taken a back seat to the developers at EA.
Modes like MUT that bring in money after release are the way of the future for EA and Madden. Until their is some healthy competition in the football video game world, we are going to keep dealing with them remvoing and readding features that we have grown to love over the last few years.
The improvements are awesome, but are they really worth the $60 upgrade?

You keep bringing up the "Take away then add later"..
When CCM first came out there were a lot of features we were used to that were gone due to the new system/rebuilding.
Hopefully over time more and more features we all loved make a return but they simply weren't removed just to add back later as a feature that you keep implying.

I also hope more time is spent on offline AI stuff as well .. sooner rather than later.
With that said..the 60.00 is well worth the upgrade. I'll be buying day 1.

[bucky60]

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they simply weren't removed just to add back later as a feature that you keep implying.

I'm going to have to wait and see until I say the above is actually true. If 7-10 years from now no features are removed and things are just added, I'd say you are right. If in 5 years we're starting over again for whatever reason (new leaders) or things are removed, then it's pretty much business as usual.

For me, I just can't stomach the progression system, having to reach statistical goals, etc. But this years looks a little better than M25 in that part of the progression can be due to film study. I too am leaning towards getting M15. I already know what I won't like, so it won't be a shock, and some good things were added to CFM and to game play. Hope we both enjoy it.

[Skyboxer]

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I'm going to have to wait and see until I say the above is actually true. If 7-10 years from now no features are removed and things are just added, I'd say you are right. If in 5 years we're starting over again for whatever reason (new leaders) or things are removed, then it's pretty much business as usual.

For me, I just can't stomach the progression system, having to reach statistical goals, etc. But this years looks a little better than M25 in that part of the progression can be due to film study. I too am leaning towards getting M15. I already know what I won't like, so it won't be a shock, and some good things were added to CFM and to game play. Hope we both enjoy it.

Agree.. They "shouldn't be removing and re-adding anything now...but It's all dependent on whether they scrap the current system again and start over though..
My second point was really that it didn't needed to be said in multiple threads again and again.

I just wish whatever they need to do to get a new animation system and REAL ball physics (something that I see again has not changed a bit as far as the ball) that they'd just do it.