Re: Running Tips

[pacman_legend]

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Im glad somebody understood what i was. I obviously i know i cant hold.r2 in this game... I wanted u to agree that r2 shouldnt activate the cpu to get off blocks. Madden was never that way, not sure what Madden u were playing. People are complaining for a reason. U think we are all dilusional? Im not having fun with this game...

[xylocaine]

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You know when online outside runs were overpowered last year that there would be an overreaction and an overcorrection by EA. And why is it only your runner is affected by true step? You're doing all of these ridiculously long turning animations and gathers while the defenders are flying around full speed engulfing your runner without even planting to change direction.

Exactly!

Last year running was way too OP. There has to be a happy medium. What I hate is when my opponent comes out in 3 DL against a heavy offensive formation with 5 OL TE and FB and I can't get 1-2 yards because as soon as I get within a yard or 2 of a defensive player he disengages his block and pulls me down from behind. We went from suction blocking to suction tackling.

[Gorilla Glass]

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Im glad somebody understood what i was. I obviously i know i cant hold.r2 in this game... I wanted u to agree that r2 shouldnt activate the cpu to get off blocks. Madden was never that way, not sure what Madden u were playing. People are complaining for a reason. U think we are all dilusional? Im not having fun with this game...

Sorry guy, but when you hold the turbo button, it will disengage blocks.

It's been that way since 2001 and to be honest, if it wasn't that way, people would be taking it to the house every time.

Guys in the NFL who run full speed to the hole, are on the practice squads until they learn how to be patient and wait for things to develop.

If you want to succeed in running the ball in Madden NFL 15, you'll stay off the acceleration/ turbo trigger until blocks fully develop or to you get in the hole.

If you continue to do it your way then you'll continue to get the same results.

You have options. Choose wisely my 'friend.'

[pacman_legend]

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Dude the game was not always like this wth lol.

[Gorilla Glass]

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Dude the game was not always like this wth lol.

The game is definitely different.

The AI seems more intelligent and actual stats do matter.

AI run defense hasn't been this aggressive since Madden 08.

There's definitely a learning curve to this year's Madden and that's why practice mode is so important.

[DonWuan]

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At least tall ol is blocking. Mines just jog up the field.

[sebennayx]

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I finally figured it out, yea outside runs are a no go this year.
You have to run in between the tackles and be patience.

You have to understand double team blocks, and notice where your Olineman are getting a push or where they are losing the battle.

Don't try to outrun a LB to the sideline, cause you will lose that battle every time.

That's not entirely true, if you aren't likely to beat defenders to the edge because they are setting the edge against your blockers, you WILL have opportunities to cut back and head north/south on outside runs. If your blocker holds the edge you can get outside but expect to be met at the sideline after only 3-5 yards. Watch your outside blocker to determine if you need to cut back ir if you can take the edge.

[Bootzilla]

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The game is definitely different.

The AI seems more intelligent and actual stats do matter.

AI run defense hasn't been this aggressive since Madden 08.

There's definitely a learning curve to this year's Madden and that's why practice mode is so important.

Everybody is probably playing a different game because people are using different sliders. So results are going to vary.

However, the AI isn't more intelligent. I can run a fullback jumbo package to the side where there are more blockers than defenders and two of my players will run by defenders to block air. Has absolutely nothing to do with turbo or anything else. Nothing really smart the defense did except not get blocked. And as far as having stats matter, this happens when my run blockers have an advantage (all green).

You know what works against aggressive defenses? Counters and traps. You can hardly run them in Madden this year because your blockers either run by the defender they're supposed to block. Or you get sucked into your blocker and stuck on his hip.

Look at the play art and where your runner is supposed to go. Do not take control of your runner right away and tell me what he does the majority of the time. In my experience they go right into the backside of the blocker and suctioned into a tackle instead of into the hole. So from the snap when you do control the runner you're fighting against the cpu auto controlling your runner into the wrong hole.

Again, different sliders and different speeds. Maybe I'll adjust down to slow. My frustration isn't that I can't get realistic stats its that I get realistic stats in an unrealistic unsatisfying way........

[Gorilla Glass]

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Everybody is probably playing a different game because people are using different sliders. So results are going to vary.

However, the AI isn't more intelligent. I can run a fullback jumbo package to the side where there are more blockers than defenders and two of my players will run by defenders to block air. Has absolutely nothing to do with turbo or anything else. Nothing really smart the defense did except not get blocked. And as far as having stats matter, this happens when my run blockers have an advantage (all green).

You know what works against aggressive defenses? Counters and traps. You can hardly run them in Madden this year because your blockers either run by the defender they're supposed to block. Or you get sucked into your blocker and stuck on his hip.

