CPU Quarterbacks taking sacks has broken this game....

[British Bronco]

Re: CPU Quarterbacks taking sacks has broken this game....

I have tried to play the game on all madden to see if it helps but I just don't have the skill for all madden. I just played a game today on all madden and lost 40-14 and I throw 4 int and had 1 fumble to. I have tried 2 games on all madden and in the 2 games I have had 7 sacks told so it seemeds to work but I just don't have the skill for all madden. In the 2 games I have thrown 7 int and had 2 fumbles and been out scored 75- 31. Surpirisly the CPU completion % was not to bad its just I cant pass on all madden. I guss I will go back to all pro with both IG and RTP at 100 and see if that helps. The first game I tried with that I had 5 sacks.

I'm not a great Madden player by any means. I know the basic strategy and tactics of Football, but I'm not especially good with the controls. But I'm surviving quite nicely on All-Madden thanks to extreme slider adjustments, and along with CPU PBK at 0 am finding the sack issue is largely (if not completely) dealt with - enough to enjoy the game finally at any rate.

So it would be a shame if you missed out - go onto All-Madden with Normal speed, put all Hum Sliders to 100 and all CPU sliders to 0. Hopefully you'll soon get comfortable enough at that level to start adjusting your sliders away from those extremes.

Good luck!

[darkknightrises]

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I'm not a great Madden player by any means. I know the basic strategy and tactics of Football, but I'm not especially good with the controls. But I'm surviving quite nicely on All-Madden thanks to extreme slider adjustments, and along with CPU PBK at 0 am finding the sack issue is largely (if not completely) dealt with - enough to enjoy the game finally at any rate.

So it would be a shame if you missed out - go onto All-Madden with Normal speed, put all Hum Sliders to 100 and all CPU sliders to 0. Hopefully you'll soon get comfortable enough at that level to start adjusting your sliders away from those extremes.

Good luck!

Pass blocking at 0 for the CPU that has got to be sack city. While I am finding with my sliders that I have tired with on all madden that I am having like no time to throw the ball. Last game I got sacked like 6 times and had sever other passes where I had no time to pass. I even had like 2 play action passes where I got hit has soon has I turned around after the fake. I also had a running play where my qb couldn't even get to the rb for the hand off with out getting tackled. I may have to try putting my pass blocking up and try to play at normal game speed has I was playing on fast when I was playing on all pro.

[British Bronco]

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Pass blocking at 0 for the CPU that has got to be sack city.

That's the wierd thing - you would have thought so - putting CPU Blk to 0 should be a disaster. But in fact its not. At least not in my testing and that of several other slider testers. See for example Josh's slider thread.

For some reason it encourages the CPU QB to get rid of the ball earlier.

As for getting sacked too fast when you are on offence - I hear you - happened to me a lot when I switched to AM as well. So I hiked all my HUM Sliders to 100 and all the CPU sliders to 0 - which meant I could release passes within 2-3 seconds with relative confidence. I'm working now on bringing down those sliders as I'm starting to get too many yards on offence now.

If it also helps try culling your playbook to 40 or so pass plays - and practice with them against different looks - Cover 2, Cover 3, Man etc. You'll get a good feel for who is likely to be open at any time. One other thing though - I have had to cull quite a few Play Action passes as on AM I do tend to get sacked too much, and there's nothing I can do about it.

I hope it works for you - as for me the sack issues was killing the game and I now feel I can finally start a CFM.

[Davon_A_Brown]

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But sacks are so awesome!

Sincerely,

12 Year Old Madden Players Everywhere

Well I'm a 21 year old Madden player and sacks are awesome. Being from Detroit it sucks that I actually have to force myself not to sack the QB. It takes all the fun out of playing as the #1 defense.

[wordtobigbird]

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Lol at everyone saying play on All-Madden, this doesn't happen. Like this isn't an issue. We all know there are a lot of balancing issues with All-Madden and someone shouldn't HAVE TO play on the hardest level possible just to get the QB to play decent. How much sense does that make...

[rudyjuly2]

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Lol at everyone saying play on All-Madden, this doesn't happen. Like this isn't an issue. We all know there are a lot of balancing issues with All-Madden and someone shouldn't HAVE TO play on the hardest level possible just to get the QB to play decent. How much sense does that make...

