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  • Devaster
    Pro
    • Dec 2008
    • 711

    #1

    Looking for Catching Mechanics Help with M18

    The last Madden gen I played was M15, which didn't have any of the aggressive/possession/RAC catches. Something that has really bothered me in M18 is I can get a receiver or TE to break break past the defender and be running wide open and I throw a lob touch pass to drop it right into the receiver's hands only to have my receiver jump. They stupidly stop and jump to catch the ball instead of continuing to run and run under it and let it drop right into their hands.

    This ridiculous jump animation has caused so many drops for me because it allows the defender to catch up and tackle my receiver in mid-air. Any way to properly complete this throw and catch?
    Last edited by Devaster; 01-17-2018, 12:19 AM.
  • F17
    Rookie
    • Aug 2017
    • 113

    #2
    Re: Looking for Catching Mechanics Help with M18

    This is annoying as hell isn't it!
    I've been thinking recently that is it something to do with no having the RAC trait. But I see it happening with some players even when they do. But also have aggressive catch traits. Regardless of me pressing square to trigger the rac catch. Endzone plays are particularly frustrating for this as well

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    • untakenid
      Rookie
      • Sep 2017
      • 31

      #3
      Re: Looking for Catching Mechanics Help with M18

      If I had a dollar for every time one of my receivers dove for a ball that they could've caught on the run...

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      • webbjay82
        Rookie
        • Oct 2017
        • 496

        #4
        Re: Looking for Catching Mechanics Help with M18

        Or have a receiver catch a screen pass and do that turning catching animation like they think a big hit is coming even though everyone is blocked and fall to the ground

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        • OhMrHanky
          MVP
          • Aug 2012
          • 1898

          #5
          Looking for Catching Mechanics Help with M18

          Hmm, yeah, idk about some of these posts. I understand the OP being unfamiliar with the new catch mechanics, but really, that’s it. If u lob deep and your qb has good deep acc and your wr beats his man AND has better speed than the CB, u should RAC catch to make sure your wr tries to catch in stride and keep going. I’ve actually come to attempt most deep balls with RAC catch for just that reason, I want them to catch in stride and keep going. That being said, sometimes the ball is just under thrown or something, and u can’t RAC catch, or maybe the game gives a bad catch animation and the DB catches u and tackles u or knocks the ball out with a hit or something. Sometimes, when u want to RAC catch deep, u might suddenly realize, ‘crap, it’s underthrown, DB might catch me, gotta go Aggressive Catch’ and press Y and fight the DB for it. Legit, the different catch types play diff roles in catching diff passes and make the game more dynamic.

          And, to the person talking about screens, I can tell u what I do 95% of the time. As the qb, wait for the RB to make his route to the outside for the screen. Throw it almost immediately on this cut. Don’t wait for him to get open. Don’t wait to see if a defender is there. Just throw it on the cut. Give it a ‘double tap’ of the screen button so that he gives it a little loft and touch on the pass. Immediately, press X for RAC catch. That’s it. That’s all u have to do on screens. Now, u have to see where your blocking is and make the play. But, this will at least throw a decent pass and catch for the screen so u don’t have a possession catch.

          Some people don’t dig the ‘new’ catching system, but I love it. It gives u that little extra choice of how to catch the ball at the moment of truth and can make a big difference what happens next. If you’ve been hesitant to use it because ‘I don’t want to press another button for the catch’ or something, lol, you are missing out on some extra ‘gameplay abilities’ that truly can change certain outcomes.

          Again, on those deep balls, I have Julio Jones, and while he’s a great spec catch guy, if he has a few steps on his DB because of his speed, and I can tell it’s a good throw, I instantly hit that X RAC button, so that he catches in stride and continues on for the TD. I don’t just spam Y for aggressive catch because he’s got a high spec catch, it all depends on the specific play as it develops.


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          Last edited by OhMrHanky; 01-18-2018, 09:56 AM.