Look at the play art and where your runner is supposed to go. Do not take control of your runner right away and tell me what he does the majority of the time. In my experience they go right into the backside of the blocker and suctioned into a tackle instead of into the hole. So from the snap when you do control the runner you're fighting against the cpu auto controlling your runner into the wrong hole.

Again, different sliders and different speeds. Maybe I'll adjust down to slow. My frustration isn't that I can't get realistic stats its that I get realistic stats in an unrealistic unsatisfying way........

That's definitely one situation of the defense not being smart.

Anyways they set the edges pretty well and so forth. I play on default sliders, so I pretty much just practice to see what to do or not.

[xylocaine]

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Sorry guy, but when you hold the turbo button, it will disengage blocks.

It's been that way since 2001 and to be honest, if it wasn't that way, people would be taking it to the house every time.

Guys in the NFL who run full speed to the hole, are on the practice squads until they learn how to be patient and wait for things to develop.

If you want to succeed in running the ball in Madden NFL 15, you'll stay off the acceleration/ turbo trigger until blocks fully develop or to you get in the hole.

If you continue to do it your way then you'll continue to get the same results.

You have options. Choose wisely my 'friend.'

Even when I don't hold R2 when going through the hole I'm still seeing Crazy things on the replays. D-Linemen that sometimes are totally overmatched by their Offensive linemen completely disengaging and morphing into a tackle animation as soon as I get to the line of scrimmage.

And to your point, how realistic is to make sprinting give a super Blocksheding boost to the defense. Lower the BCV, Lower the carrying to make fumbles increase. Obviously make turning harder etc but why do you think it's normal to make linemen morph. To me its an overreaction to the op running from last year. I really hope they patch it. I don't expect running to work every time. But when the defense comes out in a quarter against a heavy running formation, I shouldn't get swallowed up at the line every time.

To my knowlege sprinting has never caused D-Linemen to turn into supermen. I'm loving the game, but this needs to be addressed. Go online and see that no one is running effectively which really makes the game feel more arcadey Because everyone is passing 90% of the thim, when that was why they wanted to improve defense to make it more realistic.

[Candymandagreat]

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I've played two games so far and have had different results with the running game. In my first game (Patriots v. Broncos) running the ball felt easy. The second game against the Chiefs, running the ball was almost impossible. I averaged less than 3 yard a carry (under two yards with Ridley). Both of the games were in Play Now and All-Pro difficulty.

look at who you're playing against....make observations of two games when you play the same team...each team has its strengths and weaknesses

[hanzsomehanz]

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No running: http://youtu.be/xX_qgVlyufg

the issue is in the video

Suction tackles are the new shoestring tackles in M15.

It is not sound programming to trigger blocksheds based on the ballcarries (sprint) right trigger respone - let the blockshed rating distinguish blockshed abilities.

Our runner in this vid had two gaping holes to fly thru - it was not neccessary to proceed w caution in this situation.

What is more alarming is not only was the tackler / pursuer out of position: the ballcarrier completely shutdown and his momentum was instantly halted in conjunction to whem the suction animation was triggered.

Running w patience has its place and so does running e a sensd of urgency: blocksheeding is a fundament that should not be linked to the ballcarriers use of speed burst - nor should pursuit boosts be randomly given out to halt big plays.

A crime is a crime and a wrong is a wrong; we need EA to right these wrongs in the programming and as a community we ought to protest the use of gimmicks vs gimmicks.

We used to have a blockshed and run reaction slider - we need these ratings to play out realistically and not by a universal default on gimmicks (suction tackles and OP shoestring tackles that cover Olympian long jump ranges, and insta blocksheds in response to speed bursts).

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[xylocaine]

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What really bothers me about the new "suction tackling" is how when you see a hole like in the above video your senses are through normal physics your momentum if nothing else would have you break through a tackle attempt that the DE would be able to try to make. But once the suction starts your runner slows down you are always tackled from behind and brought down with no regards to momentum etc.

[whoady4shoady]

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Dude the game was not always like this wth lol.

Agreed. I watched your video and have experienced the same thing. The fact that anyone can watch the video you posted and defend it, shows how desperate some have become in the football gaming community. This madden is the worst one I have ever played. You can tell they don't want you user controlling anyone on the field other than the QB and the dlineman. User control has been dumbed down and is woefully unresponsive.

Madden use to be bad enough when it was unrealistic, but at least somewhat fun to play. Now its unrealistic and a chore to play. How could this have gotten past the game testers, and why were the early youtubers quiet about this??

[cnh2os84]

Running Tips

Been trying to use L2 a bit, but still having lots of issues with running. Question for ya all, while holding L2 are you doing anything with the right stick or just moving with the left stick?


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