Madden 2016 team specific playbooks / everything playbooks

[vannwolfhawk]

Re: Madden 2016 team specific playbooks / everything playbooks

Downloaded your Packers playbook and played as the Bears against them.

Man...you weren't kidding. Rogers carved me to pieces! The Bears defense is terrible lol.

Great work on this.

In my game, they passed over 25 times and ran only 6 though. Even when comfortably ahead. Other than that, this was awesome! Great job!!!


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Man wish I could try those.

Here is what I've found in testing. I've still been tweaking Seahawks playbook because when I test them they pass way to much no matter the situation. I even rated like 40 run plays a 5 star and all passing plays in a 1st down situation to a 1 star. That still didn't make a difference. The thing is I didn't have but a couple run plays rated a 1 or half star so if the CPU randomly selected a 1 star play (they do just as much as they call a 5 star I've noticed) then it will be a pass 90% of time if you had 1 run play and 9 pass plays rated 1 star.

What I just figured out with redoing star ratings is this. You need to evenly put pass and running plays in a certain star rating. So what I did was for the Seahawks was on 1st down for example I put only 2-5 stars with running plays only. Then on 1 star and a half of star I put let's say 10 passing plays and 10 running plays each rated the same. Now I'm FINALLY getting a better pass to run ratio. It's not how you think it would work. You would think it would call the top rated plays more often. Now it will call the top rated plays 1st in a star rating so if I had a shotgun draw play at the top of the 20 1 star rated plays it will call that first more often. It's random though but it will call the top 5 plays over the bottom 5 in a star rating I've noticed. It also seems like they run 1 star plays maybe even more than 5 star plays?

I hope that makes sense. I've been testing this for 4 days and finally figured that all out. So, hence why you might see more pass then run I'm assuming in some playbooks.

[Badguy1985]

Re: Madden 2016 team specific playbooks / everything playbooks

Man wish I could try those.

Here is what I've found in testing. I've still been tweaking Seahawks playbook because when I test them they pass way to much no matter the situation. I even rated like 40 run plays a 5 star and all passing plays in a 1st down situation to a 1 star. The thing is I didn't have but a couple run plays rated a 1 or half star . That still didn't make a difference.

What I just figured out with redoing star ratings is this. You need to evenly put pass and running plays in a certain star rating. So what I did was for the Seahawks was on 1st down for example I put only 2-5 stars with running plays only. Then on 1 star and a half of star I put let's say 10 passing plays and 10 running plays each rated the same. Now I'm FINALLY getting a better pass to run ratio. It's not how you think it would work. You would think it would call the top rated plays more often. Now it will call the top rated plays 1st in a star rating so if I had a shotgun draw play at the top of the 20 1 star rated plays it will call that first more often. It's random though but it will call the top 5 plays over the bottom 5 in a star rating I've noticed. It also seems like they run 1 star plays maybe even more than 5 star plays?

I hope that makes sense. I've been testing this for 4 days and finally figured that all out. So, hence why you might see more pass then run I'm assuming in some playbooks.

That makes sense and is probably my issue because I pretty much lumped the plays for each situation into about 3 groups -- 2*, 3*, and 4*. I was hoping they'd get called accordingly.

I'll take a fresh look tonight if I can.

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[SwaggerCoach]

Re: Madden 2016 team specific playbooks / everything playbooks

Man wish I could try those.

Here is what I've found in testing. I've still been tweaking Seahawks playbook because when I test them they pass way to much no matter the situation. I even rated like 40 run plays a 5 star and all passing plays in a 1st down situation to a 1 star. That still didn't make a difference. The thing is I didn't have but a couple run plays rated a 1 or half star so if the CPU randomly selected a 1 star play (they do just as much as they call a 5 star I've noticed) then it will be a pass 90% of time if you had 1 run play and 9 pass plays rated 1 star.

What I just figured out with redoing star ratings is this. You need to evenly put pass and running plays in a certain star rating. So what I did was for the Seahawks was on 1st down for example I put only 2-5 stars with running plays only. Then on 1 star and a half of star I put let's say 10 passing plays and 10 running plays each rated the same. Now I'm FINALLY getting a better pass to run ratio. It's not how you think it would work. You would think it would call the top rated plays more often. Now it will call the top rated plays 1st in a star rating so if I had a shotgun draw play at the top of the 20 1 star rated plays it will call that first more often. It's random though but it will call the top 5 plays over the bottom 5 in a star rating I've noticed. It also seems like they run 1 star plays maybe even more than 5 star plays?

I hope that makes sense. I've been testing this for 4 days and finally figured that all out. So, hence why you might see more pass then run I'm assuming in some playbooks.

So what you're saying is out of let's say 80 plays on first down for example...each star rating is its own group. So if I have 20 3 star rated plays and they are all pass plays, even though I have 20 run plays rated 4 stars, the CPU will pass over and over again if it starts repeatedly picking plays on the 3 star group?

So the solution is to properly balance each star rating for situation?

So for example, out of 80 plays for 1st down, if I want the CPU to run more than pass, I need to make sure each "star group" has more run than pass plays in it. For example, out of 20 4 star plays, I can make 13 runs and 7 passes. Then out of 20 3 star plays, I should again pick like 13 run plays and 7 passes?

Hope that makes sense.


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[Badguy1985]

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I'm wondering if I try to make as many star groups as possible if that will help the plays get called. For each situation I mean divide them into half star, one, one and a half, all the way up to 5. If it likes to move between the star groups then give it as many as possible.

