Donny Moore, the 'Madden Ratings Czar', Leaving EA

[kehlis]

Re: Donny Moore, the 'Madden Ratings Czar', Leaving EA

Whoever gets the gig will have to accept that Marketing will be involved in the process to some extent.

That's his point.

Remember Adembroski? Very active OS member who had fantastic ideas and thoughts.

Got hired by EA, either left or was asked to leave a year later. Went on a long long Twitter rant and hasn't been heard of since.

[oneamongthefence]

Re: Donny Moore, the 'Madden Ratings Czar', Leaving EA

It's highly likely that there will be some PR ratings for certain players as has been the case for a long time now, but the very fact that they have reached out to Dan gives hope that they are open to a more robust, versatile system.

Whoever gets the gig will have to accept that Marketing will be involved in the process to some extent.

They reached out to him before. I believe the 2 could work together and find a happy medium. Seems like Donny was mostly in favor of more spread out ratings and seemed real excited when they got stretched out in 2010. But then they had fan votes on rating changes and they ended up close together once again.

Best of luck to him and now hopefully he can watch as a fan and not a scout.

[redsox4evur]

Re: Donny Moore, the 'Madden Ratings Czar', Leaving EA

It's highly likely that there will be some PR ratings for certain players as has been the case for a long time now, but the very fact that they have reached out to Dan gives hope that they are open to a more robust, versatile system.

Whoever gets the gig will have to accept that Marketing will be involved in the process to some extent.

Yea that's the point I was making...

[4thQtrStre5S]

Re: Donny Moore, the 'Madden Ratings Czar', Leaving EA

One issue that seems to be present in regards to ratings is how the CPU plays and it's ability to be competitive, as the CPU ability to compete is based on the current rating scale, as far as I have experienced; hopefully there is an easy programming fix if EA decides to go with Dan's rating's system; which I believe is the best ratings available..maybe default slider base effects would have to be adjusted?

[charter04]

Re: Donny Moore, the 'Madden Ratings Czar', Leaving EA

Guys,

Just want to let the community know that I have already been contacted by EA today about "an open dialog" regarding my website's use at EA. We have a meeting set up for 16:30 EST on Monday. Details to come after that.

Dan

This is music to my ears.

[jfsolo]

Re: Donny Moore, the 'Madden Ratings Czar', Leaving EA

Yea that's the point I was making...

Yeah, I was agreeing and hoping that the new person/people can find a way to deal with that reality, while still being able to make fundamental changes that enhance the gameplay greatly.

[Oinkersthepig]

Re: Donny Moore, the 'Madden Ratings Czar', Leaving EA

That's his point.

Remember Adembroski? Very active OS member who had fantastic ideas and thoughts.

Got hired by EA, either left or was asked to leave a year later. Went on a long long Twitter rant and hasn't been heard of since.

Completely off topic but I'm actually friends with that dude. Still talk to him to this day. I've asked him about how all of that went down, but he's still honoring his NDA from working there and stuff. I remember the article written about him being fired, and the way they portrayed him is absolutely nothing like how he is in real life. I never worked with him though so I can't say either way.

He did tell me that whoever was in charge, was in charge. That he worked with a small group of people and that the dude in charge of the group was incompetent and thats why they never seemed to get enough done.

That was all years ago though, and I really like the direction the game is going now. Not trying to start anything against the dev team or anything like that, because I really like what they're doing.

So yeah, nothing productive there, just a fun fact I've been sitting on for a while.

[fballturkey]

Re: Donny Moore, the 'Madden Ratings Czar', Leaving EA

It's anecdotal, but I've always noticed a bigger difference at the top of the scale than in the middle. So there's a bigger difference between 94 and 99 than 60 and 70. Could be wrong though.

[Sausage]

Re: Donny Moore, the 'Madden Ratings Czar', Leaving EA

One thing I can hope changes (not popular opinion) is that rating updates should be every 4 weeks. So let's say ODB has a game were he drops 5 passes; on Monday his catch ratings shouldn't take a hit; but if he continues struggling after weeks 4, I think then it makes more sense to adjust his ratings to his current playing.

[jerwoods]

U guys would not like me any more than Donny as i would go toward a NFL 2k5 mlb the show ratings model for use in madden 2017
my biggest diff would be look at madden 2003 and madden 2010 default rosters and in a perfect world i would have 32 people working under me 1 guy per team

[DCEBB2001]

Re: Donny Moore, the 'Madden Ratings Czar', Leaving EA

One thing I can hope changes (not popular opinion) is that rating updates should be every 4 weeks. So let's say ODB has a game were he drops 5 passes; on Monday his catch ratings shouldn't take a hit; but if he continues struggling after weeks 4, I think then it makes more sense to adjust his ratings to his current playing.

I am a huge proponent of this. Player movement daily, ratings changes monthly. However, since my site is real-time, any and all ratings can change whenever the scouts change them. I have no say over that...unless I decide to hold back; but would be the point of live ratings if I did such a thing?

[DCEBB2001]

Re: Donny Moore, the 'Madden Ratings Czar', Leaving EA

I don't see anyway that his replacement is a single person. They have to come in with a ratings team. It's just too much work for one guy first of all and it becomes very arbitrary in the sense that just bc one person thinks a guy should be rated X his stats don't match up to it.

However we did go 16 years with just one guy doing the ratings so I could be wrong.

I think that I have proven that ratings work can be done by one guy. I have 30000+ players in my database...all rated every week. Not impossible. Not inaccurate.

[DCEBB2001]

Re: Donny Moore, the 'Madden Ratings Czar', Leaving EA

Well, from what Dan from FBG posted here a while back, he disclosed in his interview for a ratings job there that he would have to cater to marketing to make changes to ratings even if they weren't "right". That seems to be invasive to me, assuming Dan was telling the truth, and I don't see why he wouldn't be.

That was 100% true. I wish I had recorded that convo last time. I learned my lesson.

[DCEBB2001]

Re: Donny Moore, the 'Madden Ratings Czar', Leaving EA

I'm not saying it won't happen but how do we know that Dan or the next guy won't have the constraints as Donny had?

A very legitimate question. Know this: I did not accept anything with EA before due to them asking to compromise my system. Needless to say I have not yet lost my principals. That issue may need to be hacked out...in writing.

[4thQtrStre5S]

Re: Donny Moore, the 'Madden Ratings Czar', Leaving EA

A very legitimate question. Know this: I did not accept anything with EA before due to them asking to compromise my system. Needless to say I have not yet lost my principals. That issue may need to be hacked out...in writing.

I am willing to guess, since they know your position, they may be more open to negotiate to your terms, since they contacted you again...I hope..