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          • Devaster
            Pro
            • Dec 2008
            • 711

            #6
            Re: Looking for Catching Mechanics Help with M18

            I'll make sure to record footage of the next time it happens. It happens to me all the time though on post/corner routes when facing man coverage and my receiver beats the man. Instead of continuing to run and catch the ball they stop, jump, and attempt the catch. And it is usually a well thrown ball.

            edit: Do you have to tap or hold the button to designate the type of catch? Also do you have to switch to the receiver and tap or hold the button to make the designated type of catch? I find myself a lot of times just holding down the possession button because I commit so many drops.
            Last edited by Devaster; 01-18-2018, 01:45 PM.

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            • Holmesx10
              Rookie
              • May 2017
              • 87

              #7
              Re: Looking for Catching Mechanics Help with M18

              Originally posted by OhMrHanky
              Hmm, yeah, idk about some of these posts. I understand the OP being unfamiliar with the new catch mechanics, but really, that’s it. If u lob deep and your qb has good deep acc and your wr beats his man AND has better speed than the CB, u should RAC catch to make sure your wr tries to catch in stride and keep going. I’ve actually come to attempt most deep balls with RAC catch for just that reason, I want them to catch in stride and keep going. That being said, sometimes the ball is just under thrown or something, and u can’t RAC catch, or maybe the game gives a bad catch animation and the DB catches u and tackles u or knocks the ball out with a hit or something. Sometimes, when u want to RAC catch deep, u might suddenly realize, ‘crap, it’s underthrown, DB might catch me, gotta go Aggressive Catch’ and press Y and fight the DB for it. Legit, the different catch types play diff roles in catching diff passes and make the game more dynamic.

              And, to the person talking about screens, I can tell u what I do 95% of the time. As the qb, wait for the RB to make his route to the outside for the screen. Throw it almost immediately on this cut. Don’t wait for him to get open. Don’t wait to see if a defender is there. Just throw it on the cut. Give it a ‘double tap’ of the screen button so that he gives it a little loft and touch on the pass. Immediately, press X for RAC catch. That’s it. That’s all u have to do on screens. Now, u have to see where your blocking is and make the play. But, this will at least throw a decent pass and catch for the screen so u don’t have a possession catch.

              Some people don’t dig the ‘new’ catching system, but I love it. It gives u that little extra choice of how to catch the ball at the moment of truth and can make a big difference what happens next. If you’ve been hesitant to use it because ‘I don’t want to press another button for the catch’ or something, lol, you are missing out on some extra ‘gameplay abilities’ that truly can change certain outcomes.

              Again, on those deep balls, I have Julio Jones, and while he’s a great spec catch guy, if he has a few steps on his DB because of his speed, and I can tell it’s a good throw, I instantly hit that X RAC button, so that he catches in stride and continues on for the TD. I don’t just spam Y for aggressive catch because he’s got a high spec catch, it all depends on the specific play as it develops.


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              It’s not the runningbacks that fall down on screen passes only the wide receivers do. I usually try to hold RAC catch before they catch it but sometimes in laggy online games you don’t get a chance and then you lose 5 yards because your receiver decided to possession catch a perfectly blocked screen play.


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              • Devaster
                Pro
                • Dec 2008
                • 711

                #8
                Re: Looking for Catching Mechanics Help with M18

                Originally posted by Holmesx10
                It’s not the runningbacks that fall down on screen passes only the wide receivers do. I usually try to hold RAC catch before they catch it but sometimes in laggy online games you don’t get a chance and then you lose 5 yards because your receiver decided to possession catch a perfectly blocked screen play.


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                I've had my RB make possession catches on screen passes. It is dumb as hell. That is without pressing any buttons after I throw it. It doesn't make any sense that the RB would even attempt to make a possession catch on a screen. Better off dropping that in a real life situation and an in-game one.

