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  • Senator Palmer
    MVP
    • Jul 2008
    • 3314

    #16
    Re: Donny Moore, the 'Madden Ratings Czar', Leaving EA

    I got mixed feelings about this one. On one hand, I've felt for a while that the ratings system needed some fresh blood, or at least a new perspective, but this might not actually mean that's what's happening. You always run the risk that the replacement will be even worse.

    I remember that article a while ago on the disconnect between what some developers wanted to do and what Donny wanted. As in Donny wanted to continue to expand the ratings to show greater difference between players, while others were completely at a loss as to why that was necessary.
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    • Gman 18
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      • Jul 2012
      • 2902

      #17
      Re: Donny Moore, the 'Madden Ratings Czar', Leaving EA

      Originally posted by charter04
      Wish him luck but, hopefully this will lead to getting away from these horrible overrated ratings.

      The ratings have always been part of the problem with how the game plays.




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      Good luck to Donnie in whatever he does.

      Exactly. If EA is truly serious about improved gameplay, they NEED an accurate ratings system. It would be nice if they take a look at FBG ratings and NFL 2k5's rating system, but in the end the suits will overrule the ratings of specific players regardless of who is hired. Its unfortunate, but there is nothing we can really do about it other than re-edit the ratings ourselves.


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      • therizing02
        MVP
        • Apr 2003
        • 4175

        #18
        Re: Donny Moore, the 'Madden Ratings Czar', Leaving EA

        Wait and see...

        Did he leave because he just found a better opportunity and it was time to move on after 16 years?

        Did he leave because he wanted to keep the current rating system in place and everyone else wanted it overhauled? Vice versa?

        Since we know marketing is somewhat involved, did he leave because they want be more involved?

        Maybe the suits now want to approve rating changes or at least dictate what they should be based on popularity.

        Way too easy to speculate on what this means because there isn't in any info on why he left. I'll wait and see...

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        • GoodImmigrant
          Rookie
          • Jun 2008
          • 172

          #19
          Re: Donny Moore, the 'Madden Ratings Czar', Leaving EA

          His retirement statement reminds me a little of Tikki Barber's.
          I wish Donny all the best.

          P.S.: T.J. Houshmandzadeh still wants his speed rating up.

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          • Gman 18
            MVP
            • Jul 2012
            • 2902

            #20
            Re: Donny Moore, the 'Madden Ratings Czar', Leaving EA

            Originally posted by therizing02
            Wait and see...



            Did he leave because he just found a better opportunity and it was time to move on after 16 years?



            Did he leave because he wanted to keep the current rating system in place and everyone else wanted it overhauled? Vice versa?



            Since we know marketing is somewhat involved, did he leave because they want be more involved?



            Maybe the suits now want to approve rating changes or at least dictate what they should be based on popularity.



            Way too easy to speculate on what this means because there isn't in any info on why he left. I'll wait and see...

            Ratings being dictated by a player's popularity, rather than his actual skill set, is something that really diminishes immersion from the game. That is something that was somewhat acceptable back in 2001, but now in 2015 we should see a ratings system based on REAL DATA from NFL teams and scouting reports- AKA an FBG ratings-esque system. In 2015 ratings should be the smallest problem when it comes to madden, but unfortunately it continues to be one of the game's major flaws and has and possibly always will hold the game back gameplay wise


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            • Senator Palmer
              MVP
              • Jul 2008
              • 3314

              #21
              Re: Donny Moore, the 'Madden Ratings Czar', Leaving EA

              Originally posted by Gman 18
              Ratings being dictated by a player's popularity, rather than his actual skill set, is something that really diminishes immersion from the game. That is something that was somewhat acceptable back in 2001, but now in 2015 we should see a ratings system based on REAL DATA from NFL teams and scouting reports- AKA an FBG ratings-esque system. In 2015 ratings should be the smallest problem when it comes to madden, but unfortunately it continues to be one of the game's major flaws and has and possibly always will hold the game back gameplay wise


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              This right here has been my biggest bug-a-boo with the way the ratings were applied.

