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  • Steve_OS
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    • Jul 2002
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    #61
    Re: Madden NFL 16 Player Ratings - Top 5 Quarterbacks

    Romo is #6 with an overall 93 rating. I'll update the OP in a few.

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    • iLLWiLL
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      • Jul 2002
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      #62
      Re: Madden NFL 16 Player Ratings - Top 5 Quarterbacks

      Originally posted by Steve_OS
      Romo is #6 with an overall 93 rating. I'll update the OP in a few.


      Graphics look amazing. Although the issue of the shoulder pads not being their own entity really rears its ugly head in this pic: that over-stretched stripe is an eye sore


      Back on topic -- I wish they would just release the top 10 ...

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      • talucchesi
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        • Nov 2012
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        #63
        Originally posted by ChaseB
        Roethlisberger is playing better now than he did when he was winning those rings, for what it's worth. The offense has changed and he's throwing way more as well. Pittsburgh also had the best pass offense in the NFL last year by DVOA.

        I'm a Romo fan, but let's not just push by the fact that Romo had the third best rushing offense by DVOA last year and arguably the best offensive line as well. He got a chance to put up more efficient numbers because the Cowboys finally ran the proper offense and got him protection. Romo's lack of clutch stats and "choking" and all that are mostly fiction, so again, I'm defending the guy overall, but let's be reasonable at the same time.

        Andrew Luck meanwhile had a bad offensive line, takes more hits than seems possible, had a rushing offense ranked 27th by DVOA and still put together an impressive year for a guy still on his rookie contract.



        I like Wilson a lot, but I hope you're not saying you would take Russ over Luck. Wilson is part of the best rushing attack in the NFL, Luck is the entire offense for the Colts.
        I like your points alot, but my only counter argument to this is find me a more consistent QB from year than year outside the 4 elite QB's than Romo. This and one of the Barber/Jones/Choice years are the two only years Romo wasn't asketd to throw 40+ times every game. This was the only year Romo had solid protection nearly every game

        Even then, he makes the Oline look that much better with the amount of people he makes miss, same can be said the Big Ben though
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        • DCEBB2001
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          #64
          Re: Madden NFL 16 Player Ratings - Top 5 Quarterbacks

          Originally posted by jshake8
          So is what you posted how you would have them rated in Madden? When Madden comes out, will Brady be in the top 5?
          I don't know. We will have to see how things shake out before then.
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          • DCEBB2001
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            #65
            Re: Madden NFL 16 Player Ratings - Top 6 Quarterbacks

            Originally posted by AP 17
            Good thing u have nothing to do with the Madden ratings process.
            I guess so.
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            • DCEBB2001
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              #66
              Re: Madden NFL 16 Player Ratings - Top 6 Quarterbacks

              Originally posted by talucchesi
              Lists like this make me want to dislike football
              Yup! Me too!
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              • ChaseB
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                • Oct 2003
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                #67
                Re: Madden NFL 16 Player Ratings - Top 6 Quarterbacks

                Originally posted by talucchesi
                I like your points alot, but my only counter argument to this is find me a more consistent QB from year than year outside the 4 elite QB's than Romo. This and one of the Barber/Jones/Choice years are the two only years Romo wasn't asketd to throw 40+ times every game. This was the only year Romo had solid protection nearly every game

                Even then, he makes the Oline look that much better with the amount of people he makes miss, same can be said the Big Ben though
                Oh, I'll defend Romo to the bitter end. Like, I agree with you that the Cowboys have mostly fudged up the Romo years with classic shoddy Jerry Jones cap mutilation. But my point at the end of the day is if I'm starting a team today, and I'm not even worried about age or contract or anything, I'm taking Luck over Romo.

                For what it's worth, I really only have like a top 3 and then there's a bunch of dudes I would take:

                1. Rodgers (he's pure evil) -- and by himself in this tier.
                ----------
                2. Luck
                3. Brady
                ----------

                Then I think you can make arguments for Romo, Roethlisberger, Peyton, Rivers and Brees for those last two spots.
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                • Hooe
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                  • Aug 2002
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                  #68
                  Re: Madden NFL 16 Player Ratings - Top 6 Quarterbacks

                  Here's the thing with Tony Romo (way I see it, anyway):

                  Tony Romo is not the most physically talented quarterback in the world. There are plenty of guys who just on paper with their measureables are more impressive athletes; who run faster, have stronger arms, or have more innate ability to throw a football accurately at a target 50 yards away in shirts and shorts. Between this and the low level of competition he played against in FCS, it's not surprising Romo went undrafted compared to the guys with high draft grades in his draft year (2003) like Carson Palmer, Byron Leftwich, Kyle Boller, Rex Grossman, and Seneca Wallace; these guys all had better athletic skills and played against more highly-regarded competition. Heck, even Ken Dorsey got drafted, because he won a bunch of games at Miami despite having marginal physical ability.

                  What happened is that Tony Romo was allowed to sit, watch, and grow his quarterbacking skills - not necessarily his physical abilities, but his recognition of defensive coverages, anticipation and timing of receivers running routes in his team's offense, and his knowledge of his pass protection calls and knowing when to call them. He also turned out to be an extremely coachable player who fell into the right situation with a strong coaching staff, first led by Bill Parcells and Sean Payton, and later Jason Garrett and Scott Linehan (who while not regarded as offensive wizards to the regard of say Bill Walsh are still regarded as offensive-minded coaches). When Romo finally got an opportunity after all that growth, he blossomed. The rest is history.

