Questions about Tight End position in CFM

[Dcourtne]

Playing in a CFM over multiple seasons. This past season I went nuts with my TE and realized a few things:

1. Why is there no annual Best TE award? Doesn’t appear on the Best WR list. Seems like a big oversight to me given how important TEs are. (If I’m missing where this award is given - let me know)

2. Why , in game, can you sub a TE at WR but you can’t sub a WR at TE. I know that shouldn’t happen in real football but.....

3. Why does any WR who has avg run and impact block ratings get a huge bump if you change position to TE? No consideration given to WR height and weight. This is dumb and has made actual TEs in our league irrelevant - everyone just finds a WR with block skills and a little speed. We have former WRs 5’10 and 185 playing TE and excelling.

[cusefan74]

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For one there is no tight end award in the NFL.

Two, Madden is supposed to be a sim game, so putting a WR in for a TE is not real at all. Although TE's now days get used as WR's all the time.

Three...this proves that Madden is not a true sim when you can do things like that.

[Dcourtne]

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I get that there is no TE award in real NFL but since Madden awards XP to the other awards - this holds TEs back in development. IMO

[Devaster]

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I get that there is no TE award in real NFL but since Madden awards XP to the other awards - this holds TEs back in development. IMO

I agree with this. FBs can get the best RB award. I think only Punters and TEs cannot win any "best position" awards. Which is a bit silly. At least there is now a "Best Linebacker" award. Back in M15 that position got screwed as well. Especially if you played in a 3-4 Defense. Your pass rushers just didn't develop as well if you had a stud that could win the award.

There aren't any "Best Position" awards to my knowledge in the NFL either. But those awards could definitely be treated like All-Pro awards. I'd rather see 1st and 2nd All-Pro teams. And even All-Decade Team awards. That would be much more realistic and awesome to see. Would love to see if any of my players made an All-Decade team.

[Kentaurus]

Re: Questions about Tight End position in CFM

Playing in a CFM over multiple seasons. This past season I went nuts with my TE and realized a few things:

3. Why does any WR who has avg run and impact block ratings get a huge bump if you change position to TE? No consideration given to WR height and weight. This is dumb and has made actual TEs in our league irrelevant - everyone just finds a WR with block skills and a little speed. We have former WRs 5’10 and 185 playing TE and excelling.

You really need to find a better league that doesn't allow those kind of unrealistic position changes.

[ForUntoOblivionSoar∞]

Re: Questions about Tight End position in CFM

Playing in a CFM over multiple seasons. This past season I went nuts with my TE and realized a few things:

1. Why is there no annual Best TE award? Doesn’t appear on the Best WR list. Seems like a big oversight to me given how important TEs are. (If I’m missing where this award is given - let me know)

2. Why , in game, can you sub a TE at WR but you can’t sub a WR at TE. I know that shouldn’t happen in real football but.....

3. Why does any WR who has avg run and impact block ratings get a huge bump if you change position to TE? No consideration given to WR height and weight. This is dumb and has made actual TEs in our league irrelevant - everyone just finds a WR with block skills and a little speed. We have former WRs 5’10 and 185 playing TE and excelling.

Sounds like you have an arcade league full of arcade Madden fans who aren't football fans.


This kind of thing is why you should only join SIM leagues. A sim league will have a rule against this kind of anti-realistic lunacy.

[Ueauvan]

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best lber gets no exps, i had one who got dpoy and best lber and only got credit for dpoy

why do oline get 32000 exps for the pro bowl at ss dev when other positions get a lot less

[Holmesx10]

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best lber gets no exps, i had one who got dpoy and best lber and only got credit for dpoy

why do oline get 32000 exps for the pro bowl at ss dev when other positions get a lot less

For some reason my entire backup offensive line always goes to the pro bowl even if my starters don’t. In fact my current online fantasy draft I drafted really well and I had all 10 lineman in the pro bowl as I also lead the league in rushing. Now I have 4/5 of my backups as quick development. It’s rather ridiculous even if it creates great trade bait for me in the future because all my backups were younger than 24.


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[Dcourtne]

Re: Questions about Tight End position in CFM

I “appreciate” the thoughts on the quality on the league I’m in. I’m in a league with friends and we can “play” the video game the way it was made. If the game allows it - we allow it. We prefer to spend our time playing the game rather than officiating it. I respect that others play it differently and enjoy it.

My point / question was really just focused on why the game approaches the TE position as it does and why WRs can get such a ovr rating bump by moving to TE.

Only other position I’ve seen that with is moving a DE to DT - but that is at least a bit easier to envision.

[ForUntoOblivionSoar∞]

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I “appreciate” the thoughts on the quality on the league I’m in. I’m in a league with friends and we can “play” the video game the way it was made. If the game allows it - we allow it. We prefer to spend our time playing the game rather than officiating it. I respect that others play it differently and enjoy it.

My point / question was really just focused on why the game approaches the TE position as it does and why WRs can get such a ovr rating bump by moving to TE.

Only other position I’ve seen that with is moving a DE to DT - but that is at least a bit easier to envision.

Well, while I appreciate your sentiment, the sad truth is that Madden is not a perfect game, and "house rules" can help mitigate some of those flaws.


But as for why the substitution limitations, that's just EA Tiburon trying to be realistic (and thank you to them for every time they do that).

[Devaster]

Re: Questions about Tight End position in CFM

For some reason my entire backup offensive line always goes to the pro bowl even if my starters don’t. In fact my current online fantasy draft I drafted really well and I had all 10 lineman in the pro bowl as I also lead the league in rushing. Now I have 4/5 of my backups as quick development. It’s rather ridiculous even if it creates great trade bait for me in the future because all my backups were younger than 24.


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Yeah this is rather annoying. I find a bunch of my backup OLinemen going to the PB if I have a good season rushing/passing. I don't take a lot of sacks. I've had starters on my OL miss a few games and miss the PB in those seasons, but my backups will all go.

I don't like it either. I'd rather see OLinemen around the league getting PB nods and not my backups. I just end up trading my backups to OL-needy teams. But OL is also far too easy to develop.

[JayCutlersCig]

Re: Questions about Tight End position in CFM

They need a slight overhaul of awards. Walter Payton Award, All-Pros (unless they have that and I’m just blind), things like that.


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[Ueauvan]

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in real life the pro bowl needs to recognize a lot of teams play the 3-4, mlbers get the short end when voting is opened. classic nfc example willis/bowman were great pairing in 3-4 then you add Luke and only 2 get selected vs 4 olb and lots of dline

[reyes the roof]

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Yeah this is rather annoying. I find a bunch of my backup OLinemen going to the PB if I have a good season rushing/passing. I don't take a lot of sacks. I've had starters on my OL miss a few games and miss the PB in those seasons, but my backups will all go.

I don't like it either. I'd rather see OLinemen around the league getting PB nods and not my backups. I just end up trading my backups to OL-needy teams. But OL is also far too easy to develop.

Yeah I'm 12 games in to my season and my back up LT, who has played 13 snaps all season is in the top ten for the O-lineman of the year award. He made the pro bowl as a back up last year and somehow got 64,000 Xp. I've never seen that much XP given out