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  • SageInfinite
    Stop The GOAT Talk
    • Jul 2002
    • 11896

    #241
    Re: Only 2 1/2 Weeks to EA Access and No Gameplay... Concerned?

    Originally posted by aholbert32
    I don't give a **** about the date honestly. I'll play the game on EA access and decide if I want to buy the game from there.


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    • deu22ces
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      • Jun 2010
      • 207

      #242
      Re: Only 2 1/2 Weeks to EA Access and No Gameplay... Concerned?

      Originally posted by aholbert32
      Huh?

      The game releases in 3 weeks not 2. Ea does have a marketing department. The game I'm helping with is an extension of a multi billion dollar
      Enterprise.


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      Lol, just please take it to PM if you guys want to get personal about it.

      I answered the question you posed but it got quickly buried. I do not think you (or EA as we now know) is hiding the game you're working on b/c as you stated, no one "formally" knows it exists yet. You can't 'hide' something from someone if they don't know you have it in the first place.

      You are still developing your game. It's incomplete. Madden is wrapped up, discs are probably done. It is "apples and oranges" IMO in that regard.

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      • aholbert32
        (aka Alberto)
        • Jul 2002
        • 33106

        #243
        Re: Only 2 1/2 Weeks to EA Access and No Gameplay... Concerned?

        Originally posted by SageInfinite
        You know you buying that ****!


        Lol!! You know I am too but let's worst case scenario this. Let's say the game absolutely sucks. It's takes a step back from 17 and I hate the game while playing it on access.

        I'll just cancel my preorder and move on. It's no loss to me. It's no loss to most people.


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        • aholbert32
          (aka Alberto)
          • Jul 2002
          • 33106

          #244
          Re: Only 2 1/2 Weeks to EA Access and No Gameplay... Concerned?

          Originally posted by deu22ces
          Lol, just please take it to PM if you guys want to get personal about it.



          I answered the question you posed but it got quickly buried. I do not think you (or EA as we now know) is hiding the game you're working on b/c as you stated, no one "formally" knows it exists yet. You can't 'hide' something from someone if they don't know you have it in the first place.



          You are still developing your game. It's incomplete. Madden is wrapped up, discs are probably done. It is "apples and oranges" IMO in that regard.


          The game has probably only been gold for a week or so at this point. My point remains the same though. I get that people want to see the game. I do. I just don't think that it matters.

          When they release videos is not going to effect if you buy the game or not. If they release videos next Tuesday and people like them, People will buy it. If they hate them, people will cancel preorders or will wait until Ea access to buy the game.




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          • SageInfinite
            Stop The GOAT Talk
            • Jul 2002
            • 11896

            #245
            Re: Only 2 1/2 Weeks to EA Access and No Gameplay... Concerned?

            Originally posted by aholbert32
            Lol!! You know I am too but let's worst case scenario this. Let's say the game absolutely sucks. It's takes a step back from 17 and I hate the game while playing it on access.

            I'll just cancel my preorder and move on. It's no loss to me. It's no loss to most people.


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            Absolutely. I think people forget sometimes that just because you pre-order something doesn't mean you have to purchase it. I enjoyed 17 for what it was so I'll probably be picking it up when I get a chance as well...
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            • N51_rob
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              • Jul 2003
              • 14805

              #246
              Re: Only 2 1/2 Weeks to EA Access and No Gameplay... Concerned?

              Originally posted by aholbert32
              What does "hiding" mean to most of you guys? I've seen game companies hide games. Hiding a game is putting a embargo on footage until after release. It's preventing websites from reviewing the game until after release. That isn't the case here.

              This isn't hiding the game. Everyone will get a chance to see videos of the game before the 22nd. There will be ea access screens and footage. There will be YouTube videos and Twitch streams. No one is buying the game sight unseen.

              Now it's possible that the game will suck but waiting until 2 weeks before release to release videos isn't hiding the game.


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              Maybe ridding isn't the word for it, and I will admit that. But I look at the EA Sports portfolio for the '18 season. I see NHL 18 has had an open/closed beta, NBA Live 18 will have a demo in 8 days. Not sure what FIFA is doing pre-release. But then I see Madden and it is August 3rd and I haven't seen any substantial non-off camera footage of gameplay.

              I get that NHL is probably doing server testing, load balancing with the new mode. Why wouldn't MUT want to do that with their MUT Team play? IDK... Again I will admit maybe hiding isn't the best term but from my perspective it makes me raise an eye brow.
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              • roadman
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                • Aug 2003
                • 26339

                #247
                Re: Only 2 1/2 Weeks to EA Access and No Gameplay... Concerned?

                Originally posted by N51_rob
                Maybe ridding isn't the word for it, and I will admit that. But I look at the EA Sports portfolio for the '18 season. I see NHL 18 has had an open/closed beta, NBA Live 18 will have a demo in 8 days. Not sure what FIFA is doing pre-release. But then I see Madden and it is August 3rd and I haven't seen any substantial non-off camera footage of gameplay.

                I get that NHL is probably doing server testing, load balancing with the new mode. Why wouldn't MUT want to do that with their MUT Team play? IDK... Again I will admit maybe hiding isn't the best term but from my perspective it makes me raise an eye brow.
                Rex did respond to this thread a few days ago, I don't know if you noticed that.

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                • PhillyPhanatic14
                  MVP
                  • Jun 2015
                  • 4824

                  #248
                  Re: Only 2 1/2 Weeks to EA Access and No Gameplay... Concerned?

