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  • PeoplesChampGB
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    • May 2012
    • 6003

    #271
    Re: Some Madden NFL 16 Features Revealed, Pre-Order & Deluxe Edition Details

    Originally posted by roadman
    I really don't pay much attention to the Twitterworld or Youtube world. I've heard of the split, but that's all I've heard and all I care to know.

    I listened to first 38 minutes and I need to listen to the rest. I was cautiously optimistic listening to what I did and Sage has me interested in listening to the whole thing. and I trust Sages opinion in here. I recall within those 38 minutes one of the stated that they discovered something in 16 that isn't even marketed and they asked the team if they were going to market it and EA said no.

    Every year, seems like people bring up the wining and dining aspect, but people also forget these guys are going down on their own time and trying to represent the community. ie their own personal vacation time away from work, family time...(there are sacrifices they endure to be wined and dined)

    There are a few GCers I will listen to and respect. They don't tell you to go out and buy the game.
    Agreed on them making personal sacrifices. Disagree on them representing the community, well at least representing me. I didn't elect them and I don't pay their salaries. No offense to them in any way.
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    • SageInfinite
      Stop The GOAT Talk
      • Jul 2002
      • 11896

      #272
      Re: Some Madden NFL 16 Features Revealed, Pre-Order & Deluxe Edition Details

      Originally posted by NDAlum
      Yea there is no way I believe any of the game changers. I don't blame them for doing what they do, but I don't buy it.


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      Totally agree. Just was putting the info out there that I had heard.
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      • roadman
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        • Aug 2003
        • 26339

        #273
        Re: Some Madden NFL 16 Features Revealed, Pre-Order & Deluxe Edition Details

        Originally posted by PeoplesChampGB
        Agreed on them making personal sacrifices. Disagree on them representing the community, well at least representing me. I didn't elect them and I don't pay their salaries. No offense to them in any way.
        That's fair enough.

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        • SageInfinite
          Stop The GOAT Talk
          • Jul 2002
          • 11896

          #274
          Re: Some Madden NFL 16 Features Revealed, Pre-Order & Deluxe Edition Details

          Originally posted by roadman
          I would tend to disagree with this.

          All QB's played like Aaron Rodgers, they were just too accurate. One needed to nerf all the sliders to get the AI QB's to play like they should.

          Also, if QB's were pressured, the AI QB would not take off and run or throw the ball out of bounds. Not very smart QB AI.
          Not to mention some QB's would get annihilated and still complete perfect passes. I hated that. To get pressure on a QB and have him not affected in the slightest. Passing game hasn't felt decent since the PS2 days imo.
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          • SageInfinite
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            • Jul 2002
            • 11896

            #275
            Re: Some Madden NFL 16 Features Revealed, Pre-Order & Deluxe Edition Details

            Originally posted by roadman
            I really don't pay much attention to the Twitterworld or Youtube world. I've heard of the split, but that's all I've heard and all I care to know.

            I listened to first 38 minutes and I need to listen to the rest. I was cautiously optimistic listening to what I did and Sage has me interested in listening to the whole thing. and I trust Sages opinion in here. I recall within those 38 minutes one of the them stated that they discovered something in 16 that isn't even marketed and they asked the team if they were going to market it and EA said no.

            Every year, seems like people bring up the wining and dining aspect, but people also forget these guys are going down on their own time and trying to represent the community. ie their own personal vacation time away from work, family time...(there are sacrifices they endure to be wined and dined)

            There are a few GCers I will listen to and respect. They don't tell you to go out and buy the game.
            Yeah check it out Road. Alot of the show was community talk I just couldn't get with, but there were some little things in there that talked how disappointed in the trailer they were, and how there was alot we're missing out on(which is obvious since it's a teaser trailer), but they seemed to hint toward some major stuff.
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            • PeoplesChampGB
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              • May 2012
              • 6003

              #276
              Re: Some Madden NFL 16 Features Revealed, Pre-Order & Deluxe Edition Details

              Originally posted by SageInfinite
              Yeah check it out Road. Alot of the show was community talk I just couldn't get with, but there were some little things in there that talked how disappointed in the trailer they were, and how there was alot we're missing out on(which is obvious since it's a teaser trailer), but they seemed to hint toward some major stuff.
              That's cool that there is some other stuff that will be mentioned down the road. I just hope that it is implemented correctly and for gosh sakes, can we have penalties that we can adjust without sacrificing gameplay?
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              • SageInfinite
                Stop The GOAT Talk
                • Jul 2002
                • 11896

                #277
                Re: Some Madden NFL 16 Features Revealed, Pre-Order & Deluxe Edition Details

