SGO Video: Does Height Matter? (Hint: It doesn't)

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  • raypace1
    Banned
    • Aug 2017
    • 256

    #76
    Re: SGO Video: Does Height Matter? (Hint: It doesn't)

    Originally posted by burnwood
    20 years into the future, the NFL won't look like anything we can predict now in my opinion.


    20 years from now the NFL won't exist because the mighty American patriots have burned all their nfl and Nike merchandise...[emoji23][emoji28][emoji23]


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    • RicoLaguna
      Rookie
      • Jul 2003
      • 349

      #77
      Re: SGO Video: Does Height Matter? (Hint: It doesn't)

      This is why BACKBREAKER was such a great leap in technology....that game, as bad as it was a football game, was a fantastic physics engine that primarily favored physics and momentum, height and weight, and player position and space to rely on outcomes over ratings.

      The ratings just influenced outcome but it didn't dictate it as in Madden. Animations morph to ratings in Madden which is the reason we see all this warping and pre tackling stuff before it actually happens. Balls magically going from a recievers hands to a defenders hands, Running backs going down before the defender actually makes the follow thru impact...ect ect ect…….its embarrassing that they call their engine physics at all

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      • stinkubus
        MVP
        • Dec 2011
        • 1463

        #78
        Re: SGO Video: Does Height Matter? (Hint: It doesn't)

        MUT currently has some Halloween-themed solo challenges available. As a part of this promotion we have access to players who have "normal" ratings for 70-80 OVRs, but they are 3'10" tall.

        I would like to report that I had no issues getting Randy Moss to out jump them for the ball. I deliberately threw into coverage several times and never failed to come down with the ball using aggressive catches.

        I was throwing lobs on fade routes right at deep half zone defenders that would've easily been deflections or INTs against any "normal" defender.

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        • burnwood
          MVP
          • May 2003
          • 2270

          #79
          Re: SGO Video: Does Height Matter? (Hint: It doesn't)

          Originally posted by stinkubus
          MUT currently has some Halloween-themed solo challenges available. As a part of this promotion we have access to players who have "normal" ratings for 70-80 OVRs, but they are 3'10" tall.

          I would like to report that I had no issues getting Randy Moss to out jump them for the ball. I deliberately threw into coverage several times and never failed to come down with the ball using aggressive catches.

          I was throwing lobs on fade routes right at deep half zone defenders that would've easily been deflections or INTs against any "normal" defender.
          Yeah these tests weren't in MUT mode.

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          • stinkubus
            MVP
            • Dec 2011
            • 1463

            #80
            Re: SGO Video: Does Height Matter? (Hint: It doesn't)

            Originally posted by burnwood
            Yeah these tests weren't in MUT mode.
            It was a regular single player game: All Madden difficulty, competitive mode. MUT isn't an entirely different game.

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            • burnwood
              MVP
              • May 2003
              • 2270

              #81
              Re: SGO Video: Does Height Matter? (Hint: It doesn't)

              Originally posted by stinkubus
              It was a regular single player game: All Madden difficulty, competitive mode. MUT isn't an entirely different game.
              So, to understand the context of the issue you'll need to watch the entire video. It shows the results of incrementally increasing and decreasing certain attributes. Your Randy Moss example actually reinforces the results that are demonstrated in the YouTube video.

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              • bkrich83
                Has Been
                • Jul 2002
                • 71582

                #82
                Re: SGO Video: Does Height Matter? (Hint: It doesn't)

                There's a lot of hypebole in this thread. Same cast of characters.
                Tracking my NCAA Coach Career

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                • burnwood
                  MVP
                  • May 2003
                  • 2270

                  #83
                  Re: SGO Video: Does Height Matter? (Hint: It doesn't)

                  Originally posted by bkrich83
                  There's a lot of hypebole in this thread. Same cast of characters.
                  Isn't Madden (the game) based on hyperbole? All the player interactions and such. So overdone without any nuance.

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                  • SportzMan69
                    Banned
                    • Sep 2018
                    • 36

                    #84
                    Re: SGO Video: Does Height Matter? (Hint: It doesn't)

                    Originally posted by bkrich83
                    There's a lot of hypebole in this thread. Same cast of characters.
                    And damage control in this thread, Same cast of characters.

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                    • TrustTheProcess
                      Rookie
                      • Aug 2017
                      • 263

                      #85
                      Re: SGO Video: Does Height Matter? (Hint: It doesn't)

                      Originally posted by SportzMan69
                      And damage control in this thread, Same cast of characters.
                      Did this guy really get banned for this statement?

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                      • kehlis
                        Moderator
                        • Jul 2008
                        • 27738

                        #86
                        Re: SGO Video: Does Height Matter? (Hint: It doesn't)

                        Originally posted by TrustTheProcess
                        Did this guy really get banned for this statement?
                        No.

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                        • bkrich83
                          Has Been
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 71582

                          #87
                          SGO Video: Does Height Matter? (Hint: It doesn't)

                          Never mind. Too easy.
                          Last edited by bkrich83; 10-21-2018, 04:10 PM.
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                          • bkrich83
                            Has Been
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 71582

                            #88
                            Re: SGO Video: Does Height Matter? (Hint: It doesn't)

                            Originally posted by burnwood
                            Isn't Madden (the game) based on hyperbole? All the player interactions and such. So overdone without any nuance.


                            There are many things overdone. It’s a video game that relies on mass appeal. There’s always going to be some of that. Same with either NBA game or MLB The Show or either major soccer release.


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                            • burnwood
                              MVP
                              • May 2003
                              • 2270

                              #89
                              Re: SGO Video: Does Height Matter? (Hint: It doesn't)

                              Originally posted by bkrich83
                              There are many things overdone. It’s a video game that relies on mass appeal. There’s always going to be some of that. Same with either NBA game or MLB The Show or either major soccer release.


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                              Right... but we're only discussing the Catch in Traffic rating based on some video capture and how it relates to the perceived height advantage.

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                              • btvs
                                Rookie
                                • Aug 2011
                                • 281

                                #90
                                Re: SGO Video: Does Height Matter? (Hint: It doesn't)

                                I always felt height did matter. I put SS Obi Melifonwu at CB to match up with fast tall WRs and Obi makes a lot of plays a smaller CB would not. Obi and Kevin King are a deadly CB duo in franchise mode due to size and speed.

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