              I'll never forget that for the longest time when Tom Brady came on the scene his THP rating was 92. From like 2003-2006, like clockwork every year it was 92. Then he gets Randy Moss, throws 50 touchdown passes, the Patriots go 16-0 and the next year his THP gets beefed up to 99!

              Really... really??? So 50 TD passes and all of sudden he's got the strongest arm in the NFL???
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              • crenk
                Rookie
                • Jan 2009
                • 396

                #22
                Re: Donny Moore, the 'Madden Ratings Czar', Leaving EA

                Originally posted by vannwolfhawk
                Not to knock the guy down but I am excited for a change here. After inputting all of the fbg ratings into the game last year and seeing what a HUGE difference it made to the game and gameplay I think it's time madden makes a change. It's amazing how different (in a extremely positive way) the game plays with different ratings.
                can you tell me the two second version of how it improved the gameplay? Not doubting, I just have no experience with these ratings

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                • SolidSquid
                  MVP
                  • Aug 2014
                  • 3159

                  #23
                  Re: Donny Moore, the 'Madden Ratings Czar', Leaving EA

                  Originally posted by crenk
                  can you tell me the two second version of how it improved the gameplay? Not doubting, I just have no experience with these ratings
                  Bigger difference between the players. Playing with or against a superstar feels like it vs. playing with some scrub

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                  • SolidSquid
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                    • Aug 2014
                    • 3159

                    #24
                    Re: Donny Moore, the 'Madden Ratings Czar', Leaving EA

                    Originally posted by Senator Palmer
                    I got mixed feelings about this one. On one hand, I've felt for a while that the ratings system needed some fresh blood, or at least a new perspective, but this might not actually mean that's what's happening. You always run the risk that the replacement will be even worse.

                    I remember that article a while ago on the disconnect between what some developers wanted to do and what Donny wanted. As in Donny wanted to continue to expand the ratings to show greater difference between players, while others were completely at a loss as to why that was necessary.
                    I don't see anyway that his replacement is a single person. They have to come in with a ratings team. It's just too much work for one guy first of all and it becomes very arbitrary in the sense that just bc one person thinks a guy should be rated X his stats don't match up to it.

                    However we did go 16 years with just one guy doing the ratings so I could be wrong.

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                    • neume1mb
                      Banned
                      • Aug 2013
                      • 98

                      #25
                      Re: Donny Moore, the 'Madden Ratings Czar', Leaving EA

                      See ya.

                      Now get some new guys to take over CFM and we'll be looking good.

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                      • SageInfinite
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                        • Jul 2002
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                        #26
                        Re: Donny Moore, the 'Madden Ratings Czar', Leaving EA

                        Madden will be Madden. Doesn't matter who stays or leaves. Wish the guy luck in whatever he moves onto.
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                        • jb12780
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                          • Oct 2008
                          • 10665

                          #27
                          Re: Donny Moore, the 'Madden Ratings Czar', Leaving EA

                          I wish Mr. Moore the best in his future endeavors.

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                          • RACZILLA
                            Run After Catch
                            • Mar 2004
                            • 224

                            #28
                            Re: Donny Moore, the 'Madden Ratings Czar', Leaving EA

                            Donny is a great dude. Anyone in that role will catch a lot of flak because of how passionate people are about ratings. Sometimes we'd ask him about specific decisions and two things stuck out to me: 1) He was always willing to talk and back up his decision and 2) the dude really does know about as much as humanly possible about the players.

                            Also, Donny owns more NFL jerseys than anyone I've ever met. Just loves football. I know he'll be missed.
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                            • A_Quiet_Pro
                              Banned
                              • Feb 2013
                              • 2572

                              #29
                              Re: Donny Moore, the 'Madden Ratings Czar', Leaving EA

                              Forgive my ignorance here, but what is the difference with Donny's ratings compared to Dan's?

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                              • charter04
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                                • May 2010
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                                #30
                                Re: Donny Moore, the 'Madden Ratings Czar', Leaving EA

                                Originally posted by SolidSquid
                                Bigger difference between the players. Playing with or against a superstar feels like it vs. playing with some scrub

                                Plus it plays less arcade like because 90% of the league isn't 90 or higher in speed ratings.


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