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  • roadman
    *ll St*r
    • Aug 2003
    • 26339

    #121
    Re: Almost 4 months since launch, what do you all think about this game?

    Originally posted by gametyme89
    That's exactly my point.. The guys who work on these games know the solution already.. it's just them being talented enough to work the coding to make that solution a reality. It's not that they aren't trying.. they just haven't reached that breakthrough yet in their ability to successfully separate all of the modes and have changes only affect certain aspects of the game without affecting the others.
    And that all goes back to Madden 13 when they integrated online and offline and started to call it CFM. They were hoping to streamline all fixes though both areas at once, but it isn't working out as intended.

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    • DeuceDouglas
      Madden Dev Team
      • Apr 2010
      • 4297

      #122
      Re: Almost 4 months since launch, what do you all think about this game?

      Originally posted by howboutdat
      Where does this leave the simulation crowd then? Its been said here and elsewhere 1000 times, we are the minority in this . By a large number they claim. So if they are just going to , in the end, really just cater more to the casual/tourney peps, what does that mean for future titles? To me it kinda leaves only two options. Either they provide a sim/arcade gameplay modes with silders that actually work or it just simply wont be worth buying anymore. I dont see any other choice for the future of this game. Because the above are the facts, there are more of "them" and not as much of us, thus they will cater more to "them" .
      I'd be interested to know just how much of a minority the simulation really crowd is. Obviously it's something that will never be quantifiable and I know it's always said but I don't feel like it's as black and white as it's portrayed a lot of the time. I feel like you have the 1%'s at each end of the spectrum, one being the hardcore sim guys with the other end being the tourney players who are basically equal minorities. Then at each end you have a large group of the "normal" simulation and online players and in the middle you have the largest group which is essentially the casual player which could basically lean either way but I'd say more likely towards the online side. But as I write this there's only a little over 9K playing online (XB1) and the achievement for creating a MUT team is only unlocked by 38% of gamers. That doesn't mean that the simulation crowd still isn't a large minority but I feel like the labeling of the simulation crowd as basically the 1% while the rest is strictly the MUT and tourney crowd has always been a misnomer.

      But to that extent I think distinctly separating the two would be a big step backwards. They've shown time and time again that the offline player takes a backseat to the online gamer and separating them would do more to hurt that divide than it would to bridge it IMO. Best case scenario is, like you mentioned, Sim/Arcade modes with working (and expanded) sliders similar to 2K that allow offline/online & sim/arcade to coincide on the same axis so that everybody wins.

      Originally posted by Junior Moe
      They're getting my money every year so it really doesn't matter. But it would be nice if they had a person like Mr. Looman, the guy behind Head Coach, plugging away at franchise mode. He'd show up in forums and give us his take and take our feedback on wishlists and such.
      I believe Looman is still part of the CFM team, he's just no longer the lead like he was before but I'm pretty sure CFM was his brainchild. But what you mentioned is one of my biggest issues with CFM and I've mentioned it before but that's the complete lack of transparency when it comes to the mode. It doesn't feel like there's any back and forth at all in regards to the direction of the mode and I think that is something that really hurts the quality of the mode as a whole. They've been in a bad spot since they stripped everything down and introduced CFM though and even the greatest communication or back and forth would only get them so far with so much stuff to add and not enough time on a yearly basis to get to it.

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      • walls17
        Rookie
        • Sep 2015
        • 123

        #123
        Re: Almost 4 months since launch, what do you all think about this game?

        Also one more thing about 2k is that at least when youre playing myleague/mygm, when you are loading into a game you dont see promos for myteam or anything like that. (i havent played 2k17 yet, although now that i am thinking more, in 2k16 there might have been myteam promos in loading screens but not to the extent that is in madden)

        basically my point is, keep the modes separate. i havent and wont ever touch mut, and its annoying with the amount of loading screens in this game that i always see the same mut related ones.

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        • CleveCluby
          Pro
          • Feb 2003
          • 808

          #124
          Re: Almost 4 months since launch, what do you all think about this game?

          Walls17... Wow that is an excellent point. I never even thought about that, When you turn on Madden, or switching main screens. All the promotions, advertisements, are about MUT and OL.. I have yet to see even one that promotes FRANCHISE. Correct me if I am wrong, But that was supposed to be the big selling point this year.

          I guess that alone should give you a great insight as to where EA's support and attention lies.
          When I do something right, No one ever remembers.
          When I do something wrong, No one ever forgets.!

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          • LionsFanNJ
            All Star
            • Apr 2006
            • 9464

            #125
            Re: Almost 4 months since launch, what do you all think about this game?

            4 months in and this is not the game I was playing at launch. The last few title updates has removed this game from my playlist. With the never miss qbs to the non existent fg misses (not to mention blocked kicks have all but disappeared now), I cannot play this game going forward.

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            • ajra21
              MVP
              • Oct 2011
              • 2170

              #126
              Re: Almost 4 months since launch, what do you all think about this game?

              Best Madden in years. I only play CFM and it's the best they've ever had. Still some small tweaks to make but in general, it's good.

