Madden NFL 15: Why The Presentation Hasn't Quite Arrived into Primetime

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  • DeuceDouglas
    Madden Dev Team
    • Apr 2010
    • 4297

    #31
    Re: Madden NFL 15: Presentation is One Step Forward, Four Steps Back

    Difference in opinion but I think one step forward, four backwards is an exaggeration.

    After seeing all the impressions and reviews saying commentary was horrible I was expecting it to be the same but I've actually been pleasantly surprised by it. I've hardly had any straight up wrong lines or player call-outs. It's not great and could be better but IMO it's really not too bad. Commentary in CFM is always going to suffer until they build the commentary around it.

    Outside of some awkward camera angles and replays that still need work, I really like the presentation. The halftime show is meh. I like the format of it but a lot of times it drags out and the replay angles kill it. It's a good base to build on IMO though. And maybe it's just playing with a headset but I'm loving the crowd and stadium sound. The reactions could definitely be better and more properly timed but playing at Arrowhead and pumping up the crowd and hearing them get louder is awesome and sounds great. I've played a bunch of games their and haven't had any "country-club" crowd experiences. Another thing I liked was playing on the road in Denver and having a third down and hearing the crowd get louder as the Undertaker bell rang.

    It's by no means perfect but it'd be really hard for me to say it's taken three steps backwards when there are so many things better than before.

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    • Dr. Banner
      Rookie
      • Oct 2013
      • 150

      #32
      Lol @ 4 steps back.

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      • Perfect Zero
        1B, OF
        • Jun 2005
        • 4012

        #33
        Re: Madden NFL 15: Presentation is One Step Forward, Four Steps Back

        I don't agree with this article at all. I think that Madden is finally at the point where presentation is spot on. I know that the guy they used for the halftime report is awful, but other than that the presentation is the best there has been in any football video game (and I'm a guy that thought the other game's presentation couldn't be beat).

        The problem with the presentation is that everything is going to be stale after a while. Even NBA 2kX, which has been noted for top notch broadcasting, repeats itself all of the time. We have a good base here...
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        • eaglepoint
          Rookie
          • Feb 2005
          • 21

          #34
          Ummm tell me again why did EA but the ESPN rights for if they're not gonna use it?

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          • Cusefan
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            • Oct 2003
            • 9820

            #35
            Re: Madden NFL 15: Presentation is One Step Forward, Four Steps Back

            Originally posted by eaglepoint
            Ummm tell me again why did EA but the ESPN rights for if they're not gonna use it?

            They used it for NCAA football. Since only one game a week is on ESPN, it would cost resources to make a ESPN style broadcast that would be better spent elsewhere.

            Add another announcing crew, improve the presentation a bit, and call it a day.


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            • CarryTheWeight
              MVP
              • Jul 2002
              • 1792

              #36
              Re: Madden NFL 15: Presentation is One Step Forward, Four Steps Back

              I honestly don't see what all the fuss is about with commentary. I've only heard wrong names/situations used after using Super Sim (which is to be expected), and have only heard the wrong name called once (an opposing QB who wasn't on the field).

              There is a fair amount of dynamic content in there that has never been in past Maddens. In a game I played last night, Nantz and Simms referenced that my quarterback was 75 and 25 yards away from breaking the single-game passing record. I found that pretty cool.

              Is it perfect? Not at all. Could improvements be made? Absolutely. Should they start from scratch? Absolutely not.

              The reason why the Madden franchise seems as unstable as the Buffalo Bills these days is because they feel the need, either from fans or internally, to scrap promising features entirely after only a few years instead of improving them.

              While that happens, "legacy issues" continue to surface so it's apparent these games truly never have been "built from the ground up".
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              • Retropyro
                Pro
                • Jul 2010
                • 796

                #37
                Originally posted by Perfect Zero
                I don't agree with this article at all. I think that Madden is finally at the point where presentation is spot on. I know that the guy they used for the halftime report is awful, but other than that the presentation is the best there has been in any football video game (and I'm a guy that thought the other game's presentation couldn't be beat).

                The problem with the presentation is that everything is going to be stale after a while. Even NBA 2kX, which has been noted for top notch broadcasting, repeats itself all of the time. We have a good base here...
                100% agree with this. Everyone seems to hold NBA 2K's presentation up as the gold standard. While it is great, the commentary get incredibly repetitive very quickly.
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                • dkp23
                  Rookie
                  • May 2008
                  • 289

                  #38
                  Re: Madden NFL 15: Presentation is One Step Forward, Four Steps Back

                  presentation isn't very good, i wish i can skip them all and it wont let me as quickly. It is as if they are forcing me to listen to the half time show and crap.

