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  • Rebel10
    MVP
    • Jan 2003
    • 1162

    #31
    Re: Madden 18 CFM Interview with Clint Oldenburg(Sports Gamers Online)

    Originally posted by Americas Team
    Blaming no pro bowl on the current gen hardware, really? If anything it's the software technology their using.
    Yeah, this is completely ridiculous.

    It has nothing to do with technical specifications or limitations, it has everything to do with development priority, driven by revenue. There isn't a revenue incentive for EA to spend the development time building in a Pro Bowl. Yet, there is the revenue incentive for EA to make an Ultimate Feast Turkey MUT card



    There's nothing technical preventing anything, it's about revenue priority. For Madden NFL Football, turkey-based trading cards are a higher revenue priority than accurately portraying an NFL season.

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    • roadman
      *ll St*r
      • Aug 2003
      • 26339

      #32
      Re: Madden 18 CFM Interview with Clint Oldenburg(Sports Gamers Online)

      Based on the TV ratings alone, it's barely in the conversation as part of the "NFL Season."

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      • cuoreceltico
        Rookie
        • Nov 2015
        • 283

        #33
        Re: Madden 18 CFM Interview with Clint Oldenburg(Sports Gamers Online)

        pro bowl is boring and useless
        Why so serious??

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        • ODogg
          Hall Of Fame
          • Feb 2003
          • 37953

          #34
          Re: Madden 18 CFM Interview with Clint Oldenburg(Sports Gamers Online)

          I couldn't care less about the Pro Bowl in real life or in Madden.
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          • roadman
            *ll St*r
            • Aug 2003
            • 26339

            #35
            Re: Madden 18 CFM Interview with Clint Oldenburg(Sports Gamers Online)

            I did enjoy Clint's response about HC.

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            • JayhawkerStL
              Banned
              • Apr 2004
              • 3644

              #36
              Re: Madden 18 CFM Interview with Clint Oldenburg(Sports Gamers Online)

              Originally posted by CM Hooe
              I certainly trust his opinion - informed by more importantly his continued employment at EA Tiburon and his working with people who possess the specific technical know-how as to why Madden can and can't do things, but also by my own knowledge having worked as a client-side engineer in 3D video games - over yours.
              Listen, man, gamers want things. If devs can't be bothered to rewrite the rules of physics to give them what they want, then it's obvious they are just lazy or bad at their jobs. Gamers are special, beloved creatures, and the mere existence of their desires is clear evidence that what they want is possible. Why do you hate gamers???

              Stop covering for the overlords of gaming that continually deprive gamers of their entitled wants.

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              • adembroski
                49ers
                • Jul 2002
                • 5829

                #37
                Re: Madden 18 CFM Interview with Clint Oldenburg(Sports Gamers Online)

                Pro bowl isn't in the game because there isn't a pipeline built that can allocate the memory to handle 32 helmets. It's not "there isn't enough memory," it's "allocating the memory would require far more man hours and potential bug introduction than a feature that a fraction of a fraction of players care about is worth"

                Call it lazy if you want, I call it priorities. The people complaining about it here are approximately 87% of the people who watch the real Pro Bowl.

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                • bakerboy
                  Rookie
                  • May 2009
                  • 21

                  #38
                  Re: Madden 18 CFM Interview with Clint Oldenburg(Sports Gamers Online)

                  Originally posted by adembroski
                  Pro bowl isn't in the game because there isn't a pipeline built that can allocate the memory to handle 32 helmets. It's not "there isn't enough memory," it's "allocating the memory would require far more man hours and potential bug introduction than a feature that a fraction of a fraction of players care about is worth"

                  Call it lazy if you want, I call it priorities. The people complaining about it here are approximately 87% of the people who watch the real Pro Bowl.

