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  • SportsGamer94
    Banned
    • Jul 2015
    • 343

    #46
    Re: Madden NFL 17 Has Ball Physics, New Ways to Eliminate Money Plays & Much More

    He writer didn't mention anything about pass blocking and pass rushing, I'm afraid this crucial part of the game didnt receive much attention this year besides more logic tuning, I still have hope one of the game play blogs will be about this part of the game, but everything else that has come out today sounds amazing.

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    • Cowboy008
      MVP
      • Mar 2012
      • 4574

      #47
      Re: Madden NFL 17 Has Ball Physics, New Ways to Eliminate Money Plays & Much More

      Really interested in the new kick meter as it seems that your kicker/punter's ratings will play a big role in it. The ball physics are a nice surprise as well. When reading the thing about tackle battle they mention breaking out of a gang tackle. I thought it's only for the 1 on 1 stand up tackle?

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      • MAGboyswifT27
        Rookie
        • Sep 2012
        • 206

        #48
        Ok then! Wow, can't wait!

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        • SolidSquid
          MVP
          • Aug 2014
          • 3159

          #49
          Re: Madden NFL 17 Has Ball Physics, New Ways to Eliminate Money Plays & Much More

          Originally posted by Cowboy008
          Really interested in the new kick meter as it seems that your kicker/punter's ratings will play a big role in it. The ball physics are a nice surprise as well. When reading the thing about tackle battle they mention breaking out of a gang tackle. I thought it's only for the 1 on 1 stand up tackle?
          Been confirmed its on 1 v 1 tackles

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          • mrprice33
            Just some guy
            • Jul 2003
            • 5986

            #50
            Re: Madden NFL 17 Has Ball Physics, New Ways to Eliminate Money Plays & Much More

            Cowboy you might be thinking of multi player jukes. Tackle battles are restricted to 1-1 standing tackles only


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            • Cowboy008
              MVP
              • Mar 2012
              • 4574

              #51
              Re: Madden NFL 17 Has Ball Physics, New Ways to Eliminate Money Plays & Much More

              Originally posted by mrprice33
              Cowboy you might be thinking of multi player jukes. Tackle battles are restricted to 1-1 standing tackles only


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              Was just asking because this was in the Gameinformer article "Tackle Battles are also controlled by ratings this year. If you're being gang tackled you have a short window to hit a specific button prompt to break out of the gang tackle. This was done automatically last year. Hitting the Tackle Battle button also applies to defenders making the tackle."

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              • bxphenom7
                Pro
                • Feb 2012
                • 593

                #52
                Originally posted by SolidSquid
                Never forget playing my brother for 20$ in APF, throws a bomb to his created gold star randy moss on the last play and it looks like he has my defender beat, then he pulls up limping holding his hammy, non contact injury. It just looked so real.
                Good times with that game for sure. So many little things done well.

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                • mrprice33
                  Just some guy
                  • Jul 2003
                  • 5986

                  #53
                  Re: Madden NFL 17 Has Ball Physics, New Ways to Eliminate Money Plays & Much More

                  Originally posted by Cowboy008
                  Was just asking because this was in the Gameinformer article "Tackle Battles are also controlled by ratings this year. If you're being gang tackled you have a short window to hit a specific button prompt to break out of the gang tackle. This was done automatically last year. Hitting the Tackle Battle button also applies to defenders making the tackle."


                  The game informer article is wrong.

                  Went back and read the EA blog, and it does mention ratings playing a part in the frequency of tackle battles as well. Specifically mentions bigger backs getting them more often when appropriate.

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                  • Senator Palmer
                    MVP
                    • Jul 2008
                    • 3314

                    #54
                    Re: Madden NFL 17 Has Ball Physics, New Ways to Eliminate Money Plays & Much More

                    If this stuff works as advertised, I can see a lot of hate coming from a large segment of the online crowd. I can just hear the crying now when those pattern-matched zones eat up all those routes that used to be gimmes.

                    In that scenario I hope they stand their ground and don't tune the greatness out of the game. They're on the right track dragging everyone into the realm of real football.
                    "A man can only be beaten in two ways: if he gives up, or if he dies."

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                    • 4thQtrStre5S
                      MVP
                      • Nov 2013
                      • 3051

                      #55
                      Re: Madden NFL 17 Has Ball Physics, New Ways to Eliminate Money Plays & Much More

                      Originally posted by mrprice33
                      The game informer article is wrong.

