Don't Start Your Madden NFL 16 CFM Until New Patch Arrives, According to Developers

[bkrich83]

Re: Don't Start Your Madden NFL 16 CFM Until New Patch Arrives, According to Develope

I suppose you need someone to say it cut and clear in order to understand.

You can try and put it on me, but the fact of the matter is in this case you're wrong. No one has said it's ok or acceptable. Not one person. If you want to try to turn other statements in to that, or make it seem if I can't comprehend the posts in this thread, ok, but it doesn't make you less wrong in this case.

[Sphinx]

Re: Don't Start Your Madden NFL 16 CFM Until New Patch Arrives, According to Develope

I'm not asking for a perfect game. I am asking for a game that plays as intended, without bugs that make half of the team 100+ in their ratings.

So you haven't been involved with any software testing. It's easy to judge these people when you haven't walked in their shoes. I agree the game should always work as intended. I deal with this all the time at work but our product is never perfect and I deal with customer complaints quite often. Because of this, I can empathize with the ea development team and the struggles they deal with. Do you really think that any programmer that worked on this game wants to release a game that's not working the way they intended? They have hard deadlines for their code, often times it's as is. Then QA tests what they can, kicks back any serious flaws and then gives their stamp of approval. It is what it is, EA isn't the first to go through bugs at launch.

[bkrich83]

Re: Kolbe says to WAIT to start your CFM

There are a lot more bugs than this (see the Bugs & Glitches thread). I seriously hope there are a lot more fixes than this. I'll be extremely disappointed if this is all they patch.

I think these are the ones that've been classified as major enough to have their own threads. Clearly there are more to fix.

[mestevo]

Re: Don't Start Your Madden NFL 16 CFM Until New Patch Arrives, According to Develope

Like did nobody do any Q/A?

Is this where we pretend there were no other bugs in the game that were actually squashed before release?

[JAFranz33]

Re: Don't Start Your Madden NFL 16 CFM Until New Patch Arrives, According to Develope

So you haven't been involved with any software testing. It's easy to judge these people when you haven't walked in their shoes. I agree the game should always work as intended. I deal with this all the time at work but our product is never perfect and I deal with customer complaints quite often. Because of this, I can empathize with the ea development team and the struggles they deal with. Do you really think that any programmer that worked on this game wants to release a game that's not working the way they intended? They have hard deadlines for their code, often times it's as is. Then QA tests what they can, kicks back any serious flaws and then gives their stamp of approval. It is what it is, EA isn't the first to go through bugs at launch.

I completely understand what you are saying. I never meant to make it sound like I felt the game should run perfectly, and I do understand the complexity of programming. However, and I will leave this thread with this, I don't feel that it's acceptable for a product to release with as many issues as M16 has. I have the right to express that. All I want is a football game that I can play without having to spend numerous hours finding workarounds for all of the issues. The issues in CFM are not able to be worked around. It is perfectly ok for me to express that, whether the community likes it or not.

[N51_rob]

Re: Don't Start Your Madden NFL 16 CFM Until New Patch Arrives, According to Develope

Is this where we pretend there were no other bugs in the game that were actually squashed before release?

Nope, the mob wants thier pound of flesh and this is the opportunity they need.

When EA circles ranks in Madden 17 it will be the same people crying for transparency from the Developers.....

[JKSportsGamer1984]

Re: Don't Start Your Madden NFL 16 CFM Until New Patch Arrives, According to Develope

The reality is that most people complaint on these Forums. This is a very small corner of the internet, with basically no exposure.

People need to be more active on social media. Meaning complaining on Madden Social Media pages, complaining on other people's YouTube video, etc. go write an Amazon review.

When you do that, management will start noticing. Complaining here won't accomplish that because most madden players don't even visit these forums.

It's all about PR.

This is a great community and it's good to support OS and keep the community alive but if you want change you gotta make your voices be heard loud and clear. This part of product right now is not acceptable.

Let me be clear, I don't support a protest or anything but If everything that's being said here would be said over at Madden's Facebook or Youtube more people will eventually acknowledge these issues and the product might be better in the coming years.







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The ironic part about what you're saying is that the guy who makes the game Rex Dickson visits OS forums on a regular basis. OS & the Sim community has had a HUGE impact on the direction of Madden. Rex has said this himself. So to say we're just a small corner with no exposure is a bit misleading. Just sayin....