                Originally posted by PeoplesChampGB
                That's cool that there is some other stuff that will be mentioned down the road. I just hope that it is implemented correctly and for gosh sakes, can we have penalties that we can adjust without sacrificing gameplay?
                It would be nice, but all we have to go off of is Tiburon's track record, and with the way even their own devs have pushed penalties to side as being detrimental to the game's "fun", it's hard to imagine them fully being addressed, and things working to full potential.
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                • roadman
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                  • Aug 2003
                  • 26339

                  #278
                  Re: Some Madden NFL 16 Features Revealed, Pre-Order & Deluxe Edition Details

                  Originally posted by SageInfinite
                  Yeah check it out Road. Alot of the show was community talk I just couldn't get with, but there were some little things in there that talked how disappointed in the trailer they were, and how there was alot we're missing out on(which is obvious since it's a teaser trailer), but they seemed to hint toward some major stuff.
                  Yeah, I agree big time with the community talk, but I'm assuming it needed to be addressed.
                  I heard a part early on where they said the trailer isn't made for us.

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                  • SageInfinite
                    Stop The GOAT Talk
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 11896

                    #279
                    Re: Some Madden NFL 16 Features Revealed, Pre-Order & Deluxe Edition Details

                    Originally posted by roadman
                    Yeah, I agree big time with the community talk, but I'm assuming it needed to be addressed.
                    I heard a part early on where they said the trailer isn't made for us.
                    It got really bad when they got to the calls, I had to turn it off because some of the stuff being said was just ridiculous and they were cosigning it, so I was done, but right before then there was some good things being said.

                    "I think Madden 16 is gon make you believe that it's a brand new day...." Simfballcritic

                    I'm waiting to see....
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                    • l8knight1
                      BRING BACK F2000 HELMET!!
                      • Aug 2002
                      • 1185

                      #280
                      Re: Some Madden NFL 16 Features Revealed, Pre-Order & Deluxe Edition Details

                      Originally posted by roadman
                      I would tend to disagree with this.

                      All QB's played like Aaron Rodgers, they were just too accurate. One needed to nerf all the sliders to get the AI QB's to play like they should.

                      Also, if QB's were pressured, the AI QB would not take off and run or throw the ball out of bounds. Not very smart QB AI.
                      I didn't comment on AI, which I agree with you on. I was talking about user controlled passing.

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                      • roadman
                        *ll St*r
                        • Aug 2003
                        • 26339

                        #281
                        Re: Some Madden NFL 16 Features Revealed, Pre-Order & Deluxe Edition Details

                        Originally posted by l8knight1
                        I didn't comment on AI, which I agree with you on. I was talking about user controlled passing.
                        Agree, but I feel that is overpowered as well.

                        Had to set low sliders on user QBA to not have your user controlled QB not go over 80 to 90% passing.

                        This was over several months of testing sliders.

                        If using sliders out of the box, I didn't see passes go wide, high or low, no matter what QB I used.

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                        • kjcheezhead
                          MVP
                          • May 2009
                          • 3118

                          #282
                          Re: Some Madden NFL 16 Features Revealed, Pre-Order & Deluxe Edition Details

                          Originally posted by roadman
                          I really don't pay much attention to the Twitterworld or Youtube world. I've heard of the split, but that's all I've heard and all I care to know.

                          I listened to first 38 minutes and I need to listen to the rest. I was cautiously optimistic listening to what I did and Sage has me interested in listening to the whole thing. and I trust Sages opinion in here. I recall within those 38 minutes one of the them stated that they discovered something in 16 that isn't even marketed and they asked the team if they were going to market it and EA said no.

                          Every year, seems like people bring up the wining and dining aspect, but people also forget these guys are going down on their own time and trying to represent the community. ie their own personal vacation time away from work, family time...(there are sacrifices they endure to be wined and dined)

                          There are a few GCers I will listen to and respect. They don't tell you to go out and buy the game.
                          I wouldn't call it sacrificing. They are doing what they enjoy and would do in their free time for nothing. It's akin to a star wars fan getting invited to watch a scene get filmed for the new movie and then telling the director what they think.

                          I personally believe it simply compromises what they set out to do too. Sure they offer feedback and tell these guys what they think, but only to a point. Once they get on the inside, they don't want to be kicked out. They become more forgiving to the game for fear of getting shunned like coach ruckus.

                          Like others have said too, they are not the voice for me. They do not represent my views all the time. Besides, for every "SIM community" gcer there is a tourney guy fighting for user control at every turn.

                          To me, the best youtuber is Ryan Moody these days and that's because he is not a gcer. I don't always agree with him either, but he is much more direct with Clint or Rex with this game because he isn't worried about losing that GC status.