You shouldn't have to but in this case you do. They need to add a QB awareness slider for all difficulties so we can make the cpu QB smarter on All-Pro and not have to make the move. I doubt we'll get that though given how little attention sliders get from this Madden dev team.

[wordtobigbird]

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You shouldn't have to but in this case you do. They need to add a QB awareness slider for all difficulties so we can make the cpu QB smarter on All-Pro and not have to make the move. I doubt we'll get that though given how little attention sliders get from this Madden dev team.

I hear you, but playing on All-Madden doesn't fix the issue. It just hides it because the CPU is juiced up. Even with the CPU juiced up and the unfair advantages that open up in the rest of the game the CPU QB's will STILL take dumb sacks. It doesn't fix the issue. It's a lot harder to get them to because they will be in robo QB mode but if you call the correct defense you will see these issues. If you change the sliders, which we can't understand, you will open up other issues. I've been playing FIFA and NBA 2k. Madden AI is broken. Period. It's the only game of the three you can't play on whatever difficulty setting you want lol.

Another point about number of sacks. People saying they only got 7 in 2 games or they average less than 4 a game so its okay on All-Madden. If you are averaging 3 sacks a game you have the best pass rush in the league... Most teams don't get more than 3 a game. Plenty of teams go weeks and weeks without getting a sack. So All-Madden doesn't fix any issue. Stop pretending it does. But i'm beating a dead horse so I'll see you guys come Madden 16.

[rudyjuly2]

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I hear you, but playing on All-Madden doesn't fix the issue. It just hides it because the CPU is juiced up. Even with the CPU juiced up and the unfair advantages that open up in the rest of the game the CPU QB's will STILL take dumb sacks. It doesn't fix the issue. It's a lot harder to get them to because they will be in robo QB mode but if you call the correct defense you will see these issues. If you change the sliders, which we can't understand, you will open up other issues. I've been playing FIFA and NBA 2k. Madden AI is broken. Period. It's the only game of the three you can't play on whatever difficulty setting you want lol.

Another point about number of sacks. People saying they only got 7 in 2 games or they average less than 4 a game so its okay on All-Madden. If you are averaging 3 sacks a game you have the best pass rush in the league... Most teams don't get more than 3 a game. Plenty of teams go weeks and weeks without getting a sack. So All-Madden doesn't fix any issue. Stop pretending it does. But i'm beating a dead horse so I'll see you guys come Madden 16.

I agree and disagree. All-Madden does have smarter QBs imo and with the cpu boosted pass blocking it does help reduce the sack totals. There is no way to deny it's better than All-Pro. Is it perfect? No. Does robo QB happen more often? Yes.

I understand your frustration. I'm more frustrated by the ease of running through the A gap since DTs never get off blocks in the run game. Short yardage is automatic and I'm guessing most user players in Madden are near the top of the league in 3rd down conversions as a result. Madden is flawed and we have to either find a way to accept those flaws or trade in the game. I could not accept the flaws in last year's game and traded it in early. So far I've been able to accept them this year.

[wordtobigbird]

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I agree and disagree. All-Madden does have smarter QBs imo and with the cpu boosted pass blocking it does help reduce the sack totals. There is no way to deny it's better than All-Pro. Is it perfect? No. Does robo QB happen more often? Yes.

I understand your frustration. I'm more frustrated by the ease of running through the A gap since DTs never get off blocks in the run game. Short yardage is automatic and I'm guessing most user players in Madden are near the top of the league in 3rd down conversions as a result. Madden is flawed and we have to either find a way to accept those flaws or trade in the game. I could not accept the flaws in last year's game and traded it in early. So far I've been able to accept them this year.

I don't mean to seem like I'm coming at you or anything. I agree with everything you're saying.

[rudyjuly2]

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I don't mean to seem like I'm coming at you or anything. I agree with everything you're saying.

Me too. I totally understand your points.

I'm afraid with all the online emphasis by EA, the user vs cpu play will never get addressed properly. Many things need fixing.

(btw I can't use the Like button at work lol. Something wrong with my browsers so my omission there isn't intentional).

