CFM Scheduling breaks NFL rules in Year 2

[Robo COP]

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Well,if you would actually check and not assume(and in this case it only makes an *** out of you,not me)you would see that at least all the maddens for last gen from at least '08 on had the same schedule issues and I still have '05 thru '07 old gen (original Xbox) so I just checked those a few days ago because one of my bigger franchise gripes has been this.

I know you only want to hear facts that you personally want to hear but you have to be able to handle the truth.If you're just a kid,I understand.Nothing I stated was false.

oh okay, you're right. 2k5 is the better game, even 10 years later. Sorry

[gr18]

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oh okay, you're right. 2k5 is the better game, even 10 years later. Sorry

This is the last time I'm responding to you son but listen to yourself.Actually go look at my posts and then tell me if I ever said 2k5 is the better game.It did better generating a schedule than Madden has ever been able to do.Wish they would address it one of these decades but otherwise I said nothing about any other facet of the game.

[Robo COP]

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This is the last time I'm responding to you son but listen to yourself.Actually go look at my posts and then tell me if I ever said 2k5 is the better game.It did better generating a schedule than Madden has ever been able to do.Wish they would address it one of these decades but otherwise I said nothing about any other facet of the game.

And how was it relevant? The topic is CFM scheduling, not madden versus 2k5 scheduling. You worked an irrelevant topic into the conversation that has been met by disdain for many years on this forum due to the fanboy trolls. Keep talking to me like I'm your child, maybe it'll help you grow up.

[gr18]

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And how was it relevant? The topic is CFM scheduling, not madden versus 2k5 scheduling. You worked an irrelevant topic into the conversation that has been met by disdain for many years on this forum due to the fanboy trolls. Keep talking to me like I'm your child, maybe it'll help you grow up.

I said I wouldn't respond but let me clarify.Madden is a very good game this year.There was a legitimate attempt to fix many things and there's nothing to believe it won't continue.

Regarding this topic,which apparently isn't for the sensitive,Madden has been off very badly for a very,very long time.Longer than some may remember.It's been done right before by the other game over a decade ago.That's just a fact.I'm not making anything up or slanting an opinion.By what I posted,I may think and have always thought that Madden was without fault and 2k football is garbage otherwise.

[oneamongthefence]

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Yeah I've seen some pretty strange scheduling in both pre season and regular season. I'll play a division rival twice in three weeks usually separated by just a bye week. That's annoying. Or having my division games done fairly early in the year by week 12 or 13 just to name a few.

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[IlluminatusUIUC]

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In 15, I was assigned 5 straight road games with a bye in the middle

[The Real Ma$$ive]

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Year 2 scheduling for my Cowboys was crazy

Start of the season 3 away games... Redskins, Giants, then Eagles, then had one home game, and then 3 more away games lol

Hey at least down the stretch I'll have some home cooking lol.

[EricFreakingBerry]

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Has no one else noticed that starting Year 2 and beyond your pre-season schedule is the EXACT same every year? It was like this last year too, and I cannot stand the fact that unless you play the last pre-season game you can't even see a box score for it.

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[Sheba2011]

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Just started year 2 of my CFM with the 49ers. Noticed my first 3 games were on the road which was unusual. Looked ahead at the schedule and my last 5 games of the year are at home.

This would never happen in real life. Anyone else seeing weird schedule quirks like this?

I don't know if it would never happen in real life, the NFL schedule always has some weird quirks. 5 straight might be a bit of a stretch but 3 straight or 4 out of 5 happens a lot with the NFL schedule. The 2011 Arizona Cardinals had 4 of the their last 5 games at home including 3 straight from weeks 13-15. In 2005 the Patriots finished the year with 3 straight home games.

The problem for Madden is the real NFL schedule is determined each offseason, it's not set in stone. And the real schedule makers use 136 computers to determine that years schedule. They have to take into account concerts or other events taking place at each venue that are already scheduled and work around that. And then they take the networks into account,. the networks want the marquee matchups in primetime slots. Those matchups change each year based on teams records the previous year. It's no easy task in real life and there is virtually no way for Madden to replicate it.

[jhigginsluckow]

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I don't know if it would never happen in real life, the NFL schedule always has some weird quirks. 5 straight might be a bit of a stretch but 3 straight or 4 out of 5 happens a lot with the NFL schedule. The 2011 Arizona Cardinals had 4 of the their last 5 games at home including 3 straight from weeks 13-15. In 2005 the Patriots finished the year with 3 straight home games.

The problem for Madden is the real NFL schedule is determined each offseason, it's not set in stone. And the real schedule makers use 136 computers to determine that years schedule. They have to take into account concerts or other events taking place at each venue that are already scheduled and work around that. And then they take the networks into account,. the networks want the marquee matchups in primetime slots. Those matchups change each year based on teams records the previous year. It's no easy task in real life and there is virtually no way for Madden to replicate it.

Actually, wouldn't that make it much easier for Madden to create a decent schedule? There are no networks to deal with, and no concerts or anything like that to deal with.

Program into the game that you cannot have more than 3 home/road games in a row, and 4 of your 6 divisional games must come in the final 8 games. I can't imagine that without anything else to consider that it would be difficult to create a schedule around that.

For the preseason, only have to program that you can't play a divisional opponent.

[Robo COP]

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Where did you get this 136 computers tidbit from? That seems like a (way) bit of a stretch. I'm no IT guy, but I am pretty sure 1 CPU could handle scheduling a leagues games for a season. In fact, I bet someone with more knowledge of me with Excel could find a way to set it up through Excel

All it really is is linear programming. You have some constraints and you already know by seasons end which teams are playing who. You just have to find out how to best set it up

[Sheba2011]

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Where did you get this 136 computers tidbit from? That seems like a (way) bit of a stretch. I'm no IT guy, but I am pretty sure 1 CPU could handle scheduling a leagues games for a season. In fact, I bet someone with more knowledge of me with Excel could find a way to set it up through Excel

All it really is is linear programming. You have some constraints and you already know by seasons end which teams are playing who. You just have to find out how to best set it up

http://operations.nfl.com/the-game/creating-the-nfl-schedule/

It's all explained in here. It's a lot more complex than people think.

[Sheba2011]

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Actually, wouldn't that make it much easier for Madden to create a decent schedule? There are no networks to deal with, and no concerts or anything like that to deal with.

Program into the game that you cannot have more than 3 home/road games in a row, and 4 of your 6 divisional games must come in the final 8 games. I can't imagine that without anything else to consider that it would be difficult to create a schedule around that.

For the preseason, only have to program that you can't play a divisional opponent.

But that's not the way the real NFL schedule is, and everyone complains when something doesn't match the real NFL. The 2015 Titans had four straight home games from Week 3 to Week 7. The 2015 Patriots only have 3 division opponents in the finals 8 games. The 2015 Dallas Cowboys only have 2.

[Robo COP]

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got ya. It says "every possible schedule." For some reason my brain was thinking it's just going to spit out a schedule and you go with that one, not every single possibility, but that makes much more sense.

But it still seems a little....odd....if that's the case, how many computers does it take to generate an 82 game NBA schedule? 162 game MLB schedule? If anything, the NFL schedule should be the easiest schedule to generate of all major league sports. Majority of games are on sunday (with some thursday and mondays)

[Freakywwe]

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oh okay, you're right. 2k5 is the better game, even 10 years later. Sorry

Well, you're not wrong lol