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  • ODogg
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    • Feb 2003
    • 37953

    #241
    Re: Madden NFL 18 Features New Target Passing, Coverage Assignments & More

    Originally posted by CM Hooe
    Not a bad idea, but if you remap right trigger to "throw the ball", how do you break the pocket / scramble?

    Sprint is mapped to R2 / RT in every other gameplay context, I'd personally be hesitant to change it for just one gameplay state if it were my decision to make.
    Uh no, they aren't going to be changing R2, LOL
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    • SolidSquid
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      • Aug 2014
      • 3159

      #242
      Re: Madden NFL 18 Features New Target Passing, Coverage Assignments & More

      I highly doubt they add any more input to the actual passing mechanic. It's why people still freak out over the vision cone they couldn't handle aiming and throwing. I think it will simply be each qb will have a "throw radius". So imagine throwing to X there is basically a "target" around player X. The higher rated the qb the smaller the circle or target the lower rated qb the bigger the target. No the football can land in any spot in said target, thus giving higher qb more accurate target and lower rated ones higher chances of overthrows underthrows or offline ones

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      • 4thQtrStre5S
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        • Nov 2013
        • 3051

        #243
        Re: Madden NFL 18 Features New Target Passing, Coverage Assignments & More

        If target passing does use a system where you place your pass using the right analog stick and then the right trigger to throw, then all your other button previously used to throw to a specific receiver could be open.

        Of course, there would need to be an option to use or not use the new target system if this was the case.


        To integrate both passing systems to be used simultaneously, I would have to think on more. But I am sure EA/Tiburon got something working...Probably not as elaborate as have been suggested here..

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        • Godgers12
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          • Dec 2012
          • 2265

          #244
          Re: Madden NFL 18 Features New Target Passing, Coverage Assignments & More

          Target passing probably works in conjunction with icon passing, it's most likely just a more responsive version of lead passing.
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          • sva91
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            • Feb 2005
            • 2019

            #245
            Re: Madden NFL 18 Features New Target Passing, Coverage Assignments & More

            Originally posted by ODogg
            Uh no, they aren't going to be changing R2, LOL
            Well they have changed it before. In earlier days I remember it being a rapid fire button press to increase speed. But yes, I agree it would be a pretty drastic change.

            But imagine how cool it would be to have guys like Brady and Rodgers move their passing icon from one side of the field to the other super fast, with a lock-in mechanic used in FPS games to choose recievers, whereas lesser qbs like Brock would really struggle to target receivers and go through progressions. It would definitely change how users call plays.

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            • Qcsports4
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              • Feb 2017
              • 165

              #246
              Re: Madden NFL 18 Features New Target Passing, Coverage Assignments & More

              I'm hoping that it's just a refined system of how QB accuracy ratings, how hard buttons are pushed, using the control stick etc. will effect your pases. If EA was to add more and more things to do in order to pass, we'd run out of time to pass because the defense would already be in our backfield by the time we'd find the open receiver. Plus, we have to move our QB around a little in case our pocket collapses on one side to step up to throw. One question I do have that I don't think has been brought up. How will the difficulty levels (Pro, All-Star etc.) effect the gameplay levels (simulation, competition)? What are you alls thoughts on that?

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              • ODogg
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                • Feb 2003
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                #247
                Re: Madden NFL 18 Features New Target Passing, Coverage Assignments & More

                Originally posted by 4thQtrStre5S
                If target passing does use a system where you place your pass using the right analog stick and then the right trigger to throw, then all your other button previously used to throw to a specific receiver could be open.

                Of course, there would need to be an option to use or not use the new target system if this was the case.


                To integrate both passing systems to be used simultaneously, I would have to think on more. But I am sure EA/Tiburon got something working...Probably not as elaborate as have been suggested here..
                You guys are making it overly complicated. In NCAA when they did it before they simply had it where you clicked R3 and a target appeared on the field and then you pressed the button to throw to the target and that was it. Not complicated at all.