                  Romo has absolutely made the most with what he has and he's a wonderful success story in the world of pro football. He's one of my all-time favorite players in sports, and he's an incredibly fun player to watch, what with his houdini act, his backyard-football style approach to plays that break down, and an unflappable demeanor and smirk I'm sure his opponents just want to smack off his face. But in isolation - take away Demarco Murray, Tyron Smith, Dez Bryant, Jason Witten, and the Dallas Cowboys - he's not as physically talented a quarterback and athlete as Matthew Stafford, Colin Kaepernick, or Joe Flacco, and I think anyone building a team from scratch today to win a Super Bowl tomorrow would strongly consider taking any of those three over Romo.

                  Nevertheless I imagine Romo will be ranked ahead of all those guys in Madden, because the Cowboys as a team had an extremely productive (by efficiency metrics moreso than yardage) passing offense last year.

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                  • 4thQtrStre5S
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                    #69
                    Re: Madden NFL 16 Player Ratings - Top 6 Quarterbacks

                    ^^Supposedly Romo was a big Brett Favre fan, which could explain the gunslinger, hit sometimes, get picked off the next...

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                    • Find_the_Door
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                      • Jan 2012
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                      #70
                      Re: Madden NFL 16 Player Ratings - Top 6 Quarterbacks

                      But what are Tony's ratings!?!?!?
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                      • steeldee7
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                        • Jun 2015
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                        #71
                        Re: Madden NFL 16 Player Ratings - Top 6 Quarterbacks

                        [QUOTE=talucchesi;2047512563]Romo better be sixth here. Perception is truly reality when it comes to sports.

                        Not quite sure how Big Ben is ahead of him, living off of his rings I see.

                        I can see Peyton being over Romo, I'd accept that.

                        I think Big Ben is living off his record setting performance last year.

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                        • talucchesi
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                          • Nov 2012
                          • 509

                          #72
                          Originally posted by ChaseB
                          Oh, I'll defend Romo to the bitter end. Like, I agree with you that the Cowboys have mostly fudged up the Romo years with classic shoddy Jerry Jones cap mutilation. But my point at the end of the day is if I'm starting a team today, and I'm not even worried about age or contract or anything, I'm taking Luck over Romo.

                          For what it's worth, I really only have like a top 3 and then there's a bunch of dudes I would take:

                          1. Rodgers (he's pure evil) -- and by himself in this tier.
                          ----------
                          2. Luck
                          3. Brady
                          ----------

                          Then I think you can make arguments for Romo, Roethlisberger, Peyton, Rivers and Brees for those last two spots.
                          Peyton is the greatest QB/player of all time bar none for me. So there's no way I'm not including him. And yea I agree with your Luck point, I'm just on the fence with Rothlisberger. I do like your points though
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                          • talucchesi
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                            • Nov 2012
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                            #73
                            Originally posted by CM Hooe
                            Here's the thing with Tony Romo (way I see it, anyway):

                            Tony Romo is not the most physically talented quarterback in the world. There are plenty of guys who just on paper with their measureables are more impressive athletes; who run faster, have stronger arms, or have more innate ability to throw a football accurately at a target 50 yards away in shirts and shorts. Between this and the low level of competition he played against in FCS, it's not surprising Romo went undrafted compared to the guys with high draft grades in his draft year (2003) like Carson Palmer, Byron Leftwich, Kyle Boller, Rex Grossman, and Seneca Wallace; these guys all had better athletic skills and played against more highly-regarded competition. Heck, even Ken Dorsey got drafted, because he won a bunch of games at Miami despite having marginal physical ability.

                            What happened is that Tony Romo was allowed to sit, watch, and grow his quarterbacking skills - not necessarily his physical abilities, but his recognition of defensive coverages, anticipation and timing of receivers running routes in his team's offense, and his knowledge of his pass protection calls and knowing when to call them. He also turned out to be an extremely coachable player who fell into the right situation with a strong coaching staff, first led by Bill Parcells and Sean Payton, and later Jason Garrett and Scott Linehan (who while not regarded as offensive wizards to the regard of say Bill Walsh are still regarded as offensive-minded coaches). When Romo finally got an opportunity after all that growth, he blossomed. The rest is history.

                            Romo has absolutely made the most with what he has and he's a wonderful success story in the world of pro football. He's one of my all-time favorite players in sports, and he's an incredibly fun player to watch, what with his houdini act, his backyard-football style approach to plays that break down, and an unflappable demeanor and smirk I'm sure his opponents just want to smack off his face. But in isolation - take away Demarco Murray, Tyron Smith, Dez Bryant, Jason Witten, and the Dallas Cowboys - he's not as physically talented a quarterback and athlete as Matthew Stafford, Colin Kaepernick, or Joe Flacco, and I think anyone building a team from scratch today to win a Super Bowl tomorrow would strongly consider taking any of those three over Romo.

                            Nevertheless I imagine Romo will be ranked ahead of all those guys in Madden, because the Cowboys as a team had an extremely productive (by efficiency metrics moreso than yardage) passing offense last year.
                            While I don't agree with every single one of your points to a tee, you did a hell of a job of describing Romo in a few short paragraphs.

                            I want to take what you said and turn it into an essay
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                            • Godgers12
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                              #74
                              Re: Madden NFL 16 Player Ratings - Top 6 Quarterbacks

                              To me Rodgers is the best QB I have ever seen, period. He is literally the perfect QB very strong arm, great mobility, insane accuracy, great improvisation, and he never makes mistakes.
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                              • FaceMask
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                                #75
                                Re: Madden NFL 16 Player Ratings - Top 6 Quarterbacks

                                Aaron Rogers is a bad man, we all know that. But Tony Romo was the best QB in pro football last year. He played lights-out championship-level football, and this time a big playoff loss can't be blamed entirely on him. All he did was get it done all season. That was the best quarterbacking I've ever seen a Cowboy QB play.

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