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                • Hooe
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Aug 2002
                  • 21554

                  #9
                  Re: Looking for Catching Mechanics Help with M18

                  I've found that throwing flanker screens and bubble screens in this game is more about the timing of the pass. When I time it right - and it took a fair amount of time to get down, but once you get it down the muscle memory sticks with you - I can basically eliminate the silly possession catch auto-triggering. I now use a lot of WR screens in my offense, actually.

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                  • webbjay82
                    Rookie
                    • Oct 2017
                    • 496

                    #10
                    Re: Looking for Catching Mechanics Help with M18

                    Originally posted by Holmesx10
                    It’s not the runningbacks that fall down on screen passes only the wide receivers do. I usually try to hold RAC catch before they catch it but sometimes in laggy online games you don’t get a chance and then you lose 5 yards because your receiver decided to possession catch a perfectly blocked screen play.
                    Yeah its the receiver screens it happens on, usually if someone is being blocked close to them. I have seen it happen a couple of times with RB on dig routes in the middle of the field, which is annoying to see them catch it with room to move only to fall down a yard short of the first down.

                    I dont use the catch selection mechanic because it is usually really easy to abuse against the cpu.

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                    • ForUntoOblivionSoar∞
                      MVP
                      • Dec 2009
                      • 4682

                      #11
                      Re: Looking for Catching Mechanics Help with M18

                      On All Madden it cheats your speed down and tends to do the stupid streak jump animation so that the defender can knock the ball out.

                      So the specter of All Madden cheating will cause this as well.

                      If you lead the pass really far, though, it can help prevent this. You'll get more diving/shoestring catches though.
                      Originally posted by Therebelyell626
                      I am going to create a team called "the happy town fundament rapscallions" and hurt your already diminishing image
                      https://forums.operationsports.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2049813056

                      Last edited by your mom; 06-06-2006 at 6:06 PM.

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                      • OhMrHanky
                        MVP
                        • Aug 2012
                        • 1898

                        #12
                        Looking for Catching Mechanics Help with M18

                        Originally posted by Devaster
                        I'll make sure to record footage of the next time it happens. It happens to me all the time though on post/corner routes when facing man coverage and my receiver beats the man. Instead of continuing to run and catch the ball they stop, jump, and attempt the catch. And it is usually a well thrown ball.

                        edit: Do you have to tap or hold the button to designate the type of catch? Also do you have to switch to the receiver and tap or hold the button to make the designated type of catch? I find myself a lot of times just holding down the possession button because I commit so many drops.


                        U have to press and hold through the catch.
                        U don’t have to switch to wr, no. Which is actually nice that they designed this in this fashion. That way, u can let your wr do his thing and concentrate on how u want him to catch it

                        Now, I will say this, and it’s tricky, cause I don’t know exactly what they’ve got programmed in there and they’ve never given an extensive explanation of all things possible with their system of catching and intercepting for that matter. I mention intercepting, because, I can tell u, sometimes I feel like tapping Y (aggressive catch or interception) at just the right point, right at the catch, can sometimes work differently than just pressing and holding Y the whole time the ball is in the air.

                        And, ever since ball hawk was introduced back to madden 13, I believe, there is some method to ‘when’ I start pressing buttons and/or if u switch to wr or dB while throw is in the air, u can slightly adjust your position, then press a catch button to alter how u catch it. Sort of like shielding the defender from the ball, if u will. And, I’ve also always noticed there are some slight adjustments that can be made WHILE holding down a pass catch or INT/swat button. By this, I mean that u press and hold the button, but u can sort of ‘feel’ manipulating your player up/down/left/right with the left thumb stick. It’s extremely subtle, but I feel like there can be a difference between catching and not catching a ball depending on all these things.

                        If u feel like your wr is open enough to make the catch and not run out of bounds stupidly (this is the bigger problem I personally used to see all the time and still see occasionally on passes to the flat), u can simply not press anything, let him catch it and keep going. I, personally, only tend to see drops when a D player hits me.

                        And, on those deep throws, yeah, press and HOLD X (RAC catch) if you’ve got a step or 2 on your man and want to catch and keep going.


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