                  Sent from my SM-G930P using Operation Sports mobile app
                  I think the answer Oldenburg provided to this question in addition to his overall body language towards the interview itself is the issue ppl have. It's not about the pro-bowl feature. Its more-so about the fact that there's always some excuse as to why fill in the blank feature couldn't make it into the game. This is even more apparent when you see other game devs doing everything they can to ensure they cover most if not all of the features that their respective customer base expect. B/c they know if they don't provide it, then one of their competitors will. Oh wait...

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                  • ODogg
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Feb 2003
                    • 37953

                    #39
                    Re: Madden 18 CFM Interview with Clint Oldenburg(Sports Gamers Online)

                    If something isn't in the game there is a reason for it. It's not "an excuse" as you call it. Other games aren't all inclusive and have things left out of them as well. They too have reasons for it.


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                    • reverend_heat
                      MVP
                      • Aug 2002
                      • 1775

                      #40
                      Re: Madden 18 CFM Interview with Clint Oldenburg(Sports Gamers Online)

                      Originally posted by CT Pittbull
                      Being someone who was screaming for the "quick season" from NCAA 14 to come into Madden, I LOVE the sound of this "Play Now Live" feature. Sounds exactly what I want to play. No off-field fluff just legit rosters and stats to pick up and play a full season.

                      Im sure CFM fans arent excited about this but I am.lol
                      As someone who has wanted the basic season mode back since CFM was introduced, I'm hopeful you can have 32 team control in the Play Now Live mode and avoid the butchering of the rosters that simming preseason does every time. Has anybody heard if 32 team control is in play now live?

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                      • countryboy
                        Growing pains
                        • Sep 2003
                        • 52707

                        #41
                        Re: Madden 18 CFM Interview with Clint Oldenburg(Sports Gamers Online)

                        Originally posted by jmurphy31
                        Watched the video. Good to hear about CPU Ai has been improved in game and also new playboy's
                        I may have to re-think my purchasing decision of Madden after reading this.


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                        • SmashMan
                          All Star
                          • Dec 2004
                          • 9698

                          #42
                          Re: Madden 18 CFM Interview with Clint Oldenburg(Sports Gamers Online)

                          Originally posted by bakerboy
                          I think the answer Oldenburg provided to this question in addition to his overall body language towards the interview itself is the issue ppl have.
                          We're really making a judgment based on body language now? That's a new one.

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                          • Toupal
                            MVP
                            • May 2014
                            • 1296

                            #43
                            Re: Madden 18 CFM Interview with Clint Oldenburg(Sports Gamers Online)

                            It's nice to see my old mock-ups getting used for something! haha

                            After watching numerous interviews with Clint and Rex, I am a firm believer that they want what I want as well. That is an in-depth franchise mode.

                            As far as "How" they do that, I have no idea what it is they want.

                            Personally I would love to have something similar to NBA 2k, but I think we the resources EA has, they have the ability to be better than 2k. It is just a matter of allowing them to make the game they want.

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                            • jfsolo
                              Live Action, please?
                              • May 2003
                              • 12965

                              #44
                              Re: Madden 18 CFM Interview with Clint Oldenburg(Sports Gamers Online)

                              Originally posted by SmashMan
                              We're really making a judgment based on body language now? That's a new one.
                              I said it on Twitter and I'll say it here, it's either absurd trolling or some kind of neurosis.
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                              • N51_rob
                                Faceuary!
                                • Jul 2003
                                • 14805

                                #45
                                Re: Madden 18 CFM Interview with Clint Oldenburg(Sports Gamers Online)

                                Originally posted by SageInfinite
                                Pro Bowl is simply not a priority. If it was, they'd figure out a way to make it happen...
                                Originally posted by JayD
                                I guarantee that the majority of people, like myself, would skip the pro bowl. I'm sure this is not a high priority and the extra ram can be used for other more important aspects of the game.
                                Agree with both these points 100%. Its not a big deal and probably shouldn't be a real focus.

                                That said, I think it would be cool if in CFM you could as the Commish assign coaches to it, so that the two guys that lost in the Championship game would be able to play/coach the Pro Bowl as a consolation of sorts.
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