[burter]

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I stop playing madden, but reading over this I have to disagree with people saying all-madden sacks are less. It all depends on what you call. I put pass block up high, run block at 70 & fumbles at 85(because the cpu can't run to save their life and this seems to help it) and changed all the cpu's qb ratings and attributes for the better. Still get sacks, especially if you call any kind of 5 or 6 man blitz. Should I have to put house rules all over the place so the game plays right? I play as LB and when I see a screen pass I let the cpu complete it so they wouldn't take a sack instead of covering the RB and I hardly ever blitz(and I love blitzing ). To me that is stupid. So I have to put in house rules to actually play this game because the game is too stupid to think for itself? Does anyone else see what's wrong with that? I mean are we just going to keep doing this year in year out and coming up with every excuse in the book on why we should play madden like this? To me we are just being laugh at....... Sacks are not fixed on all-madden, it just looks like it is.

[DoubleZ_3]

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Not if the sliders are so crappy that they do next to nothing. The blocking sliders are almost useless. WR catch does next to nothing. On many of them if you set it at 0 or 100 without you knowing and had you play for 15 minutes I bet you couldn't tell the difference. This area needs a TON of work.

All-Madden is definitely better than All-Pro since the QB is smarter and gets the ball out sooner. But the cpu QB logic is not done well. Virtually every QB uses the same logic and the only difference between QBs is the accuracy rating. That leads to robo QB and generic gameplay. I hope EA focuses on this next year.

Idk, for me all the sliders work lol. I can easily tell I lowered pass block by just 5 for myself and was getting sacked like crazy. I notice it

[DoubleZ_3]

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I have tried to play the game on all madden to see if it helps but I just don't have the skill for all madden. I just played a game today on all madden and lost 40-14 and I throw 4 int and had 1 fumble to. I have tried 2 games on all madden and in the 2 games I have had 7 sacks told so it seemeds to work but I just don't have the skill for all madden. In the 2 games I have thrown 7 int and had 2 fumbles and been out scored 75- 31. Surpirisly the CPU completion % was not to bad its just I cant pass on all madden. I guss I will go back to all pro with both IG and RTP at 100 and see if that helps. The first game I tried with that I had 5 sacks.

Mess with sliders. And who were you playing as and against? If you were a power house team losing then you're probably right but if you played as a bad team that's realistic.

[DoubleZ_3]

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I stop playing madden, but reading over this I have to disagree with people saying all-madden sacks are less. It all depends on what you call. I put pass block up high, run block at 70 & fumbles at 85(because the cpu can't run to save their life and this seems to help it) and changed all the cpu's qb ratings and attributes for the better. Still get sacks, especially if you call any kind of 5 or 6 man blitz. Should I have to put house rules all over the place so the game plays right? I play as LB and when I see a screen pass I let the cpu complete it so they wouldn't take a sack instead of covering the RB and I hardly ever blitz(and I love blitzing ). To me that is stupid. So I have to put in house rules to actually play this game because the game is too stupid to think for itself? Does anyone else see what's wrong with that? I mean are we just going to keep doing this year in year out and coming up with every excuse in the book on why we should play madden like this? To me we are just being laugh at....... Sacks are not fixed on all-madden, it just looks like it is.

10 games. 2 sacks max each game that looks fixed and is fixed lol

[wordtobigbird]

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Me too. I totally understand your points.

I'm afraid with all the online emphasis by EA, the user vs cpu play will never get addressed properly. Many things need fixing.

(btw I can't use the Like button at work lol. Something wrong with my browsers so my omission there isn't intentional).

I don't think it will. Not only because of the focus shift though. I think they will continue improving the CPU AI but the foundation itself is broken. I don't see them rebuilding the way the game works to do it right. And I don't know if they would even do it right if tried. I'm sure its hard to recreate the game of football with 0s and 1s in a computer. There really is a lot more going on than Baseball or Soccer or Basketball and even the AI in those games gets ripped to shreds with complaints. But the majority still see FIFA, 2k and The Show as great games and great representations of their sports. The football foundation is broken in Madden which is the saddest part.

For example, the most basic thing for a defender is probably gap assignments. Madden doesn't even have that realistically implement. A QB should be able to make reads as simply as a pick and roll for a PG. If Madden was 2k, the pick and roll would be broken. The PG would continually ignore the open roll man and throw interceptions trying to pass to the wrong player. Unless you play on Hall of Fame that is.