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  • SageInfinite
    Stop The GOAT Talk
    • Jul 2002
    • 11896

    #316
    Re: Madden NFL 15 Gameplay Videos - Day 1

    Originally posted by jpdavis82
    Fwiw

    @jpdavis1982: @ClintOldenburg What happened to signature QB throwing motions and stances? It looks like they were removed. I thought that wouldn't happen

    @ClintOldenburg: @jpdavis1982 nothing has been removed
    They may have not been removed, but they ain't in the footage, lol. Maybe it's a glitch or a bug. Stances are throwing motions are gone. It's all those generic animations they added in 13.
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    • NDAlum
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      • Jun 2010
      • 11453

      #317
      Re: Madden NFL 15 Gameplay Videos - Day 1

      Originally posted by Malcd9583
      Qb sneaks always work because there is no pile ups or great one yard defense. They also have that dive over the top that would work 100 out of 100 times on the 1 yard line. So I see you banning it in your league.
      If I make a push it'll be on 3rd/4th down and 2 yards or less since it's pretty much automatic. I can't stand guys who take chances and then go to the money play for the easy score.

      Hopefully this is something that will be addressed in the future. Also I don't know 100% if it is actually a money play yet again but it sure does appear to be that way. One QB sneak was stuffed with Eli I think.

      It's funny that guy ran 3 QB sneaks in like 20 plays of offense...
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      • vision
        Rookie
        • Jun 2009
        • 263

        #318
        Re: Madden NFL 15 Gameplay Videos - Day 1

        Originally posted by A_Quiet_Pro
        Speaking of animations and running styles, I'll say this again.... What happened to the IGNITE engine allowing devs from different EA Sports games to "steal" and share things others have done??? Wasn't that one of the main focuses of why the engine was built??????? Why Madden hasn't started using FIFA's locomotion system by now is astonishing.
        It's quite possible that they are telling tall tales.. It's not like they haven't done it before. Look at the presentation of madden 25 at E3 2013 last year, and take a look at end product. They straight up lied to the consumer.

        I'm sorry to sound so negative, but I only react to the patterns I've seen from this developer, and publisher. They'll either take 2 steps forward, and 1 step back. Or 1 step forward and 2 steps back. Pick your year for it. Either thier programming chops aren't up to par, or that ignite engine is a bunch of fluff, and/or doesn't apply to the madden series. If FIFA 15 is IGNITE, it looks like it's running on different code. Is it just me?

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        • bucky60
          Banned
          • Jan 2008
          • 3288

          #319
          Re: Madden NFL 15 Gameplay Videos - Day 1

          Originally posted by Armor & Sword
          Just wait till our community (OS) get's a hold of this puppy and set's it to slow, tweaks all the sliders and finds the sim sweet spot. I can see the potential waiting to explode from these vids.
          I hear ya. I always come to OS AFTER RELEASE to get OSers first hand impressions.

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          • Hooe
            Hall Of Fame
            • Aug 2002
            • 21554

            #320
            Re: Madden NFL 15 Gameplay Videos - Day 1

            Originally posted by SageInfinite
            That's not his sig throwing animation. All sig stances and throwing motions that were added in Madden 10 are now gone. Maybe it's a bug or a glitch, but in the footage, everything is gone and is generic now.
            I see what you're saying with the pre-snap stance, you're right that that's not triggering.

            I've played with the Cowboys almost exclusively for the past five years though. To me, when he has time in the pocket, Romo throwing still looks like Romo throwing. The drop back and in-the-pocket stance looks the same to me too.
            Last edited by Hooe; 08-15-2014, 10:46 AM. Reason: clarifications

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            • richie777
              Rookie
              • Nov 2013
              • 10

              #321
              Has anyone said anything about the Eagles huddling every single play on the Skins vid? Chip would rather die than play that slow. I guess realism doesn't really matter. Smh

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              • Malcd9583
                Rookie
                • Sep 2010
                • 117

                #322
                Originally posted by CM Hooe
                I see what you're saying with the pre-snap stance, you're right that that's not triggering.

                I've played with the Cowboys almost exclusively for the past five years though. To me, when he has time in the pocket, Romo throwing still looks like Romo throwing. The drop back and in-the-pocket stance looks the same to me too.
                They had them all right in madden 25 on ps4 and xbox1 qb stance under center and shotgun Philip rivers side arm throws all of that. I've seen rivers in the very first video for madden 15 and it wasn't there so I dunno I hope they put it back.

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                • charter04
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                  • May 2010
                  • 5740

                  #323
                  Re: Madden NFL 15 Gameplay Videos - Day 1

                  Originally posted by NDAlum
                  I definitely see your point about the inaccurate passes and I'm 100% on board with that! I also enjoyed seeing him miss a 50-yd FG.



                  If QB sneaks are that money (along with FB dives) I already have a plan to push for a rule against them in my league!

                  The way I stop them is run commit to the middle. I stopped a guy 3 in a row that way online.
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                  • SageInfinite
                    Stop The GOAT Talk
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 11896

                    #324
                    Re: Madden NFL 15 Gameplay Videos - Day 1

                    Originally posted by CM Hooe
                    I see what you're saying with the pre-snap stance, you're right that that's not triggering.

