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  • T4VERTS
    MVP
    • Jan 2011
    • 1153

    #106
    Re: Madden NFL 18 Patch Available Now, Patch Notes Included

    Originally posted by jdenyer
    The BIGGEST thing for me apart from QB AI (Will never be fixed - i've come to accept that) is the sim stats

    1. Has the XP kicking stats been fixed where most kickers were kicking XP's at around 70-80% for the year?

    2. Sacks and INT's being accurately recorded

    Also, speed regression needs to be fixed. After year 1 in my offline CFM nearly ALL the RB's across the league had 90 or less speed rating
    Try a new Offline CFM and sim ahead and see if the speed regression isn't fixed. It should be in there.
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    • aholbert32
      (aka Alberto)
      • Jul 2002
      • 33106

      #107
      Re: Madden NFL 18 Patch Available Now, Patch Notes Included

      Originally posted by CM Hooe
      Before we demonize Tiburon - it's too late for that based on the contents of this thread, but whatever - we should consider the completely reasonable possibility that these issues may take more time to fix than what was available to implement fixes in this patch. In addition, the new features delivered for MUT have probably been in development in some capacity since the game got to gold master, which was in late July if I recall correctly.

      Better communication with respect to those two issues would be ideal, because as you said the QB AI issue probably the most glaring problem with User v CPU gameplay right now. That said, there are plenty of more plausible explanations than "EA doesn't care about sim players" as to why we don't have a fix for that issue in this patch. That there were over a dozen fixes for Franchise mode clearly illustrates that this is not the case, and the core gameplay fixes also clearly benefit all players, sim and competitive alike.
      This would be reasonable if the patch included ANYTHING that was geared toward sim players. Any change in this patch that helps the game from a sim perspective is purely coincidental because it was intended to fix an issue that comp players were complaining about (ex. Zone coverage).

      The "over a dozen franchise fixes" arent significant at all. 4k scaling? For the small group of people who have a 4k tv and a device that plays in 4k. Franchise Twitter feed fixes? The rest are XP and basic bug fixes.

      This is a core issue. Its affects the ability of people to enjoy the game. No one is saying that the fix is easy but I guarantee you that if this was an issue that the Comp community was complaining about...it would be fixed. They would move resources around and focus on doing something to fix this issue. They would also be on Twitter talking about how this was going to be addressed.

      This isnt an EA problem...its a Madden team problem. The UFC team is open and transparent about things that can and cant be fixed through a patch. You go to that forum and you see nothing but love from the users because the devs there give it to them straight. I'd even argue that the NHL team is more transparent. They are open and honest about creating an arcade game with some sim aspects. Now sim NHL fans may not be happy with that but they cant say they were lied to.

      My point is dont try to sell me on a "sim mode" if you arent going to do the things to make the gameplay come close to that. Dont talk about how you are trying to be "sim" and then leave stuff like QB's getting sacked 10 times a game and rarely scrambling.

      Finally, you know me. I dont overeact to this stuff. I'm the type that will try to find a workaround and if I find one, I wont complain. But there is no work around for this. This can only be fixed by them and its the BIGGEST issue that this community has identified.

      So throw us a ****ing bone. Say "Its a coding issue that is proving to difficult to replicate. Send us vids and we will look into it." Or say "This is too difficult to fix in a patch and we will address it in future titles." ****, say "If you increase X tendency, this will help mitigate the issue"

      But say something. Ignoring this will just continue to push forward the narrative that Madden team only cares about comp players.

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      • SteelD34KC
        Banned
        • Aug 2016
        • 762

        #108
        Re: Madden NFL 18 Patch Available Now, Patch Notes Included

        Originally posted by aholbert32
        This would be reasonable if the patch included ANYTHING that was geared toward sim players. Any change in this patch that helps the game from a sim perspective is purely coincidental because it was intended to fix an issue that comp players were complaining about (ex. Zone coverage).

        The "over a dozen franchise fixes" arent significant at all. 4k scaling? For the small group of people who have a 4k tv and a device that plays in 4k. Franchise Twitter feed fixes? The rest are XP and basic bug fixes.

        This is a core issue. Its affects the ability of people to enjoy the game. No one is saying that the fix is easy but I guarantee you that if this was an issue that the Comp community was complaining about...it would be fixed. They would move resources around and focus on doing something to fix this issue. They would also be on Twitter talking about how this was going to be addressed.

