CPU Quarterbacks taking sacks has broken this game....

[Ueauvan]

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the same happens with Kap. in my ccm as coach mode playing owner, Kap has Sense Pressure Paranoid (think only trait you cant develop) and i got him throw away trait, and he is a bit mobile (sarcasm). with what is the best oline in the game in my ccm he takes dumb sacks instead of throwing away or scrambling or finding the dump off receiver. i have no screens in my custom playbook, these are pa or shotgun and it is annoying

[treq21]

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Play on All madden. It doesnt happen there. As soon as i switched I saw the difference.

[Jm0ney2001]

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It happens on all madden but since you finally stopped the cpu you don't care as much.

[DoubleZ_3]

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Curious. What difficulty are you playing on? I'm playing all madden and I get 1-3 sacks a game. And the qb rarely misses an open guy it's almost too hard to defend the pass

[treq21]

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It happens on all madden but since you finally stopped the cpu you don't care as much.

I havent seen it happen on All Madden at all. in fact i struggle to get sacks on AM.

[treq21]

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Curious. What difficulty are you playing on? I'm playing all madden and I get 1-3 sacks a game. And the qb rarely misses an open guy it's almost too hard to defend the pass

If you set ACC on 5, you will see missed passes on AM

[pjburrage]

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This issue can really rile me.

Even on All Madden (with CPU Pass Block at 100) it occasionally rears its ugly head - sacked Eli Manning 9 times in one game with the Rams (with Quinn on IR and Donald also out).

Think this is a combination of several factors that makes it worse as the season goes on.

1. CPU AI is dreadful meaning the QBs hang onto the ball too long, or don't scramble out of the pocket often enough when faced with pressure.
2. Therefore the DL get a handful of sacks
3. This means their confidence starts to rocket (even with a loss)
4. The DL then become too overpowered for the OL
5. The DL then get more sacks
(and go back to 3 and repeat ad infinitum)

Stuff like the screen plays issue and even some of the suction tackling - had one sack on Russell Wilson where he's scrambling out of the pocket, and one of my DL dives to tackle him and sort of warps into a position and angle in which he catches him before he can get past the LOS - don't help either.

[T5063]

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Sacks work fine on all-madden default. Its when you start messing with the sliders that qb ai goes down the tubes. Not sure which one but I bet its the accuracy slider or possibly wr cartching, coverage or one of the penalty sliders (IG?).

I play all madden default and don't get a lot of sacks, usually 1-4 sacks a game. If I get pressure on the qb he will throw it away, make bad passes etc.

Also, I think a lot of you guys are expecting the qbs to be flawless. If you watch football for any period of time you'll see that qbs make boneheaded moves all the time, holding on the ball too long and taking sacks because they're trying to make a play. I see plays all the time in the real NFL where I think that if that happened in Madden people would complain about it on OS lol.

Anyways, I'm not saying there isn't a sack problem, there sure is one on the lower difficulty levels and when you start moving the sliders but I dont think there is one on default all madden.

Also, its hard to judge from those pictures what was really happening during those plays. You can't see the plays in motion, how fast the players were moving, where the qb was looking (did he have time to see the open recievers). Whenever I get a sack, I got back to the replay and watch the play to see if it was realistic, 19/20 times its something that you're likely to see on the TV on Sundays.

[pats3912]

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you can thank everyone for complaining that they couldn't play man coverage. Now the man coverage is too tight which is making the CPU qb's paranoid to throw the ball.


I find that raising the cpu pass block and lower human pass coverage, and human int almost to zero does help so even if they hold on to the ball a long time it gives them an extra couple seconds to throw it. I'm still averageing 4 to 7 sacks a game though. which is better than the 10-12 sacks I was getting when the update first came out.

[KingV2k3]

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Sacks work fine on all-madden default.

What exactly is AM Default in M15?

Back in the day, it was HUM @ 25 / CPU @75, but I believe it was changed to HUM @ 25 / CPU @ 50 for M25...

Thanks for the clarification!

[T5063]

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What exactly is AM Default in M15?

Back in the day, it was HUM @ 25 / CPU @75, but I believe it was changed to HUM @ 25 / CPU @ 50 for M25...

Thanks for the clarification!

Everything at 50 including penalties and threshold. I play with fatigue and injuries at 60.

[KingV2k3]

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Everything at 50 including penalties and threshold. I play with fatigue and injuries at 60.

If I'm understanding this correctly, you're saying it's all 50's for BOTH the CPU and HUM, correct?

If that's the case, then it's really the same slider "proportions" as AM (50/50) with a boost to the AI only for CPU...

Makes it much easier to balance on that level than in previous years where there was also a pronounced "slider tilt"...

Interesting...thanks!

[rudyjuly2]

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Makes it much easier to balance on that level than in previous years where there was also a pronounced "slider tilt"...

Interesting...thanks!

Not if the sliders are so crappy that they do next to nothing. The blocking sliders are almost useless. WR catch does next to nothing. On many of them if you set it at 0 or 100 without you knowing and had you play for 15 minutes I bet you couldn't tell the difference. This area needs a TON of work.

All-Madden is definitely better than All-Pro since the QB is smarter and gets the ball out sooner. But the cpu QB logic is not done well. Virtually every QB uses the same logic and the only difference between QBs is the accuracy rating. That leads to robo QB and generic gameplay. I hope EA focuses on this next year.

[Mike Lowe]

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But sacks are so awesome!

Sincerely,

12 Year Old Madden Players Everywhere

[darkknightrises]

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I have tried to play the game on all madden to see if it helps but I just don't have the skill for all madden. I just played a game today on all madden and lost 40-14 and I throw 4 int and had 1 fumble to. I have tried 2 games on all madden and in the 2 games I have had 7 sacks told so it seemeds to work but I just don't have the skill for all madden. In the 2 games I have thrown 7 int and had 2 fumbles and been out scored 75- 31. Surpirisly the CPU completion % was not to bad its just I cant pass on all madden. I guss I will go back to all pro with both IG and RTP at 100 and see if that helps. The first game I tried with that I had 5 sacks.