                    I've played with the Cowboys almost exclusively for the past five years though. To me, when he has time in the pocket, Romo throwing still looks like Romo throwing. The drop back and in-the-pocket stance looks the same to me too.
                    The stance looks to be the same in the pocket, but the throwing motion is not the sig one he has had.


                    The play at the 5:31 mark is the sig animation he's had in the game.


                    Also look at Big Ben, Peyton Manning, Eli Manning, all their stances and throwing motions are gone.

                    The stuff has been removed, they can deny it all they want, but it's not in the game. Not trying to come at them or insult them, but it's gone.
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                    • Mechcaniq
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                      • Jun 2014
                      • 26

                      #325
                      The snow on the field of the Bear Packer game is impressive, most impressive!

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                      • Mechcaniq
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                        • Jun 2014
                        • 26

                        #326
                        Looking forward to day2's videos, hopefully on last gen (PS3) consoles.

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                        • Malcd9583
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                          • Sep 2010
                          • 117

                          #327
                          Originally posted by Mechcaniq
                          Looking forward to day2's videos, hopefully on last gen (PS3) consoles.
                          I don't think you will see you last gen footage until someone with season ticket post it next weekend I think I have a ps4 so I have to wait until midnight on the 26th. It's all good though.

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                          • Shaffer26
                            MVP
                            • Feb 2009
                            • 1236

                            #328
                            Re: Madden NFL 15 Gameplay Videos - Day 1

                            Originally posted by fancyclaps
                            Did you ever think you may be too picky?
                            Absolutely not. Most, if not all, QB's need to have signature throwing motions. They have sig stances, shots in other games so why not in Madden? And to be honest, I shouldn't even be asking for sig motions at this point because they can't even nail down the basic mechanics of throwing a football.
                            Last edited by Shaffer26; 08-15-2014, 11:32 AM.

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                            • OhMrHanky
                              MVP
                              • Aug 2012
                              • 1898

                              #329
                              Re: Madden NFL 15 Gameplay Videos - Day 1

                              Originally posted by vision
                              It's quite possible that they are telling tall tales.. It's not like they haven't done it before. Look at the presentation of madden 25 at E3 2013 last year, and take a look at end product. They straight up lied to the consumer.

                              I'm sorry to sound so negative, but I only react to the patterns I've seen from this developer, and publisher. They'll either take 2 steps forward, and 1 step back. Or 1 step forward and 2 steps back. Pick your year for it. Either thier programming chops aren't up to par, or that ignite engine is a bunch of fluff, and/or doesn't apply to the madden series. If FIFA 15 is IGNITE, it looks like it's running on different code. Is it just me?
                              Absolutely! And it ain't just YOU!! lol. Fifa 14 is pretty amazing and was solid as a first title for next gen. It's not perfect, of course, but the physics tied to the animations + locomotion, etc. are all on point. I think fifa 15 is going to be phenomenal. That being said, madden 13 really seemed to rely much more heavily on Ignite or Infinity (which I was totally happy with, while others didn't seem to like it so much, so to each his own). 25 added in a lot of "canned" animations and it felt like they're basically moving back towards what was wrong with Madden, imo. Instead of "advancing" their engine with Ignite, it feels like they're merging their bad code with Ignite reducing Ignite's impact. This is all speculation, btw, but it is what I "feel" when I play their game, especially after playing fifa 14 for a few games. That game legitimately has set up their "physics universe" and dropped players in it and gave the ball it's own set of physics to work with the players, and everything just plays out realistically. Madden doesn't quite seem to want to do this. I think they have made decisions based on thinking that a full physics engine won't do everything they want it to, and that they must add certain animations to work with a football game. Personally, I think they should try harder to make the fifa physics engine work FOR football. Overall, they're making improvements and I'm looking forward to madden 15, but I agree with you, man, I'm definitely seeing them moving AWAY from what Ignite should be giving them. And, if it was me programming Madden, I would absolutely steal everything I could from Fifa right now, and simply give it the correct Football AI and add the necessary "rules" of football to warp fifa into madden. As fifa is a constant motion game with all players in constant motion, that is actually MUCH harder to code for, i would believe, than for football. The only major difference would be the specific actions of line play and blocking as that is not really done in soccer. So, those interactions would be the major addition. But, whatever, I'm a Madden CFM guy and I'll slider the hell out of the game if i have to to get what I want out of it, and I'm a Fifa online guy, so I'll get what I need out of EA as a whole. lol

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                              • drlw322
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                                • Jun 2007
                                • 1424

                                #330
                                Re: Madden NFL 15 Gameplay Videos - Day 1

                                Originally posted by SageInfinite
                                The stance looks to be the same in the pocket, but the throwing motion is not the sig one he has had.


                                The play at the 5:31 mark is the sig animation he's had in the game.


                                Also look at Big Ben, Peyton Manning, Eli Manning, all their stances and throwing motions are gone.

                                The stuff has been removed, they can deny it all they want, but it's not in the game. Not trying to come at them or insult them, but it's gone.
                                Hey sage if you watch the video of Landon bridge by QBJ on create a player you can see him cycle through all the player edit screens.

                                The 3rd one used to be sig animation and stance is now body proportion silder like ncaa used to be. Remember in the past even if you are not a QB it still shows up in the edit screen grayed out
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