        This isnt an EA problem...its a Madden team problem. The UFC team is open and transparent about things that can and cant be fixed through a patch. You go to that forum and you see nothing but love from the users because the devs there give it to them straight. I'd even argue that the NHL team is more transparent. They are open and honest about creating an arcade game with some sim aspects. Now sim NHL fans may not be happy with that but they cant say they were lied to.

        My point is dont try to sell me on a "sim mode" if you arent going to do the things to make the gameplay come close to that. Dont talk about how you are trying to be "sim" and then leave stuff like QB's getting sacked 10 times a game and rarely scrambling.

        Finally, you know me. I dont overeact to this stuff. I'm the type that will try to find a workaround and if I find one, I wont complain. But there is no work around for this. This can only be fixed by them and its the BIGGEST issue that this community has identified.

        So throw us a ****ing bone. Say "Its a coding issue that is proving to difficult to replicate. Send us vids and we will look into it." Or say "This is too difficult to fix in a patch and we will address it in future titles." ****, say "If you increase X tendency, this will help mitigate the issue"

        But say something. Ignoring this will just continue to push forward the narrative that Madden team only cares about comp players.
        Theyve been sent a ton of video evidence. There have been many, many people on youtube and twitch sending recordings in or saving them to there channels.

        The information is out there, and evidence is there. It just has nothing to do with MUT, so will get no love whatsoever.

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        • Brooke2011
          MVP
          • Aug 2013
          • 1904

          #109
          Re: Madden NFL 18 Patch Available Now, Patch Notes Included

          Shout out to Kane for the equipment upgrades.

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          • tyberious4now
            Tiger Paw
            • Nov 2004
            • 753

            #110
            Re: Madden NFL 18 Patch Available Now, Patch Notes Included

            Just thinking out loud maybe some of you guys can chime in ...Would it help EA to have a dedicated QB awareness slider and also a QB movement slider like the player movement slider in 2K bball......

            If possible maybe have defense pass rush tie into QB awareness to get rid of the ball sooner or take off and run as needed...

            Now this QB movement slider will differentiate between the real mobile QB'S and the ones that are not....

            Maybe just maybe

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            • Smallville102001
              All Star
              • Mar 2015
              • 6542

              #111
              Re: Madden NFL 18 Patch Available Now, Patch Notes Included

              I am not surprised that QB issue was not improved. It as been a big issue since madden 15. So it sounds like it is the kind of issue that is going to take more then a patch to fix and is not easy to fix. Also remember madden 15 where ever game was like 10-12 sacks and yet they said there was no issue with QB play lol. This years game ever game the CPU completes like 80% of there passes and I never had that issue in the past. It sure fells like the defensive side of the ball is just broken this year and I don't use that word often. Out side of madden 16 all madden has been since after ps2 days is disappointment after disappointment. Madden 16 is the only good madden after ps2 days. Madden 17 was messed up big time by patches. If you told me that madden would be like it is today like 10-15 years ago I would have laughed at you. A few months ago leading up to the release of madden and NBA live there where polls about are you going to get the game and NBA live had a higher % of people saying they are getting the game or leading towards getting the game then madden. The fact that NBA live had a higher % of people saying they where going to get the game then madden when madden is the only football game out and you have another option besides NBA live for basketball and the fact that NBA live had not been good for a while and even skipped a year or 2 a few years back is pretty telling of the stat of madden.
              Last edited by Smallville102001; 10-09-2017, 03:11 PM.

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              • brandon27
                MVP
                • Aug 2008
                • 1979

                #112
                Re: Madden NFL 18 Patch Available Now, Patch Notes Included

                Thank god they've apparently fixed the bubble screen issues!
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                • T4VERTS
                  MVP
                  • Jan 2011
                  • 1153

                  #113
                  Re: Madden NFL 18 Patch Available Now, Patch Notes Included

                  Originally posted by tyberious4now
                  Just thinking out loud maybe some of you guys can chime in ...Would it help EA to have a dedicated QB awareness slider and also a QB movement slider like the player movement slider in 2K bball......

                  If possible maybe have defense pass rush tie into QB awareness to get rid of the ball sooner or take off and run as needed...

                  Now this QB movement slider will differentiate between the real mobile QB'S and the ones that are not....

