I have seen a few threads on this topic, but I will throw mine in anyways because this is a little ridiculous. In this video I see that I can get a 1v1 with Bell against the other team's safety so I flip the play accordingly. Play never gets that far. Fullback Michael Burton never blocks his assignment, the OLB. Runs right past him. I never run away from the block, in fact I run right behind Burton and he doesn't even touch him. The result, of course, is a Bell fumble and we lose the ball. That's another thing, Bell has a 99 carry rating. What's up with that? I even tuned the fumble slider to decrease them a tiny bit as I had been seeing way too many of them. Burton has a 83 awareness rating and is a mid 80 overall. Why is this still happening? It's not just fullbacks either, lineman do it as well.
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I've had the same exact thing happen. People will most likely come in and say it's due to low run blocking and awareness.
As for the fumble, if that was Bells only fumble for the season then that's fine. Just unfortunate.
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Go read Clint Oldenburg Tweets, he explains this very topic and what's going on.
Also, 99 doesn't mean 99% of something will/will not occur, it's an increased "chance" of something triggering/occurring, but not in the sense of it meaning a definite outcome.
(this is from some of Clint's Tweets)Comment
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As khaliib said this is definitely a know issue, and Clint has spoken about it on Twitter with people a lot. Since I'm a run first player who loves to try and use all the runs in the playbook this issue is probably in my top five of programming issues that cause me frustration.
From a coding standpoint, they've just got to find a way to increase the speed of the targeting acquisition by the blockers by like half a second, and/or improve the pre-snap threat assessment hierarchy of targeting choices as well. They need to do it without any warping by the blockers though.
On some plays when every blocker has that extra beat to recognize the right defender to target, running can be a thing of beauty.
When their holiday break is over and they are back to tweeting regularly again, I'm going to send a tweet to Rex, looping in Clint, asking him find the development time to let his boy do some more trench work this cycle. It's clear that Clint know what has to be done, it's just a matter of how far down the priority list this is.Jordan Mychal Lemos
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Its very frustrating to say the least. That and the fact that RBs that are controlled by the computer rarely hit the open areas of the field. I've played QB for the 49ers and the Steelers and both Bell and Hyde would consistently run directly for a defender when it made no sense whatsoever.
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With so many issues and things still broke in Madden is why I stick with Madden on the PS2.
They have some issues buts it's nothing to the mistakes of this generation of Madden.
Right now I playing Madden 04 with costume sliders for All-Madden and gething great results from the comp with play clock management and play calling on both sides of the ball. 👍Comment
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That is very annoying...sucks when you feel you picked the correct play with one guy to beat and you have a good blocking TE/OL/FB out in front only for that one guy to be untouched.Comment
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I saw a response from Clint the other day to a similar play but on a pass play and he said "This is play-action pass - a legacy protection system that I've openly stated is badly in need of an overhaul. Convince Rex to let me do it." I made a post in the impressions thread a while ago with 5 or 6 GIFs of lineman doing just absurdly stupid things and with as common as it is, especially in the pass game, I'd really hope it's high on the priority list going into next year because it is one of those things that definitively ruins the experience. Unfortunately though I think this is one of those things that would take a ton of work and wouldn't be very marketable so the "bang-for-buck" value just isn't there. I really hope I'm wrong though because line play is one of the quintessential aspects of football and still relying on the severely dated and unacceptable line play.Comment
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Not sure what mode the OP is playing, but I play against the CPU on All Madden and this appears to be intentional behavior apparently as a handicap to the user.
The CPU run blockers instantly warp to my defensive players and stick to them like glue. Then when I run a sweep or Power O, the fullback and guard just float around like hot air balloons, refusing to block defenders and blocking me from running lanes.
Ratings don't seem to matter either, the same thing seems to happen with 90 rated blockers as with 70 rated ones.Comment
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Re: Fullbacks/Lineman Refusing To Block
In past Madden's upping the RBK Slider was at least a temporary fix. Definitely saw fewer missed assignments.The Impact of User vs User Sliders In CFM 5.0*
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Re: Fullbacks/Lineman Refusing To Block
Burton's assignment was the safety, and he ran around the LB to get to him. Kinda dumb, but what I've come to expect.Comment
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Also, if you hit speed boost, that kind of kills all blocking assignments and most of your guys will disengage their blocks or stop attempting to make one.Comment
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U know what's kind of weird? I played around with RBK slider on multiple versions of madden. And, the last few years, I actually found that when I lowered RBK, that somehow the FB, specifically, really seemed to target the 'nearest threat' instead of the 'pre-snap threat'. I found it to hover around 20-25. I had it working in M17 on all-pro at 23, I believe. But, one of the updates seemed to break this. ☹️. Lol. It seemed like a combo of 2 things to me. 1. Pre-snap blocking assignment felt like it was sort of turned off or something at a low RBK. 2. I noticed A LOT of impact blocks at this low setting as well. And, as wonderful as it looked to see my FB cutting the legs out from under LBs, it was sort of overpowering. And, my Oline on screens were AWESOME!!! They would annihilate safeties, again, with straight up chop blocks. Lol. But, after the latest patch, I couldn't find a sweet spot for the RBK, anymore.
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