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              • roadman
                *ll St*r
                • Aug 2003
                • 26339

                #127
                Re: Almost 4 months since launch, what do you all think about this game?

                Like Junior, I'm not going to put one extra cent into a game I've already purchased. So, those MUT or DC ads the pop up on occasion(I don't see the all the time I turn on the game because I leave games in the middle sometimes), they don't bother me a bit.

                I've seen 2k advertise VC upon start-up and it doesn't bother me, so, it's just something easy for me to ignore.

                It's like advertising a tasty cheeseburger on TV, if it looks good, you will race out to get it. If cheeseburgers aren't your thing, it's easy to ignore them.

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                • Rocket32
                  MVP
                  • May 2016
                  • 1639

                  #128
                  Re: Almost 4 months since launch, what do you all think about this game?

                  Originally posted by LionsFanNJ
                  4 months in and this is not the game I was playing at launch. The last few title updates has removed this game from my playlist. With the never miss qbs to the non existent fg misses (not to mention blocked kicks have all but disappeared now), I cannot play this game going forward.

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                  Same for me. Gave up on Madden until things are fixed a while back. Been playing mainly NBA2K and BF1.

                  Just to chime in on what a few others are mentioning, the loading screen advertisements don't bother me. The things that bother me is a lack of effort and quality in CFM along with multiple other things like the poster I quoted mentioned.

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                  • timhere1970
                    MVP
                    • Sep 2013
                    • 1810

                    #129
                    Re: Almost 4 months since launch, what do you all think about this game?

                    Originally posted by CleveCluby
                    Walls17... Wow that is an excellent point. I never even thought about that, When you turn on Madden, or switching main screens. All the promotions, advertisements, are about MUT and OL.. I have yet to see even one that promotes FRANCHISE. Correct me if I am wrong, But that was supposed to be the big selling point this year.

                    I guess that alone should give you a great insight as to where EA's support and attention lies.
                    That is just basic business. They don't advertise franchise within the game because it would only be advertising to people who already have the game and does not lead to any revenue. No marketing department in any business would do that. The purpose of marketing is sales.

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                    • timhere1970
                      MVP
                      • Sep 2013
                      • 1810

                      #130
                      Re: Almost 4 months since launch, what do you all think about this game?

                      Originally posted by roadman
                      Like Junior, I'm not going to put one extra cent into a game I've already purchased. So, those MUT or DC ads the pop up on occasion(I don't see the all the time I turn on the game because I leave games in the middle sometimes), they don't bother me a bit.

                      I've seen 2k advertise VC upon start-up and it doesn't bother me, so, it's just something easy for me to ignore.

                      It's like advertising a tasty cheeseburger on TV, if it looks good, you will race out to get it. If cheeseburgers aren't your thing, it's easy to ignore them.
                      Too early in the morning. Your making me hungry.

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                      • geardla
                        Just started!
                        • Nov 2016
                        • 4

                        #131
                        Re: Almost 4 months since launch, what do you all think about this game?

                        I don't feel it's improved any and there has been some regression to the game, but I don't see some of the regressions because I found sliders that combat the high completion percentages on all pro.

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                        • cuoreceltico
                          Rookie
                          • Nov 2015
                          • 283

                          #132
                          Re: Almost 4 months since launch, what do you all think about this game?

                          I like generally the game without latest patch, the only one thing that initially I love that actually really hate is the commentary, seem very unrealistic and annoying. I prefer actual real speaker no doubt.
                          Why so serious??

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                          • CalmLikeABomb
                            Rookie
                            • Mar 2009
                            • 134

                            #133
                            Re: Almost 4 months since launch, what do you all think about this game?

                            Okay I am trying to pick some games to buy on PS4 to buy with the discounts and the 10 percent code. Madden 17 is one of my maybes. I have Madden 16, so my question is what do you think is the better experience. Madden 16 fully patched with sliders or Madden 17 in current state? Thanks in advance for advice.

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                            • ajra21
                              MVP
                              • Oct 2011
                              • 2170

                              #134
                              Re: Almost 4 months since launch, what do you all think about this game?

                              Originally posted by CalmLikeABomb
                              Okay I am trying to pick some games to buy on PS4 to buy with the discounts and the 10 percent code. Madden 17 is one of my maybes. I have Madden 16, so my question is what do you think is the better experience. Madden 16 fully patched with sliders or Madden 17 in current state? Thanks in advance for advice.
                              M17 >>> M16 for me, and i really liked M16.

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                              • mtmetcalfe
                                Rookie
                                • Jun 2009
                                • 491

                                #135
                                Re: Almost 4 months since launch, what do you all think about this game?

                                Originally posted by CalmLikeABomb
                                Okay I am trying to pick some games to buy on PS4 to buy with the discounts and the 10 percent code. Madden 17 is one of my maybes. I have Madden 16, so my question is what do you think is the better experience. Madden 16 fully patched with sliders or Madden 17 in current state? Thanks in advance for advice.
                                I didn't play '16 but '17 is great. I would say if you are going to purchase Madden I would buy the physical disc. If you want to play without the patches I don't think you have that option. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong.

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