                And if you never clicked in R3 then you just used the normal passing mechanic.
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                • ODogg
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                  • Feb 2003
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                  #248
                  Re: Madden NFL 18 Features New Target Passing, Coverage Assignments & More

                  Originally posted by sva91
                  Well they have changed it before. In earlier days I remember it being a rapid fire button press to increase speed. But yes, I agree it would be a pretty drastic change.
                  It's never been a rapid fire button press. NFL2K had something like that though. And the R2 being turbo is now an established standard in sports gaming. That isn't changing.
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                  • Greenblood60
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                    • May 2014
                    • 132

                    #249
                    Re: Madden NFL 18 Features New Target Passing, Coverage Assignments & More

                    Originally posted by jfsolo
                    If it is a mechanic that can be mastered in that way, then the design and implementation of the feature is fundamentally flawed. If you have a QB with 65 awareness and 75 MAC, then it should be physically impossible for any User to maneuver the targeting reticle(or whatever mechanic is used) with anywhere near the same precision as they could with a Tom Brady, regardless of how much they practice with that player. This should be especially true on sim style where ratings are not supposed to be overridden by stick skills.
                    If you're able to be extremely effective with a rookie quarterback you should be that much better with Tom Brady--if the feature is tied to ratings. What can't happen is the feature being too easy to master to where the feature turns into a quasi-exploit.
                    Last edited by Greenblood60; 05-25-2017, 06:06 PM.

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                    • Reed1417
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                      • May 2012
                      • 6120

                      #250
                      Re: Madden NFL 18 Features New Target Passing, Coverage Assignments & More

                      Originally posted by Godgers12
                      Target passing probably works in conjunction with icon passing, it's most likely just a more responsive version of lead passing.
                      This is all I want it to be. Nothing more. We have enough to worry about and look at as is haha.

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                      • ODogg
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                        #251
                        Re: Madden NFL 18 Features New Target Passing, Coverage Assignments & More

                        If there is no target while passing then it's not target passing. It's just the same thing Madden has always has improved in some fashion.
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                        • underdog13
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                          • Apr 2012
                          • 3222

                          #252
                          Re: Madden NFL 18 Features New Target Passing, Coverage Assignments & More

                          Originally posted by XtremeDunkz
                          An option would ruin the game for online play. Settings have to be standard across the board. It is already bad enough playing in a league where a few people use all of the user assists because to make themselves artificially better. Being able to use classic passing instead of learning the new mechanic is another cop out for online play.
                          Mlb the show seems to work alright with different hitting and Pitching systems online.

                          And the most iconic gameplay part of madden is the passing system. No way they get rid of it

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                          • GameBreaker35
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                            • May 2012
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                            #253
                            Madden NFL 18 Features New Target Passing, Coverage Assignments & More

                            If they add a reticle on-screen, I would be utterly, completely shocked. I am confident that it will be a loosing of the lead feature, already in-game, that will allow for wider array of passes. Meaning it will require a better mastery of the left stick sensitivity to put the ball where you want it. Which would be damn cool actually.

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                            • TMJOHNS18
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                              • May 2011
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                              #254
                              Re: Madden NFL 18 Features New Target Passing, Coverage Assignments & More

                              I like the idea of a throwing radius, size depending on the QBs accuracy rating and awareness. High AWR gives a QB a more consistent radius, where lower gives them a more random one.

                              Pair this with a WR catch radius, using catch and AWR the same and perhaps you can have a system were elite WRs make subpar QBs look good, and vice versa with Brady making cast aways household names.

                              Let it be present on the field like the tackle cone, and visually disable-able like the tackle cone.

                              Sure it's not a 'target' but I'm sure marketing doesnt view 'area' passing as catchy.

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                              • SolidSquid
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                                • Aug 2014
                                • 3159

                                #255
                                Re: Madden NFL 18 Features New Target Passing, Coverage Assignments & More

                                Originally posted by TMJOHNS18
                                I like the idea of a throwing radius, size depending on the QBs accuracy rating and awareness. High AWR gives a QB a more consistent radius, where lower gives them a more random one.

                                Pair this with a WR catch radius, using catch and AWR the same and perhaps you can have a system were elite WRs make subpar QBs look good, and vice versa with Brady making cast aways household names.

                                Let it be present on the field like the tackle cone, and visually disable-able like the tackle cone.

                                Sure it's not a 'target' but I'm sure marketing doesnt view 'area' passing as catchy.
                                Love this idea

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