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[vannwolfhawk]

Re: Madden 2016 team specific playbooks / everything playbooks

So what you're saying is out of let's say 80 plays on first down for example...each star rating is its own group. So if I have 20 3 star rated plays and they are all pass plays, even though I have 20 run plays rated 4 stars, the CPU will pass over and over again if it starts repeatedly picking plays on the 3 star group?

So the solution is to properly balance each star rating for situation?

So for example, out of 80 plays for 1st down, if I want the CPU to run more than pass, I need to make sure each "star group" has more run than pass plays in it. For example, out of 20 4 star plays, I can make 13 runs and 7 passes. Then out of 20 3 star plays, I should again pick like 13 run plays and 7 passes?

Hope that makes sense.


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Exactly! I just locked this down today and had to go change each formations ratings in each situation. Now the Seahawks are playing amazing!

So what I did in let's say 3rd down and medium. I wanted CPU ai to maybe run of 3rd and 3 or 4 so I rated 5 star, 4 star, etc with 10 plays per star with 7-8 pass plays and 2-3 run plays. But for 1st down I rated stars 2-5 with only run plays and the 1 star has 50/50 run and pass. Now I get the variety on 1st down. I'd still say they pass on 1st 30-40% of the time so it keeps me on my toes. Same with 3rd and medium situations. It's a pain but I played maybe 10 games or so and tested while watching every play the CPU called to try and make sense of it. Now we know! Should be easy from here on out!

By the way it's the same with defense. The Seahawks were blitzing too much. But on defense it's a bit different as they call the 5 star plays more than the 1 star plays. So o put all zone blitz as a 1 star and all zero or man blitzes as a half star (a few 1 star). I am loving the CPU Seahawks defense! They mix it up and I know cover 1, and 3 are being played slot but they are mixing zone blitzes and I'm not sure what the hell they are doing! Loving it! I just wish I could upload these as I'm done with both as I feel good after testing.

[vannwolfhawk]

Re: Madden 2016 team specific playbooks / everything playbooks

I'm wondering if I try to make as many star groups as possible if that will help the plays get called. For each situation I mean divide them into half star, one, one and a half, all the way up to 5. If it likes to move between the star groups then give it as many as possible.

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That's what I did but don't think it's necessary actually? Maybe depends on how many plays you have in a situation...

[SwaggerCoach]

Re: Madden 2016 team specific playbooks / everything playbooks

I'm wondering if I try to make as many star groups as possible if that will help the plays get called. For each situation I mean divide them into half star, one, one and a half, all the way up to 5. If it likes to move between the star groups then give it as many as possible.

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Yeah that's a great idea.




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[SwaggerCoach]

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I wonder if the devs knew over rating plays would lead to the game crashing when the CPU tries to utilize a playbook and that's why they rated so few for each situation? (To eliminate all chance of it happening)

Just a thought.


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[Badguy1985]

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That's what I did but don't think it's necessary actually? Maybe depends on how many plays you have in a situation...

I have a lot in the more flexible situations like early downs or short yardage. Play variety was good, just a bit pass heavy.

I'll give it some thought and a few test runs.

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[ASUBoy93]

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Jeez, Vann. Every time you talk about your 'Hawks playbook I get irrationally jealous. Curse you PS4/Xbox1 cross platform limitations!!

Man, I want that Seahawks defense. And offense. And everything currently on the Xbox1 share list.

[BL8001]

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Swagger, grabbed your panthers file.

Played as cowboys in carolina. It was a hell of a game and the cpu O put up much more of a fight. I won 24-17.

Only issue is what has cropped up in the last 2 pages of posts.

Limited cpu rush attack.

I did stop the run for a loss 3 times for about a net of -8 yards. So we are still talking cpu run game being 10 yards or less.

Sample size was 1 game.

The punt returns are zero because we both were penalized on every punt of the 2 for them and 2 for me. So ignore the zeroes there.

[Badguy1985]

Re: Madden 2016 team specific playbooks / everything playbooks

I wonder if the devs knew over rating plays would lead to the game crashing when the CPU tries to utilize a playbook and that's why they rated so few for each situation? (To eliminate all chance of it happening)

Just a thought.


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I kind of think they probably didn't have time to really get into it. The star ratings that are there are mostly the generic plays with a couple of the shot plays added in. (A lot of times in odd situations. They probably carried over the stars from last year and added the shots.)

A lot of the team specific route combos didn't get star ratings, which is weird to me because some of them are fantastic. I recognize some of the Packer ones from games I watched.

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[Badguy1985]

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[vannwolfhawk]

Re: Madden 2016 team specific playbooks / everything playbooks

Swagger, grabbed your panthers file.

Played as cowboys in carolina. It was a hell of a game and the cpu O put up much more of a fight. I won 24-17.

Only issue is what has cropped up in the last 2 pages of posts.

Limited cpu rush attack.

I did stop the run for a loss 3 times for about a net of -8 yards. So we are still talking cpu run game being 10 yards or less.

Sample size was 1 game.

The punt returns are zero because we both were penalized on every punt of the 2 for them and 2 for me. So ignore the zeroes there.

This is a slider issue...

[SwaggerCoach]

Re: Madden 2016 team specific playbooks / everything playbooks

Swagger, grabbed your panthers file.



Played as cowboys in carolina. It was a hell of a game and the cpu O put up much more of a fight. I won 24-17.



Only issue is what has cropped up in the last 2 pages of posts.



Limited cpu rush attack.



I did stop the run for a loss 3 times for about a net of -8 yards. So we are still talking cpu run game being 10 yards or less.



Sample size was 1 game.



The punt returns are zero because we both were penalized on every punt of the 2 for them and 2 for me. So ignore the zeroes there.

Great Scott Marty! The rushing yards!!! Wow that's ugly lol.

How often did the Panthers throw VS run?


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