Madden NFL 18 Will Transition to the Frostbite Engine

[PhillyPhanatic14]

Re: Madden 18 Frostbite confirmed on EA Shareholders Call today

Anybody that plays FIFA religiously that can say how much it changed that game outside of visually? Was it still all pretty much the same animations and such or did that completely change?

I ask because if they're still going to be dealing heavily with the "legacy code" that has plagued things for the last ten years then this isn't going to make much of a difference. If it allows them to start fresh and build certain aspects from the ground up, namely OL play and the passing game, then it could be great.

Played over 500 hours of both FIFA 15 and 16 and played around 200 of 17 so far. Massive overhaul to animations in 17 and the graphics are insane. Stadiums look and feel more alive. The game plays so much better though. For instance, last year if the ball was going "near" a player they would automatically get a touch on it. In 17 that doesn't happen. It has to actually touch them for them to interact with it. There's no suction anymore. It's sick. I had a penalty shot last night that the goalie dove for and his legs were spread because he was in the air diving and the ball went right between his legs. Last year that would've been saved because it was "near" the goalie. Tough to explain without a video but hopefully I explained it decently well. This is going to be a game changer for madden.

[jbd345]

Re: Madden NFL 18 Will Transition to the Frostbite Engine

Hopefully now we can finally have true "living worlds". Dynamic weather, dynamic sidelines, a true stadium atmosphere. The graphical upgrades should be huge as well.

[adub88]

Re: Madden NFL 18 Will Transition to the Frostbite Engine

I had a gut feeling this was happening especially when there where no head scan updates.. Nice to have clarity on it

[JohnDoe8865]

Re: Madden NFL 18 Will Transition to the Frostbite Engine

Hopefully the Frostbite engine will bring us true Living Worlds that were initially advertised with the transition to this gen. No more generic sideline player models with no names on jerseys & same facemask for every player, add chearleaders, mascots, etc... I'm curious to see what this will do for impoving player movement, physics (player clipping), cloth physics (grabbing jerseys, etc..) Don't let us down EA.

Hopefully now we can finally have true "living worlds". Dynamic weather, dynamic sidelines, a true stadium atmosphere. The graphical upgrades should be huge as well.

Do y'all remember the promises and hype from the reveal of the "Ignite" engine? It was all about living worlds, real human intelligence, true player motion, etc?

I'll wait and see if Frostbite makes any real tangible difference. Hopefully it's a much larger leap than "Ignite" was this generation.

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[Lexicon]

Re: Madden 18 Frostbite confirmed on EA Shareholders Call today

Played over 500 hours of both FIFA 15 and 16 and played around 200 of 17 so far. Massive overhaul to animations in 17 and the graphics are insane. Stadiums look and feel more alive. The game plays so much better though. For instance, last year if the ball was going "near" a player they would automatically get a touch on it. In 17 that doesn't happen. It has to actually touch them for them to interact with it. There's no suction anymore. It's sick. I had a penalty shot last night that the goalie dove for and his legs were spread because he was in the air diving and the ball went right between his legs. Last year that would've been saved because it was "near" the goalie. Tough to explain without a video but hopefully I explained it decently well. This is going to be a game changer for madden.

I actually scored a goal between a defenders legs a few days ago. I have no idea if that is something that would have happened in previous FIFA's or not, but I was pretty excited to see something like that happen.

Spoiler

EDIT: here's video https://account.xbox.com/en-US/gamec...84&shell=false

I actually enjoyed the FIFA 17 trial so much that I went out and bought it it lol. Like, I was jonesing to play it so bad, I couldn't wait the 2 months it would take for it to show up on Access. Got a good $30 deal on it, too. haha

[KennyJ1976]

Honestly, I believe the Frostbite Engine is all hype. I play FIFA on a regular basis and besides the better lighting, and slightly better physics, I really don't see much of a difference between FIFA 17 and FIFA 14. So I'm not expecting a significant jump from Madden 17 to Madden 18.

[issaknife]

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I'm really hoping this means they start fresh. One of the things holding this game back is that there are just a lot of legacy issues. FIFA has really good jostling, hopefully they implement that into Madden. Would be great for WR/DB interactions and hopefully lineplay.

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[ODogg]

Re: Madden NFL 18 Will Transition to the Frostbite Engine

Honestly, I believe the Frostbite Engine is all hype. I play FIFA on a regular basis and besides the better lighting, and slightly better physics, I really don't see much of a difference between FIFA 17 and FIFA 14. So I'm not expecting a significant jump from Madden 17 to Madden 18.

What? There's a huge difference with interactions between players and the physics as well... I am expecting the same for Madden

[jfsolo]

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It will be better of course, but as has been mentioned, how big a leap they make will be partially determined by how much more of the problematic legacy coding they are able to strip out during this development cycle.

Regardless, I'm excited by this news, I expected it to be another year off.

[4thQtrStre5S]

Re: Madden NFL 18 Will Transition to the Frostbite Engine

I expected M18 to be run by Frostbite...I can definitely imagine an improvement to animations, uniforms and how they interact with the player model, general physics, and such....Also, if Battlefield 1 is any indication of ability and quality of the engine, if the Goodyear Blimp crashes onto the field, it will be an awesome sight..

[PhillyPhanatic14]

Re: Madden NFL 18 Will Transition to the Frostbite Engine

I expected M18 to be run by Frostbite...I can definitely imagine an improvement to animations, uniforms and how they interact with the player model, general physics, and such....Also, if Battlefield 1 is any indication of ability and quality of the engine, if the Goodyear Blimp crashes onto the field, it will be an awesome sight..

Or if the field explodes during the kickoff return like in Dark Knight Rises

[HenryClay1844]

Anybody that plays FIFA religiously that can say how much it changed that game outside of visually? Was it still all pretty much the same animations and such or did that completely change?

I ask because if they're still going to be dealing heavily with the "legacy code" that has plagued things for the last ten years then this isn't going to make much of a difference. If it allows them to start fresh and build certain aspects from the ground up, namely OL play and the passing game, then it could be great.

FIFA 17 is the worst FIFA of all time. The coding is horrible. The ball moves in unrealistic ways to bend to a character. Just look at some of the videos on youtube that talk about the awful ball AI this year. If that is an indication of what Frostbite does for sports games, look out Madden.

[Jr.]

Re: Madden NFL 18 Will Transition to the Frostbite Engine

It will be better of course, but as has been mentioned, how big a leap they make will be partially determined by how much more of the problematic legacy coding they are able to strip out during this development cycle.

Regardless, I'm excited by this news, I expected it to be another year off.

I thought they would have to re-write the code for a new engine. Is that not the case with this?

[PhillyPhanatic14]

Re: Madden NFL 18 Will Transition to the Frostbite Engine

FIFA 17 is the worst FIFA of all time. The coding is horrible. The ball moves in unrealistic ways to bend to a character. Just look at some of the videos on youtube that talk about the awful ball AI this year. If that is an indication of what Frostbite does for sports games, look out Madden.

Lol. Might wanna play the game before you post dumb stuff.

[issaknife]

Re: Madden NFL 18 Will Transition to the Frostbite Engine

FIFA 17 is the worst FIFA of all time. The coding is horrible. The ball moves in unrealistic ways to bend to a character. Just look at some of the videos on youtube that talk about the awful ball AI this year. If that is an indication of what Frostbite does for sports games, look out Madden.

I've heard the exact opposite, and from the little bit of gameplay I've seen, it looks like a good game. Also, no way in hell is it worse than fifa 14. That game was pure garbage.

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