Some Madden NFL 16 Features Revealed, Pre-Order & Deluxe Edition Details

[howboutdat]

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Total Control Passing is not new to madden it was in madden 06(10 yrs ago) why is it said to be "new to madden"?

I just dont get how they can look themselves in the mirror year after year, playing pet and repeat trying to claim something is new. This was also a supposed feature of madden 13, never worked quite right but , here is to hoping this year it works right.

[aholbert32]

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Well EA does keep saying they want to make a authentic simulation NFL football game what's more authentic then actual branding?

Thats makes sense if you ignore the fact that actual branding is a waste of money. No one is buying the game because the scoreboard says CBS instead of EA Sports.

Its a waste of money when you can duplicate it. Also, why is no one complainingg about NBA 2k and their 2k branding? 2k does the same exact thing and no one complains that they dont have actual TNT branding.

[aholbert32]

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I just dont get how they can look themselves in the mirror year after year, playing pet and repeat trying to claim something is new. This was also a supposed feature of madden 13, never worked quite right but , here is to hoping this year it works right.

Its marketing and it only matters if you get fooled by the marketing. People act like Madden is the first game to eliminate a feature and attempt to market it as a new feature when they bring it back. Sony and 2k have done the same thing in recent years.

[howboutdat]

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We have pass interference animations in M16. They are part of the 2 man catch animations you saw in the trailer.

so ,does this mean its gonna rely on forced animations to make it get called? really get tired of forced animations taking gameplay out of players control so i hope not.

[JetLife6]

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Thats makes sense if you ignore the fact that actual branding is a waste of money. No one is buying the game because the scoreboard says CBS instead of EA Sports.

Its a waste of money when you can duplicate it. Also, why is no one complainingg about NBA 2k and their 2k branding? 2k does the same exact thing and no one complains that they dont have actual TNT branding.

I think the 2k aesthetic is just better at that... its a little more sly and underwhelming with 2k sports integration... EA is really over the top..

'Welcome to madden.. live on the ea sports network.. brought to you by ea sports...etc.' (that stuff isn't needed. we know what we are playing)

it just constantly reminds you that you are playing a video game. Every replay is preceded by a big ea sports logo transition..

Okay.. so they don't wanna buy cbs. Why not put an NFL Network logo on the top? instead of a big EA sports logo that ruins the immersion. Nantz and simms did broadcasting through nfl network this past year with the CBS/NFL Network partnership.

[sportyguyfl31]

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People extrapolating all kinds of things off of a 40 second commercial and a few lines of early feature sets.

patience..........

[aholbert32]

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I think the 2k aesthetic is just better at that... its a little more sly and underwhelming with 2k sports integration... EA is really over the top..

'Welcome to madden.. live on the ea sports network.. brought to you by ea sports...etc.' (that stuff isn't needed. we know what we are playing)

it just constantly reminds you that you are playing a video game. Every replay is preceded by a big ea sports logo transition..

Okay.. so they don't wanna buy cbs. Why not put an NFL Network logo on the top? instead of a big EA sports logo that ruins the immersion. Nantz and simms did broadcasting through nfl network this past year with the CBS/NFL Network partnership.

Thats clear bias. I play 2k daily. The pre game show has Ernie Johnson saying "Welcome to the NBA on 2k sports". They have commercials when playing season mode that promote upcoming games on 2k Sports. The replay wipes say 2k sports. The scoreboard says 2k sports. They arent more sly.

None of us are privy to the NFL network/CBS deal so we have no idea if they extend to video games. I would assume that they dont but none of know if thats an option.

[JetLife6]

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Thats clear bias. I play 2k daily. The pre game show has Ernie Johnson saying "Welcome to the NBA on 2k sports". They have commercials when playing season mode that promote upcoming games on 2k Sports. The replay wipes say 2k sports. The scoreboard says 2k sports. They arent more sly.

None of us are privy to the NFL network/CBS deal so we have no idea if they extend to video games. I would assume that they dont but none of know if thats an option.

then I guess it just comes down to my opinion. And my opinion is that it is far less annoying in 2k than in madden. Partly because 2k is a much more complete gameplay and presentation experience. Perhaps if madden's broadcast was truly real time with a vast variety of what we see... id be less annoyed by the constant ea sports reminders.

[SageInfinite]

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We have pass interference animations in M16. They are part of the 2 man catch animations you saw in the trailer.

