SGO Video: Does Height Matter? (Hint: It doesn't)

[burnwood]

Re: SGO Video: Does Height Matter? (Hint: It doesn't)

I always felt height did matter. I put SS Obi Melifonwu at CB to match up with fast tall WRs and Obi makes a lot of plays a smaller CB would not. Obi and Kevin King are a deadly CB duo in franchise mode due to size and speed.

What were the CIT ratings of these receivers?

[timhere1970]

Re: SGO Video: Does Height Matter? (Hint: It doesn't)

You also have to account for traits when testing this. Aggressive catch trait for receivers trigger animations as well as the plays ball in air trait for the defensive player. Then there is coaching adjustments to consider.

[burnwood]

Re: SGO Video: Does Height Matter? (Hint: It doesn't)

You also have to account for traits when testing this. Aggressive catch trait for receivers trigger animations as well as the plays ball in air trait for the defensive player. Then there is coaching adjustments to consider.

I believe the traits were shown in the video. I'd have to re-watch. Coaching shouldn't matter in my opinion. If you're 7 ft tall, in the NFL, and a 99 OVR, you should out-catch a midget DB.

[canes21]

Re: SGO Video: Does Height Matter? (Hint: It doesn't)

I'm getting the vibe that some here want the height to dictate whether or not the WR comes down with the catch more so than then ratings. Height should only help the WR's chances to get a hand on the ball. That is the case in the video and my video for the most part. Then the ratings related to catching dictate whether or not he comes down with it to complete the catch.


How else should it be?

[timhere1970]

Re: SGO Video: Does Height Matter? (Hint: It doesn't)

I believe the traits were shown in the video. I'd have to re-watch. Coaching shouldn't matter in my opinion. If you're 7 ft tall, in the NFL, and a 99 OVR, you should out-catch a midget DB.

You should be able to get to the ball over a shorter db if your hight and jump rate dictates. Coming down with the completion is based on other abilities.

[burnwood]

Re: SGO Video: Does Height Matter? (Hint: It doesn't)

I'm getting the vibe that some here want the height to dictate whether or not the WR comes down with the catch more so than then ratings. Height should only help the WR's chances to get a hand on the ball. That is the case in the video and my video for the most part. Then the ratings related to catching dictate whether or not he comes down with it to complete the catch.


How else should it be?

Wait, wait wait. Check out the video capture. There really is no need to theorize when we have some sort of visual evidence.

There is a clear height advantage and the ball magically gets swatted out by a hand that is about 4 feet away.

[burnwood]

Re: SGO Video: Does Height Matter? (Hint: It doesn't)

You should be able to get to the ball over a shorter db if your hight and jump rate dictates. Coming down with the completion is based on other abilities.

Have you seen this 99 OVR wide receiver? What other abilities do you need at the position to obtain such a high rating? Besides, there is no need to jump if your literal advantage is about 7 feet higher (accounting for arm extension).

[timhere1970]

Re: SGO Video: Does Height Matter? (Hint: It doesn't)

Have you seen this 99 OVR wide receiver? What other abilities do you need at the position to obtain such a high rating? Besides, there is no need to jump if your literal advantage is about 7 feet higher (accounting for arm extension).

There is a problem, i was never intending to say there was not.

[underdog13]

Re: SGO Video: Does Height Matter? (Hint: It doesn't)

Have you seen this 99 OVR wide receiver? What other abilities do you need at the position to obtain such a high rating? Besides, there is no need to jump if your literal advantage is about 7 feet higher (accounting for arm extension).

I'm not sure what your point is. When the WR is 99 ovr, he owns the DB.

[RicoLaguna]

Re: SGO Video: Does Height Matter? (Hint: It doesn't)

This is why BACKBREAKER was such a great leap in technology....that game, as bad as it was a football game, was a fantastic physics engine that primarily favored physics and momentum, height and weight, and player position and space to rely on outcomes over ratings.

The ratings just influenced outcome but it didn't dictate it as in Madden. Animations morph to ratings in Madden which is the reason we see all this warping and pre tackling stuff before it actually happens. Balls magically going from a recievers hands to a defenders hands, Running backs going down before the defender actually makes the follow thru impact...ect ect ect…….its embarrassing that they call their engine physics at all

The problem with Madden 19 as is the case with quite a few of the recent Madden versions, the warping and smoke and mirror animations haven been getting sloppier and sloppier. I know its a video game and to a certain extent all games will dice roll ratings to a degree to then trigger certain animations. But the difference is, madden is just not as tight as other games at doing it. Which results in a very incohesive feeling physics defying game.

You play a game like PES Evolution Soccer or NBA 2K and the gameplay is much tighter and in tune with animations, physics and ratings cohesively existing to create a realistic experience for the gamer. Madden hasn't yielded a tight gameplay experience since madden 10, Madden 11 and 12

[bigd51]

Re: SGO Video: Does Height Matter? (Hint: It doesn't)

I'm getting the vibe that some here want the height to dictate whether or not the WR comes down with the catch more so than then ratings. Height should only help the WR's chances to get a hand on the ball. That is the case in the video and my video for the most part. Then the ratings related to catching dictate whether or not he comes down with it to complete the catch.


How else should it be?

As a Panther fan since '95, I've been blessed and cursed w/ examples to fit both of your opinions.

Steve Smith Sr. was like the Slim Shady of the NFL. Angry, 5'9 guy w/ a chip on his shoulder that could easily beat anyone in a solo battle. Like a pint of super-charged TO. Even beat his share of double/triple teams throughout his career, as well. Even beat up on members of his own team!

Then, on the other side of the spectrum -- you have Kelvin Benjamin.

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[burnwood]

Re: SGO Video: Does Height Matter? (Hint: It doesn't)

I'm not sure what your point is. When the WR is 99 ovr, he owns the DB.

Except in this demonstration.

[underdog13]

Re: SGO Video: Does Height Matter? (Hint: It doesn't)

Except in this demonstration.

Honestly I can come to no other conclusion than you didn't watch the video.


At 12:45 that is when the WR becomes 99 ovr. Then he proceeds to catch almost all of them.

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[burnwood]

Re: SGO Video: Does Height Matter? (Hint: It doesn't)

Honestly I can come to no other conclusion than you didn't watch the video.


At 12:45 that is when the WR becomes 99 ovr. Then he proceeds to catch almost all of them.

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Pause. We're saying the same thing.

[underdog13]

Re: SGO Video: Does Height Matter? (Hint: It doesn't)

Pause. We're saying the same thing.

Ah ****. My bad

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