                  Originally posted by N51_rob
                  Maybe ridding isn't the word for it, and I will admit that. But I look at the EA Sports portfolio for the '18 season. I see NHL 18 has had an open/closed beta, NBA Live 18 will have a demo in 8 days. Not sure what FIFA is doing pre-release. But then I see Madden and it is August 3rd and I haven't seen any substantial non-off camera footage of gameplay.

                  I get that NHL is probably doing server testing, load balancing with the new mode. Why wouldn't MUT want to do that with their MUT Team play? IDK... Again I will admit maybe hiding isn't the best term but from my perspective it makes me raise an eye brow.
                  Agreed. Fifa has tons of footage out including a 20 minute uninterrupted video of high quality gameplay from earlier this week during a FUT live stream. Madden used to have Youtube videos and livestreams and this year there's nothing. If they're not hiding they're at least getting their Splinter Cell on and being very very stealthy...

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                  • N51_rob
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                    • Jul 2003
                    • 14805

                    #249
                    Re: Only 2 1/2 Weeks to EA Access and No Gameplay... Concerned?

                    Originally posted by roadman
                    Rex did respond to this thread a few days ago, I don't know if you noticed that.
                    Nope, my twitter timeline is a nightmare these days.
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                    • cable guy
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                      • Jul 2005
                      • 3288

                      #250
                      Re: Only 2 1/2 Weeks to EA Access and No Gameplay... Concerned?

                      Originally posted by roadman
                      If they are hiding something, doesn't that push the release date back?

                      If they are hiding something, doesn't that mean will come out like NBA Live 14, be cancelled , lose a ton of customers, lose a ton of money and possibly the NFL license?

                      I concur I'm not happy with the current set up, but I can live with it.

                      Too bad Rex made a wasted trip down here.

                      Just a different strategy and take.
                      Agreed.

                      Hiding something is a totally different animal then not putting out early video for other various reasons mentioned.

                      Hiding means the game is broken. Imo. But I guess that's what we are all really disagreeing on to begin with.

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                      • roadman
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                        • Aug 2003
                        • 26339

                        #251
                        Re: Only 2 1/2 Weeks to EA Access and No Gameplay... Concerned?

                        Originally posted by N51_rob
                        Nope, my twitter timeline is a nightmare these days.
                        Post # 94:

                        Gameplay videos are currently scheduled to go out late next week, from community influencers. I promise they will be worth the wait.

                        Apologies to those of you who disagree with this strategy, but the team decided to try and different approach this year. We want first impressions to come from the community. Hence EA Play and why the gameplay videos were done this way.

                        I can assure you there is nothing wrong with the game that we are "hiding". The game came out great this year and we are excited to share it with you as soon as possible.

                        As always we appreciate your continued support and look forward to seeing you all on the field this August.

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                        • steeldee7
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                          • Jun 2015
                          • 116

                          #252
                          Re: Only 2 1/2 Weeks to EA Access and No Gameplay... Concerned?

                          Originally posted by roadman
                          Post # 94:

                          Gameplay videos are currently scheduled to go out late next week, from community influencers. I promise they will be worth the wait.

                          Apologies to those of you who disagree with this strategy, but the team decided to try and different approach this year. We want first impressions to come from the community. Hence EA Play and why the gameplay videos were done this way.

                          I can assure you there is nothing wrong with the game that we are "hiding". The game came out great this year and we are excited to share it with you as soon as possible.

                          As always we appreciate your continued support and look forward to seeing you all on the field this August.
                          Thanks for the response. Not that it was needed. But we will all play the game and love it or hate it no amount of early vids will change that. We still have to play it. I dont get all the drama.

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                          • cable guy
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                            • Jul 2005
                            • 3288

                            #253
                            Re: Only 2 1/2 Weeks to EA Access and No Gameplay... Concerned?

                            Originally posted by deu22ces
                            Lol, actually you have an 'incomplete' product still being developed at this point. EA's product is a wrap. I would say you are not hiding anything at this point since no one even 'formally' knows it exists. Are you working on a sports game?
                            Hopefully a new NHL game lol!

                            Sorry, completely off topic.



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                            • Valaskjalf
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                              • Oct 2015
                              • 44

                              #254
                              Re: Only 2 1/2 Weeks to EA Access and No Gameplay... Concerned?

                              Originally posted by steeldee7
                              Thanks for the response. Not that it was needed. But we will all play the game and love it or hate it no amount of early vids will change that. We still have to play it. I dont get all the drama.
                              The drama will really hit when those who do not like the game want their money back after they pre-ordered instead of waiting a week to see whether the feedback is good or not. That's one thing I will never understand....

                              I dont really care about the gameplay videos, like you said they won't change my view either way either. What I need to see before I spend a penny on the game is whether all the hoopla was worth it and whether I should just wait and get it on discount or wait for M19

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                              • cable guy
                                MVP
                                • Jul 2005
                                • 3288

                                #255
                                Re: Only 2 1/2 Weeks to EA Access and No Gameplay... Concerned?

                                Originally posted by PhillyPhanatic14
                                I sure hope so! I'm basically buying the game regardless at this point because I'm in a CFM league so I'm obviously hoping for the best, but it concerns me to not see anything until this late. Rex has been legit and open his whole time with Madden throughout the years and has given us no reason to doubt him. If the game didn't switch engines and Fifa didn't have so many flaws making the same transition last year I wouldn't be nervous without gameplay.
                                Great point. I actually worry about that. I think this was actually expressed by fellow OSers last season about Madden 18

                                The thing is, didn't FIFA 17 get rave vid previews?

                                I thought it did. Which in case, the video preview on YouTube really didn't tell the whole story.



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