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  • wordtobigbird
    MVP
    • Sep 2008
    • 4385

    #46
    Re: CPU Quarterbacks taking sacks has broken this game....

    Originally posted by DoubleZ_3
    Idk, for me all the sliders work lol. I can easily tell I lowered pass block by just 5 for myself and was getting sacked like crazy. I notice it
    So you've done with no one else could and gotten Madden sliders to work properly across the board? Please enlighten me. People have said clearly that they put pass block at 100 for CPU and it doesn't result in less sacks. But when you do it, it works?

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    • wordtobigbird
      MVP
      • Sep 2008
      • 4385

      #47
      Re: CPU Quarterbacks taking sacks has broken this game....

      Originally posted by DoubleZ_3
      10 games. 2 sacks max each game that looks fixed and is fixed lol
      For YOU and YOUR play style and the plays YOU call.. Stop acting like everyone is seeing ghost. Please, it's very condescending. The issue is not fixed. Especially if you have to use YOUR sliders and that's the only way to do it.

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      • booker21
        MVP
        • Jun 2003
        • 4928

        #48
        Re: CPU Quarterbacks taking sacks has broken this game....

        I dont`get it. I just ran Madden25 and i had 42 sacks in the entire season. This was not an issue last year. What they changed?

        The idea of a Software V1, V2, V3, is get that software better and, bettewe. Fix bugs, and add features.
        In madden, they fix bugs, and they create New bugs, and they add features and they removed Features. Sometimes i feel they do it on purpose.

        This is not even a new engine.

        SMH.
        English, is not my first language.

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        • LowerWolf
          Hall Of Fame
          • Jun 2006
          • 12268

          #49
          Re: CPU Quarterbacks taking sacks has broken this game....

          Originally posted by booker21
          I dont`get it. I just ran Madden25 and i had 42 sacks in the entire season. This was not an issue last year. What they changed?

          The idea of a Software V1, V2, V3, is get that software better and, bettewe. Fix bugs, and add features.
          In madden, they fix bugs, and they create New bugs, and they add features and they removed Features. Sometimes i feel they do it on purpose.

          This is not even a new engine.

          SMH.
          Weird. I got tons of sacks on M25. McDonald had like 28 alone for me one season with Aldon and Brooks not too far behind. It's actually been better for me on M15.

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          • treq21
            Banned
            • Mar 2005
            • 419

            #50
            Re: CPU Quarterbacks taking sacks has broken this game....

            If EA would just release a simple document explaining what sliders do what, including penalty sliders, they could clear up all this confusion.

            But we all know that will never happen. they will continue to let us walk around like blind men in a dark room. Why? Who knows.

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            • booker21
              MVP
              • Jun 2003
              • 4928

              #51
              Re: CPU Quarterbacks taking sacks has broken this game....

              I don`t think they work. i mean i played from 0 to 100 on PB department and i still get sacks. There are no more options there.

              pass rush slider was removed, but i still wonder if they did work at all.

              Sliders need to be more effective. 0 should mean 0 and 100 should be 100 with all in between possible.
              English, is not my first language.

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              • wordtobigbird
                MVP
                • Sep 2008
                • 4385

                #52
                Re: CPU Quarterbacks taking sacks has broken this game....

                Originally posted by treq21
                If EA would just release a simple document explaining what sliders do what, including penalty sliders, they could clear up all this confusion.

                But we all know that will never happen. they will continue to let us walk around like blind men in a dark room. Why? Who knows.
                I don't even know if they could. I doubt any developer would ever admit how much the penalty sliders effect gameplay yet never get called.

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                • T5063
                  Pro
                  • Oct 2010
                  • 802

                  #53
                  Re: CPU Quarterbacks taking sacks has broken this game....

                  Originally posted by treq21
                  If EA would just release a simple document explaining what sliders do what, including penalty sliders, they could clear up all this confusion.

                  But we all know that will never happen. they will continue to let us walk around like blind men in a dark room. Why? Who knows.
                  Why? Probably because it would expose what an utter mess the game is underneath the hood.

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                  • Fist Of Kings
                    Pro
                    • Oct 2009
                    • 793

                    #54
                    Re: CPU Quarterbacks taking sacks has broken this game....

                    Originally posted by T5063
                    Why? Probably because it would expose what an utter mess the game is underneath the hood.

                    Exactly. I can't think of any other reason why they would make 'penalty' sliders effect both penalties(some are still rarely called even if set to 100) and gameplay when they should just be separate. It wasn't always this way, and talk about a change for the worse, because now a lot of us have a bunch of different theories, and we're still not sure which slider exactly does what.