                          One last note. Last year, gcers were pumping qb inaccuracies as a great edition. The feature didn't show up in any prerelease vids and robo qb was one the biggest problems in madden 15. GCers never mentioned this. They were compromised or had their rose colored glasses on or whatever but they dropped the ball as a voice of the simheads on that in my opinion. It happens to them all.

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                          • roadman
                            *ll St*r
                            • Aug 2003
                            • 26339

                            #283
                            Re: Some Madden NFL 16 Features Revealed, Pre-Order & Deluxe Edition Details

                            Originally posted by kjcheezhead
                            I wouldn't call it sacrificing. They are doing what they enjoy and would do in their free time for nothing. It's akin to a star wars fan getting invited to watch a scene get filmed for the new movie and then telling the director what they think.

                            I personally believe it simply compromises what they set out to do too. Sure they offer feedback and tell these guys what they think, but only to a point. Once they get on the inside, they don't want to be kicked out. They become more forgiving to the game for fear of getting shunned like coach ruckus.

                            Like others have said too, they are not the voice for me. They do not represent my views all the time. Besides, for every "SIM community" gcer there is a tourney guy fighting for user control at every turn.

                            To me, the best youtuber is Ryan Moody these days and that's because he is not a gcer. I don't always agree with him either, but he is much more direct with Clint or Rex with this game because he isn't worried about losing that GC status.

                            One last note. Last year, gcers were pumping qb inaccuracies as a great edition. The feature didn't show up in any prerelease vids and robo qb was one the biggest problems in madden 15. GCers never mentioned this. They were compromised or had their rose colored glasses on or whatever but they dropped the ball as a voice of the simheads on that in my opinion. It happens to them all.
                            So, KJ, you don't recall that blog/webinar that EA had that showed inaccurate passes? Man, after that, I was looking forward to 15. Can't blame CGers on that one.

                            As far as sacrificing, I guess it boils down to personal opinion. I have a family with kids and I'd be headed for the divorce court if I asked permission to go to Florida and burn personal vacation time vs family vacation time, but to each their own.

                            And as I mentioned, I wouldn't know inside/outside Twitter/Youtube.

                            I want to make it clear, there are only a few CGers opinions I respect.
                            Last edited by roadman; 05-17-2015, 12:01 PM.

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                            • kjcheezhead
                              MVP
                              • May 2009
                              • 3118

                              #284
                              Re: Some Madden NFL 16 Features Revealed, Pre-Order & Deluxe Edition Details

                              Originally posted by roadman
                              So, KJ, you don't recall that blog/webinar that EA had that showed inaccurate passes? Man, after that, I was looking forward to 15. Can't blame CGers on that one.

                              As far as sacrificing, I guess it boils down to personal opinion. I have a family with kids and I'd be headed for the divorce court if I asked permission to go to Florida and burn personal vacation time vs family vacation time, but to each their own.

                              And as I mentioned, I wouldn't know inside/outside Twitter/Youtube.

                              I want to make it clear, there are only a few CGers opinions I respect.
                              I don't recall that. I remember watching every vid that came out looking for inaccuracies from E3 on and not seeing them. Maybe it's the cynic in me with this team, but I would watch webinar or vids of clips designed by EA to highlight an improvement with a lot of skepticism. I've been fooled a few times so I watch raw gameplay and it was evident from the start inaccuracy wasn't anything close to advertised. GCers with an inside track should've picked up on it instead of just pimping a new feature that clearly didn't work well.

                              And with sacrificing, I have a family and kids too. A 3 day weekend of fishing or hunting with my friends would be ok with the wife once or twice a year. In the gcer program, I could even make the case that I was doing it for my youtube channel. Extra subs or watches makes us more money sweetheart, I have to make this "sacrifice", wink wink.

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                              • roadman
                                *ll St*r
                                • Aug 2003
                                • 26339

                                #285
                                Re: Some Madden NFL 16 Features Revealed, Pre-Order & Deluxe Edition Details

                                Originally posted by kjcheezhead
                                I don't recall that. I remember watching every vid that came out looking for inaccuracies from E3 on and not seeing them. Maybe it's the cynic in me with this team, but I would watch webinar or vids of clips designed by EA to highlight an improvement with a lot of skepticism. I've been fooled a few times so I watch raw gameplay and it was evident from the start inaccuracy wasn't anything close to advertised. GCers with an inside track should've picked up on it instead of just pimping a new feature that clearly didn't work well.

                                And with sacrificing, I have a family and kids too. A 3 day weekend of fishing or hunting with my friends would be ok with the wife once or twice a year. In the gcer program, I could even make the case that I was doing it for my youtube channel. Extra subs or watches makes us more money sweetheart, I have to make this "sacrifice", wink wink.
                                Well, both of us know from Lbz what they saw at EA, wasn't all we got at the end.

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