Did you guys add holding penalties on passing plays? Saw that alot in the NFL last year.

[aholbert32]

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then I guess it just comes down to my opinion. And my opinion is that it is far less annoying in 2k than in madden. Partly because 2k is a much more complete gameplay and presentation experience. Perhaps if madden's broadcast was truly real time with a vast variety of what we see... id be less annoyed by the constant ea sports reminders.

I think its just people nitpick Madden more than other games. NBA 2k has actually gone backwards when it comes to presentation over the past few years. 2k practically eliminated its halftime show. Constant bugs as it relates to stat overlays.

Madden has actually taken steps forward. QB cam when QBs are introduced. Halftime show added. Improved replays. More stats. Commercial breaks. They have alot more they could do but its improving.

[howboutdat]

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Partly because 2k is a much more complete gameplay

This is the key issue and what it all boils down to.

Personally id like to see it improve and be the good game it should have already been. Im just not sure the big wigs at the top will allow it. While this is only a tiny bit of info , when first thing they toss out to be new , isnt new at all and was a feature 3 years ago.... it dont give you a good feeling of this is really improving alot, thats a natural reaction to what we have become accustomed to by EA. If that perception needs to change, its up to EA to change it thru their overall works.

[aholbert32]

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Did you guys add holding penalties on passing plays? Saw that alot in the NFL last year.

I'm going to assume no. Here is my theory:

The Madden team doesnt like penalties. Clint said as much last year on Twitter. Thats why the game is pretty much devoid of them with the exception of offsides/false start even with the sliders maxed out.

The problem is they have this new WR/DB dynamic and the DB's have a choice now to go for play ball or hit receiver coverage. Now we all know that if PI stayed the same as last year, people will cheese the hell out of hit receiver and the game would pretty much become NFL Blitz. So they need PI penalties to combat the cheese.

If the Madden team wanted realistic penalties, we wouldve seen new holding and clipping animations last year when the focus was on OL/DL line play. Its a shame that the penalty that occurs the most in real football (holding) rarely appears in Madden 15.

[Hooe]

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It will be interesting to see if a "grab" button is included on defense which risked drawing a defensive holding flag if he abused it too much with one player (perhaps dependent on AWR / MCV / ZCV ratings as well)

Adding a gameplay mechanic around it which users may interact with is about the only way I see any new / currently-infrequently-called penalties getting in right now.

[JetLife6]

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I think its just people nitpick Madden more than other games. NBA 2k has actually gone backwards when it comes to presentation over the past few years. 2k practically eliminated its halftime show. Constant bugs as it relates to stat overlays.

Madden has actually taken steps forward. QB cam when QBs are introduced. Halftime show added. Improved replays. More stats. Commercial breaks. They have alot more they could do but its improving.

I understand that things are introduced.. but they are never built on. Like for instance the QB intros.... they are literally the same thing every time. Either talking to the coach or kneeling down on their knees. They run out awkwardly.. and do that weird clap as they address the huddle.

Improved replays I think is a big time myth. There is nothing in maddens replay system that replicates what we see on tv. We are never shown a play replayed in a broadcast or all 22 type camera to see the play develop. Once a game I will have a close up replay where it is literally the orange of the line of scrimmage marker because a camera was placed poorly by the development team.

Commercial breaks with 2 helmets placed randomly on the field.
Halftime show with ridiculously clumsy commentary and unrealistic replays..

If you can't feel the immense difference in gameplay and presentation experience with nba 2k (and mlb the show) vs how madden feels... then I guess we just have a completely different understanding and perspective on sports video games. (and if so that is fine.. i am just stating my opinion.)

[SageInfinite]

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Madden has actually taken steps forward. QB cam when QBs are introduced. Halftime show added. Improved replays. More stats. Commercial breaks. They have alot more they could do but its improving.

I do like that they added the video during the QB intros, but it's the same old man run out from Madden 12. It's time to add some variety. That's why Madden gets stale for me faster than the other sports games, there's no true variety. When you see something once, it's the same thing repeatedly.

Also in real life they focus on the QB walk out for more than just the first drive, I'd like to see that added as well. Not to mention the glitch where if you throw a pic or turn the ball over on the opening drive it just goes straight to the opposing QB's run out. No talk of the turnover or anything. Or sometimes they don't show the run out until the second drive.

They're improving but even on their improvements it just comes off half done.