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Re: Some Madden NFL 16 Features Revealed, Pre-Order & Deluxe Edition Details
Yeah what I'm talking a about is a little different. I'm talking about improving on a feature. Not introducing a feature. True step was a new feature in 25 and one that would appeal to all fans because it had to do with movement among the glamour positions like Rbs. How do you put "true step now for Lbs and lineman" and make that appeal to casual fans?
Now the only time I've seen them re hype a old feature was I think they came with a second version of the truck stick which isn't exactly a sim featureComment
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Re: Some Madden NFL 16 Features Revealed, Pre-Order & Deluxe Edition Details
No winning with you, huh? Always right and whatnot. A simple difference of opinion, you put on the box that o-linemen will move realistically so my QB doesn't get unnecessarily killed, that helps both casual and those more towards simulation.Comment
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Re: Some Madden NFL 16 Features Revealed, Pre-Order & Deluxe Edition Details
That's kind of where I'm getting at though. We do all want a sim game but at the same time we see how knee-jerk things can be around here over thirty second trailers and screenshots and I can't imagine them being too much different when it comes to actually playing the game. Being able to make every FG that your kicker has the distance for despite having a terribly rated kicker shouldn't really fit in anyone's definition of sim no matter how different it might be. It's like being able to take DeAndre Jordan or Shaq and turn them into a 95% despite a horrible rating.
We can always agree that everyone wants a sim game but what I'm getting at is the sacrifice of certain nuances that may create an "unfair" feeling in an online atmosphere that a lot of people simply don't want to have to deal with.Comment
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Re: Some Madden NFL 16 Features Revealed, Pre-Order & Deluxe Edition Details
Doesn't matter where they hype the features, all that matters is that they need to work well and consistently, and that's their main issue; they rarely do. And failing that, they're usually not nearly as impactful as they claim.Comment
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Re: Some Madden NFL 16 Features Revealed, Pre-Order & Deluxe Edition Details
I'm just clarifying my point. We disagree. You believe that hyping Improved OL lineman on the back of the box will encourage people to buy the game. I say most casual fans won't care and that's why ea doesn't hype or even appear interested in those features.Comment
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Sounds like this Madden will be good. Wonder what the connected franchise for owner mode will be like.Comment
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Re: Some Madden NFL 16 Features Revealed, Pre-Order & Deluxe Edition Details
No they don't. Just take a look at the millions, not mere hundreds or thousands, but MILLIONS of subscribers and commenters on Madden YouTube channels where the video maker is cheesing and glossing over ridiculous occurrences of total arcade-like football during the video. Then read the commenters exchanging cheese notes and cheering on cheese plays.
That^^ represents the majority of the Madden fanbase, and people who vehemently demand sim are looked at by these fans as total nutcases who nitpick and need to get lives. Personally, I don't care what they think of me, call me a nutcase, but I simply want what's being advertised.
[QUOTE=jpdavis82;2047318448]Sim football has always been about simulating the real-life game of football to the fullest extent that talent and technology will allow. I don't buy the personal preference aspect on that, it just sounds like the sort of excuse language they often use. Sim in this context is not a complicated thing to define, but it is complicated to produce.
All that matters is what they produce. So far, they haven't produced that, and they're not going to this year either. I'll bet my house on it. I realize the problem is much bigger than it seems on the outside, but as a consumer it's not our job to care about that. They've had more than enough time and they've made A LOT of irresponsible choices over the years that brought us to this point.Comment
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Re: Some Madden NFL 16 Features Revealed, Pre-Order & Deluxe Edition Details
Firstly congrats on making it down to Tiburon, becoming a EAGCer or whatever seems to have happened since you got to play the game early, you earned it, imo, with all the support you have put behind Madden and trying to keep people informed. I mean that sincerely too, not as some back handed compliment, know how things can get twisted on a message board, smh.
Now about that bold, no, just plain no, realism is realism, ie "sim" when talking about game play, which is what Rex heads up, if I'm not mistaken. Please don't perpetuate that notion, sim in relation to game play is getting whatever applicable elements as realistic as reasonably possible, period. It aint nothing to do with various opinions of what "sim" means, sim has nothing to do with a stat engine, a text sim or any of that stuff, in reference to game play.
That said, people have various preferences with the amount of "sim"/realism they enjoy for game play and that's fine BUT that still shouldn't impede Rex or anyone else at Tiburon from making the game play as realistic as reasonably possible, due to options, sliders and settings being capable of being utilized for catering to those preferences.Comment
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Re: Some Madden NFL 16 Features Revealed, Pre-Order & Deluxe Edition Details
And he speaks accurately. Should be obvious at this point. I mean, the line blocking has been broken for what? 10 years at least? And yet, the game keeps on selling.
Not only does the average casual fan not care about the line blocking or any of the 100+ things sim gamers complain about, the average casual fan doesn't even notice them and wouldn't want to hear an explanation about them, which is why the "sim community" channels have so few subscribers while the Madden channels are huge and the creators make good livings from them.
This stuff isn't hard to measure.Comment
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