                  Maybe just maybe
                  See the issue is "awareness" may not do what you need it to in this case. Things have to be named certain things, but when it comes to how it's programmed it may require multiple tweaks. I do think it's a curious issue, and would love to talk to a developer about it in depth to find out what the problem really is on the backside.
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                  • GoodyBucs
                    Pro
                    • May 2003
                    • 689

                    #114
                    Re: Madden NFL 18 Patch Available Now, Patch Notes Included

                    I think we need to get on the sticks and play a little before getting so frustrated. Perhaps the game plays better post-patch....
                    Baseball junky....

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                    • SteelD34KC
                      Banned
                      • Aug 2016
                      • 762

                      #115
                      Re: Madden NFL 18 Patch Available Now, Patch Notes Included

                      Why does CFM not have chemistry?!?

                      Why cant they put that in CFM?

                      And I go back one more time. Why the hell didnt they fix the "Defensive Holding" bug.

                      Give me a break. Alls I read was MUT MUT MUT MUT.

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                      • howboutdat
                        MVP
                        • Nov 2012
                        • 1908

                        #116
                        Re: Madden NFL 18 Patch Available Now, Patch Notes Included

                        Originally posted by aholbert32


                        This isnt an EA problem...its a Madden team problem. The UFC team is open and transparent about things that can and cant be fixed through a patch. You go to that forum and you see nothing but love from the users because the devs there give it to them straight. I'd even argue that the NHL team is more transparent. They are open and honest about creating an arcade game with some sim aspects. Now sim NHL fans may not be happy with that but they cant say they were lied to.

                        My point is dont try to sell me on a "sim mode" if you arent going to do the things to make the gameplay come close to that. Dont talk about how you are trying to be "sim" and then leave stuff like QB's getting sacked 10 times a game and rarely scrambling.



                        But say something. Ignoring this will just continue to push forward the narrative that Madden team only cares about comp players.

                        I dont play NHL but i wish more people were like you guys , just being honest and communicating the truth with people.Its better to do that than claim one thing but show another imo. And in the end it goes alot longer way with people than the opposite. Its honestly not rocket science, or even game dev science, its common sense.
                        Yup, i said it !



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                        • T4VERTS
                          MVP
                          • Jan 2011
                          • 1153

                          #117
                          Re: Madden NFL 18 Patch Available Now, Patch Notes Included

                          Originally posted by SteelD34KC
                          Why does CFM not have chemistry?!?

                          Why cant they put that in CFM?

                          And I go back one more time. Why the hell didnt they fix the "Defensive Holding" bug.

                          Give me a break. Alls I read was MUT MUT MUT MUT.
                          I notice defensive holding, but it requires your playing someone who is press heavy. If they don't play much press you don't see it. I do see the occasional DPI when guys get tangled up but it's rare.
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                          • SteelD34KC
                            Banned
                            • Aug 2016
                            • 762

                            #118
                            Re: Madden NFL 18 Patch Available Now, Patch Notes Included

                            Originally posted by T4VERTS
                            I notice defensive holding, but it requires your playing someone who is press heavy. If they don't play much press you don't see it. I do see the occasional DPI when guys get tangled up but it's rare.
                            I can get DPI called consistently.

                            You will have to provide me evidence of Defensive holding. Seriously. Ive set it to 99 and played a full season. NOT ONCE. And I pressed my CB's EVERY SINGLE PLAY.

                            So yeah, sorry dont believe that you have ever seen Defensive Holding.

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                            • T4VERTS
                              MVP
                              • Jan 2011
                              • 1153

                              #119
                              Re: Madden NFL 18 Patch Available Now, Patch Notes Included

                              Originally posted by SteelD34KC
                              I can get DPI called consistently.

                              You will have to provide me evidence of Defensive holding. Seriously. Ive set it to 99 and played a full season. NOT ONCE. And I pressed my CB's EVERY SINGLE PLAY.

                              So yeah, sorry dont believe that you have ever seen Defensive Holding.
                              I can only tell you what I have seen. I'll try to record it and tweet it next time I see it. We are in off season right now so it may be a little bit though.
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                              • SteelD34KC
                                Banned
                                • Aug 2016
                                • 762

                                #120
                                Re: Madden NFL 18 Patch Available Now, Patch Notes Included

                                Originally posted by T4VERTS
                                I can only tell you what I have seen. I'll try to record it and tweet it next time I see it. We are in off season right now so it may be a little bit though.
                                All good, played literally almost two full seasons with it at 99. And not once has it been called.

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