                  The announcers spew the same thing over and over again in the same game becomes repetitive. Even with all this, i dont even care, i rather them focus on the gameplay,

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                  • Skyboxer
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                    • Jul 2002
                    • 20302

                    #39
                    Re: Madden NFL 15: Presentation is One Step Forward, Four Steps Back

                    SMH at OS anymore. ..

                    So glad I grew up from before consoles and can simply game and enjoy things.
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                    • SageInfinite
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                      • Jul 2002
                      • 11896

                      #40
                      Re: Madden NFL 15: Presentation is One Step Forward, Four Steps Back

                      They're halfway there on presentation. Some things are awesome, some are head scratchers. Madden is hit or miss in every area, and even with the hits, they aren't consistent. There's always something that makes me say "damn that was pretty awesome" then the very next moment I'm like "WTF!?!?". Never fails. Tiburon hates me.
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                      • DrYCeLL
                        Rookie
                        • Apr 2011
                        • 50

                        #41
                        So not only is the title hilariously false and not even an accurate representation of the article, the author can't even spell the announcer's names right and we're supposed to take this article seriously? Nope.

                        I love this presentation. It's by far the best Madden has ever been. Coming back from "commercials" after a quarter and getting a "The NFL is brought to you by Papa John's, better pizza" on a wide shot of the field is brilliant. The injury time-out fade to black is also great. The highlight packages shown in the 2nd half are awesome, and all the camera angles sprinkled in are refreshing. The low angle camera on the opening kick-off is really cool, I wish it triggered for the 2nd half kick too.

                        I wouldn't hate it if they kept Nantz and Simms, but those guys need to record tons more dialog. And to say this commentary is the worst in the genre is also a bit much. I love me some MLB The Show, but the commentary for it is beyond stale, terribly predictable, and flat boring. At least Nantz and Simms sound like they recorded some of their lines together.

                        Seriously though, just because it's "cool" to rip on Madden doesn't mean articles like this need to be posted. This belongs with the rest of the amateur blog posts that barely get featured on the front page. Does the presentation need more work? Yes, but EA gets a pass in that department this year due to the sheer volume of improvements they made. Yeah, Nantz or Simms makes a wrong comment now and again, but I can just chalk that up to human error. I'd lose count in a hurry if I tried to list all the times I've actually corrected them on CBS, so it's just par for the course for me.

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                        • mt8732
                          Rookie
                          • Jan 2013
                          • 97

                          #42
                          Nance and sims are horrible in real life and i feel like madden captures that perfectly lol. No seriously tho nobody will top pat and john but i think tirico and gruden would definitely be an upgrade. Gruden has so much more knowledge of the game and could even share some input for gameplay

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                          • Richuation
                            Rookie
                            • May 2010
                            • 40

                            #43
                            I really like the Halftime report... why no post game report? its weird.

                            The post game report would make for a great clip to share on our CFM websites.

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                            • JKSportsGamer1984
                              MVP
                              • May 2014
                              • 1411

                              #44
                              Originally posted by Bull_Dozer
                              They need to hire a dozen no name (see: cheap) voice actors and record a TON of commentary. No one buys Madden because Simms and Nance are in it.
                              This! I know I'm probably in the minority but I miss the radio guy from Madden 06 - 08. He was energetic & made me feel like I was in the game as opposed to watching it. EA needs to scrap the Sims & Nantz experiment. Sims is ok but Nantz makes my ears bleed lol. The main problem is how EA puts the commentary together. I thought Gus Johnson was a wasted opportunity because EA doesn't seem to know how to program commentary to be seemless ala NBA 2K basketball. They should just hire some generic guys that they wouldn't have to pay as much & use those resources to improve other parts of the game.

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                              • Anaxamander
                                Imperator
                                • Mar 2003
                                • 2795

                                #45
                                Re: Madden NFL 15: Presentation is One Step Forward, Four Steps Back

                                FOUR steps back? No way. This presentation is awesome. I would call the commentary passable at best, but in no way does passable commentary overshadow all the great strides Madden '15 has made in regards to presentation.

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