                    "Lower the accuracy...that'll slow down robo qbs...no, if you lower accuracy the qbs will hold on to the ball for too long...lower pass reaction, raise coverage for a more realistic game...if you want to see less sacks, play on fast or very fast."

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                    • Rickyfins75
                      Rookie
                      • Oct 2014
                      • 264

                      #55
                      Re: CPU Quarterbacks taking sacks has broken this game....

                      Hey guys ive had allthese issues too. There are many factors that cause the sack issue. Ive been doing lots of testing with many sets to get a good gameplay, realistic stats and sacks. These are the sliders i came up with they are a hybrid of armor and sword, quinn, jarrod, mvpeterson and using rushinplayallgames theory on def coverage and reaction. Ive tried anything and everything believe me. Hope this helps fellas its all madden but its not too difficult id almost call it all madden lite
                      No qb edits, no def icons, no assists
                      All madden fast speed
                      15 min qtrs 15 sec runoff
                      Inj 50 Fat 60 Thres 0


                      Aarons subs (you can find them in jarrods and mvpetersons sliders)


                      Special teams
                      50 35 40 60 50


                      Penalties are same as mvpeterson


                      Qb acc 15/15
                      Pass blk 70/100
                      Wr cth 45/45
                      Run block 0/5
                      Fumbles 35/35
                      Def pass reaction 20/20
                      Ints 40/40
                      Def pass coverage 85/85
                      Tackling 40/40


                      Check these out use them as a base set and check out all the above names they have good sets. im personally seeing good animations, solid gameplay, the right amount of sacks and penalties, a good variety of games and accurate stats.
                      Fortis et fidus

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                      • Rickyfins75
                        Rookie
                        • Oct 2014
                        • 264

                        #56
                        Re: CPU Quarterbacks taking sacks has broken this game....

                        This is the page to see the video for the coverage/reaction theory. In his video playlist under "ps4 madden 15 sliders." His sliders are for all pro but his ideas about sacks are good. There is no sweet spot because we all play different. Ea says theres no sack issue because they test everything on default without sliders. Using fast speed helps, not using def icons helps too but there has to be somewhat of an offensive/defensive balance in the sliders to get a near perfect gameplay across the board. With my sliders above i get 4-6 sack games and i get 1-3 more often. I see wonderful animations and qbs do take shots because they have the time to do so. The lower tier qbs stay in the right comp % too. Its all how you play and who you play.

                        http://www.operationsports.com/forum...allslider.html
                        Fortis et fidus

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                        • Rickyfins75
                          Rookie
                          • Oct 2014
                          • 264

                          #57
                          Re: CPU Quarterbacks taking sacks has broken this game....

                          I use no qb edits because the cpu qbs all start acting the same and repetitive its worse than 7-9 sacks a game lol
                          Fortis et fidus

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                          • Rickyfins75
                            Rookie
                            • Oct 2014
                            • 264

                            #58
                            Re: CPU Quarterbacks taking sacks has broken this game....

                            The page i use for my penalties and subs.His set was the most i took from as a base but remember everyones gameplay varies and you have to really research at similarities in sliders on all pro vs all madden. Dont take an all pro set and think itll work on all madden its a disaster lol I hope my set helps anyone with the sack issue. That and bad sim stats were close to being a game killer for me



                            http://www.operationsports.com/forum...addressed.html
                            Fortis et fidus

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                            • RumbleCard
                              MVP
                              • Aug 2007
                              • 1229

                              #59
                              Re: CPU Quarterbacks taking sacks has broken this game....

                              Originally posted by T5063
                              Why? Probably because it would expose what an utter mess the game is underneath the hood.
                              Heck the user could fix these issues if the sliders did what they are supposed to do and worked correctly.

                              We're going on 3 years of mislabeled or backwards sliders. Sliders that have unintended consequences on other portions of the game or sliders that simply have no effect at all.

                              It might take some work but if they had properly working sliders this game could have been miles better than where its at.

                              So frustrating...

                              Sliders...for the love of god just fix them already.
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                              • NimitsTexan
                                Banned
                                • Mar 2007
                                • 806

                                #60
                                Re: CPU Quarterbacks taking sacks has broken this game....

                                Originally posted by RumbleCard

                                Sliders...for the love of god just fix them already.
                                Sliders will be one of the features for Madden 18 . . . just wait and see.

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