[Sphinx]

Re: Don't Start Your Madden NFL 16 CFM Until New Patch Arrives, According to Develope

I completely understand what you are saying. I never meant to make it sound like I felt the game should run perfectly, and I do understand the complexity of programming. However, and I will leave this thread with this, I don't feel that it's acceptable for a product to release with as many issues as M16 has. I have the right to express that. All I want is a football game that I can play without having to spend numerous hours finding workarounds for all of the issues. The issues in CFM are not able to be worked around. It is perfectly ok for me to express that, whether the community likes it or not.

Your opinion is valid and right. We have the right for the game we pay for, however we as consumers need to try and understand the complexities of software development and QA. It's never as cut and dry as we would like. The game is not perfect, CFM is buggy, but it's not unplayable. Just undesirable. I hope you continue to express your concerns, it's the only way things improve.

[jeremym480]

Re: Kolbe says to WAIT to start your CFM

There are a lot more bugs than this (see the Bugs & Glitches thread). I seriously hope there are a lot more fixes than this. I'll be extremely disappointed if this is all they patch.

Those are the fixes that I've seen Kolbe or Rex say that they were looking into for the first patch either on here or on Twitter (all within the past 24 hours or so). I'm sure other things will be fixed as well.

[Instant C1a55ic]

Re: Don't Start Your Madden NFL 16 CFM Until New Patch Arrives, According to Develope

18 pages ago I said we should be thankful that the devs roam this site and actually interact with us. We all as a group should really watch what we say, and whom we say it too. No, not because of the ban-hammer, but because they are taking the time out of their days to reach out to us and let us know WE MATTER.

They don't have to answer to us, they dont have to tell us ANYTHING of what they plan to do, but they do because this time around I firmly believe they care. I know everyone wants to voice their frustration and often times anger, but all it takes is one higher up within their company to out and say not to address this site anymore. I for one don't want that. Lets just approach this in a professional manner.

[Bull_Market]

Re: Don't Start Your Madden NFL 16 CFM Until New Patch Arrives, According to Develope

I don't think it's a lesson to be learned. I enjoy football, I enjoy watching it on Saturday's (Michigan!) and I enjoy it on Sundays. Because of this I have a high tolerance for games that may not be perfect but are fun to play. This is why, year in and out I purchase madden. Perhaps I am a sheep or maybe I am a huge fan of this dumb sport and am incapable of ever being athletic enough to play it, so I enjoy the video game aspect each year.

I came to the realization I expect too much from football games to accept this "representation" of football from EA Sports. I use that term, representation, VERY LOOSELY. Between watching actual games on Saturday and Sunday and just life in general, I don't have time to do "workarounds" etc just to enjoy a game. I feel I shouldn't have to work 40+ hours a week only to come home and be an unpaid intern to rectify/fix EA sports games as well.

Maybe thats my problem, I expect too much.

[Skyboxer]

Re: Don't Start Your Madden NFL 16 CFM Until New Patch Arrives, According to Develope

I trained for this so I'll be fine until they fix it.

[khaliib]

Re: Kolbe says to WAIT to start your CFM

Basically as you successfully perform drive goals, your players in-game confidence will increase to the point that attributes will in fact go over 100 for certain players. This leads to high performance boosts.

So my question would be....

A) Are we missing out on animations that are programmed to function with the 100+ ratings?

Or

B) There are no different animations programmed to trigger above 99 and does not impact gameplay from an animation point.

Honestly for me, if the game can function with ratings above 99, I say use them to further help separate players.

Of course that means contracts have to be reprogrammed probably and a few other areas.

[Bull_Market]

Re: Don't Start Your Madden NFL 16 CFM Until New Patch Arrives, According to Develope

No one is ok with it, nor is anyone apologizing for it. Clearly given this statement and your previous post giving "examples", you're confused.

I don't think anyone is "OK" with it, some are just more tolerant of this type of stuff more so than others. I lean towards the extreme not tolerant end of the spectrum.

[GOBLUE_08]

Re: Don't Start Your Madden NFL 16 CFM Until New Patch Arrives, According to Develope

Your opinion is valid and right. We have the right for the game we pay for, however we as consumers need to try and understand the complexities of software development and QA. It's never as cut and dry as we would like. The game is not perfect, CFM is buggy, but it's not unplayable. Just undesirable. I hope you continue to express your concerns, it's the only way things .

Exactly this, and the reality of it is, the people doing the QA may not even really like football, there job is to find bugs that make the game literally unplayable. And with a game as complex as this, there are too many variables involved to catch everything. That's why they do the early access trials. Let the community have full access to all modes, tear it completely apart, gather feedback and go from there.