                      Went back and read the EA blog, and it does mention ratings playing a part in the frequency of tackle battles as well. Specifically mentions bigger backs getting them more often when appropriate.
                      Just wanted to quote the blog article:

                      "Tackle Battles. This is a twitch mechanic that gives uers the ball the ability to influence the outcome of tackles as both the ball carrier or the defender making the tackle.

                      Whenever a defender and ball carrier get locked up in a standing tackle, a random face-button will appear on screen – the first player in the tackle battle to hit that button, wins the tackle battle. For the defender, this means completing the tackle and for the ball carrier, a win is breaking the tackle. The size of the timing window and the frequency of tackle battles are determined by the ratings and styles of both players in the tackle battle. A bruiser running back is more likely to get a tackle battle with a linebacker than a cornerback. "



                      Sounds like a mechanic for users to make an input on a very specific event, stand up collision; the ratings and styles determine the majority of the event, from when they happen and who has the advantage, by timing when the button to be pressed appears, or maybe how long u have to press it once it does appear?

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                      • mrprice33
                        Just some guy
                        • Jul 2003
                        • 5986

                        #56
                        Re: Madden NFL 17 Has Ball Physics, New Ways to Eliminate Money Plays & Much More

                        As far as I understand it that's exactly how it works.


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                        • DeuceDouglas
                          Madden Dev Team
                          • Apr 2010
                          • 4297

                          #57
                          Re: Madden NFL 17 Has Ball Physics, New Ways to Eliminate Money Plays & Much More

                          Originally posted by Senator Palmer
                          If this stuff works as advertised, I can see a lot of hate coming from a large segment of the online crowd. I can just hear the crying now when those pattern-matched zones eat up all those routes that used to be gimmes.

                          In that scenario I hope they stand their ground and don't tune the greatness out of the game. They're on the right track dragging everyone into the realm of real football.
                          I hope this is the case as well. If they finally make defenders have brains and then patch it out it's going to be horrible lol. I also hope that even though we're hearing all about zones and pattern matching that they improved man a bit as well. Specifically the TE corner route or the corner route in general that has been money since the last, last time they fixed defense. If they run that play against man and the defender doesn't perform that weird hip turn the wrong way giving the receiver 10-15 yards of separation I just might shed a tear.

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                          • 4thQtrStre5S
                            MVP
                            • Nov 2013
                            • 3051

                            #58
                            Re: Madden NFL 17 Has Ball Physics, New Ways to Eliminate Money Plays & Much More

                            Originally posted by mrprice33
                            As far as I understand it that's exactly how it works.


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                            Considering the Battle tackle appears to be the biggest concern at this point, I would hope that the next video would highlight this feature to help give people a true feel for what is happening with this new event.

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                            • DeuceDouglas
                              Madden Dev Team
                              • Apr 2010
                              • 4297

                              #59
                              Re: Madden NFL 17 Has Ball Physics, New Ways to Eliminate Money Plays & Much More

                              Originally posted by 4thQtrStre5S
                              Considering the Battle tackle appears to be the biggest concern at this point, I would hope that the next video would highlight this feature to help give people a true feel for what is happening with this new event.
                              I think I saw that Clint will have a blog on it so I wouldn't be surprised if we maybe see that tomorrow just to try and cool down the "chaos" if you want to call it that lol.

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                              • OhMrHanky
                                MVP
                                • Aug 2012
                                • 1898

                                #60
                                Re: Madden NFL 17 Has Ball Physics, New Ways to Eliminate Money Plays & Much More

                                Originally posted by DeuceDouglas
                                I think I saw that Clint will have a blog on it so I wouldn't be surprised if we maybe see that tomorrow just to try and cool down the "chaos" if you want to call it that lol.


                                Lol. I been posting on this forum for 3-4 years, now, I think. And, it's amazing to have seen the tone change with Rex's team. I was disappointed with 12. But, I was personally pleasantly surprised with 13 and saw the change happening (I know most don't love this version, but for me, the physics part of this game was great, but the animations were a bit off/glitchy). But, man, there was so much hate on this forum for madden, which at the time, I was surprised to see. I thought I was the only one that thought it was leaps behind where it should be, and I thought all 'maddenites' actually wanted the game to play as bad as it did. Of course, some still do, lol. They like the arcadey feel more than sim. But, it feels good that right now the biggest issue with the initial release blogs is a tackle battle that prob isn't that bad. I, personally, don't like the button push stuff, myself. But, the fact that this has become the biggest gripe (without even seeing it) actually means that madden is in SUCH A BETTER PLACE than it was a few years ago. Again, hats off to Rex and his team for trying to make a sim football game. I'm looking forward to the new changes in 17 (well, except for the tackle battle. Lol).

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