Madden NFL 20 Developer Stream (Archived) - Gameplay & Franchise Beta Updates

[JoshC1977]

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I swear, in beta, each time someone complained about the pass rush I was creating a counter reply. I was like, "How dare you come in here with that noise." lol

LOL, I did the same thing...something along the lines of "GIT GUD - learn how to step up in the pocket".

[TheOncomingStorm]

Re: Madden NFL 20 Developer Stream Starting Now - Discussing Gameplay & Franchise Bet

Lots of great notes in regards to gameplay. Not much reassurance for Franchise. They did nothing (unless I missed something) to make it feel like the Scenario Engine will be more fleshed out at launch than in the beta.

Scenarios mentioned when the engine was announced back in April:

Player holding out
Player demanding trade
Player reacting to being put on trade block
Locker room reaction to cutting veteran
Players reacting to decreased use in gameplay
Players threatening to retire if Franchise Tagged
Player calls players-only meeting
Boost or lessen practice intensity
Player breakout scenarios

Also mentioned that players on a team would react individually (not the entire team reacting as one) to unfolding scenarios, with more volatile players creating crises (hard to believe NFL signs off on that)

How many of these promised scenarios do you all think will actually be in the game at launch?

Also, how many people are concerned the "live service" approach to Franchise this year means there will be less time for the team to implement major improvements for next year's edition?

[adelfish]

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So the Star/Superstar/X-Factor abilities are all under 'fog of war' now, to opponents, correct? Or did I misinterpret that?

And regarding drafting them, do we know at what point a drafted player gains their ability?

[jfsolo]

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So I'll start off with the one negative in that it doesn't look like the Simmed rushing stats for QBs will be fixed for launch. Some of us(myself included) often think that some things should be easy fixes, but obviously this isn't.

It was smart of them to limit the SS/XF abilities in the Pro Bowl opening, take the way that people freaked out in the Beta and magnify it by a thousand and it would have been tough to deal with the next level complaining during the launch. Such a big win to not have the pass rush nerfed.

5th year options in a Title Update is a stunningly unexpected get. Swami's discussion about how one players contract will influence the contract expectations of other similarly rated players was nice.

Swami also talked about how rookies or players who are young with a low OVR will quickly progress to overtake the veteran who might be rated higher than them at launch. We'll see how that was tuned. He also said it's tough to get people to the SS/XF level so a league shouldn't be saturated with those players, this is another thing we'll have to see how the tuning plays out.

Good to here about more scenarios being in at launch, how many more we get during the year will be a big factor in the evaluation of Franchise mode this cycle, IMO.

For me probably most of the EA Access time will be spent getting the muscle memory down for the new control scheme. SS/XF being on RT and play art being on LT is going to take a minute to get use to. The same is true for dline and linebacker adjustments now being on the d-pad.

[Therebelyell626]

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Player holding out
Player demanding trade
Player reacting to being put on trade block
Locker room reaction to cutting veteran
Players reacting to decreased use in gameplay
Players threatening to retire if Franchise Tagged
Player calls players-only meeting
Boost or lessen practice intensity
Player breakout scenarios

For a few of these two work I would have to imagine players would have to have personality traits assigned similar to 2k. Has anyone seen anything anywhere about players having personality traits?

[Cowboy008]

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Well it looks like I may end up doing a 32 team franchise since swami just confirmed that cpu teams don’t get scenarios.

[PhillyPhanatic14]

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For a few of these two work I would have to imagine players would have to have personality traits assigned similar to 2k. Has anyone seen anything anywhere about players having personality traits?

We've had personality ratings for a few years now... not sure when they were added but they were definitely in Madden 19.

[howboutdat]

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Bravo to the madden team for not caving ( so far) and not nerfing and over tuning things from the beta. That was great to hear. Now lets hope they stick to that after launch as well and not screw this up.

The new block and release for the TE sounds like a really nice addition as well .

The 5th year option scenerio thing sounds cool. Im hoping ( and figuring) since this is coming post launch that any online leagues that starts before thats out , will get it when the update comes without having to restart .

Not to sure why they felt the need to talk almost 10 minutes about a button change though.

Overall im just glad to hear they didnt mess with the gameplay for the most part. They seemed to just focus on fiing bugs and glitches. Exactly what they should have spent their time on . Nice work on the gameplay side.

[Therebelyell626]

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We've had personality ratings for a few years now... not sure when they were added but they were definitely in Madden 19.

Woah didn't even know that. Goes to show you how much they in matter in Madden since I didn't even know they were in the game lol

[PhillyPhanatic14]

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Woah didn't even know that. Goes to show you how much they in matter in Madden since I didn't even know they were in the game lol

Haha yeah seriously. According to MUTHead, here is what it did (not much):

Helps determine how marketable the player is. The more marketable the player, the better chance he’ll have of becoming a top-10 selling jersey in the NFL, which of course means more money for the owner.

[patsfan1993]

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Well it looks like I may end up doing a 32 team franchise since swami just confirmed that cpu teams don’t get scenarios.

Honestly expected, but a major letdown. Now if it wasn't such a pain to do 32 team control.

[Yesboom]

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We've had personality ratings for a few years now... not sure when they were added but they were definitely in Madden 19.

This rating is more a "Marketable" rating than a personality rating. If I remember correctly it was bugged and a lot of players had 99 so your 3rd string RB would sell more jersey than your star QB. (Don't quote me on that one but I believe every rookies came in with a 99 rating making this rating pretty much useles)

[squaremarker]

Re: Madden NFL 20 Developer Stream Starting Now - Discussing Gameplay & Franchise Bet

Gentlemen, let's get very real for a second. There is a reason they are not showing us unedited gameplay. Let that sink in before you decide to purchase this title.

[jfsolo]

Re: Madden NFL 20 Developer Stream Starting Now - Discussing Gameplay & Franchise Bet

Bravo to the madden team for not caving ( so far) and not nerfing and over tuning things from the beta. That was great to hear. Now lets hope they stick to that after launch as well and not screw this up.

The new block and release for the TE sounds like a really nice addition as well .

The 5th year option scenerio thing sounds cool. Im hoping ( and figuring) since this is coming post launch that any online leagues that starts before thats out , will get it when the update comes without having to restart .

Not to sure why they felt the need to talk almost 10 minutes about a button change though.

Overall im just glad to hear they didnt mess with the gameplay for the most part. They seemed to just focus on fiing bugs and glitches. Exactly what they should have spent their time on . Nice work on the gameplay side.

One could argue that the control scheme changes will be the biggest disruption of the status quo for most of the Madden player base this year. Hardcore players will complain for a minute and then adjust, but casual players will be much more affected by the changes, IMO.

[JoshC1977]

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Gentlemen, let's get very real for a second. There is a reason they are not showing us unedited gameplay. Let that sink in before you decide to purchase this title.

Yeah, because gameplay can't be judged based on videos....you have to get the game in-hand.