M20 Biggest Draft Studs and Freaks

[canes21]

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Sure could be, but if all B+s are high 70s then why deviate from standard practice of grading systems all across the country and not just have these high 70s be b- or c+. If it’s not a bug then I think a lot of people in CFMs are going to be rudely awakened during their first draft and have a WTF moment when they see their B attribute be a 74, when it should have been displayed as a C.

Is there a true standard grading system across the nation? When I was in school sometimes an A ranged from 90-100, sometimes it was 93-100, sometimes 95-100, sometimes 86-100. All other letters also varied. Even in college the letter grades varied by class. Physics was a lot more forgiving than finance, for example.

Going back to the topic, from what I've read around, the grades are relative to the draft class, but I haven't even started a CFM or done any testing myself, so I couldn't tell you if it were true or not. It may be a bug you have discovered, but I am imaging the grades are probably tuned to match the new generated classes and they may even be slightly relative on top of that.

[jfsolo]

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There was a lengthy exchange about it on Twitter and this was the ultimate resolution.

Andre Weingarten
@Moonlightswami
Jul 30
Replying to
@Falker_22
and
@TheSteve3811
after talking with some others on the team it is working as designed. Thanks for the feedback on this guys.

The ratings themselves are fine, IMO, but I definitely would prefer that they kept the draft class grades relative to the NFL and not the other draftees. "B+" with a 70's value will always be completely incongruous to me.

[Peji911]

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New to the latest versions of Madden. I’m wondering if these rookies (stats, names, etc) transfer to everyone’s game or if everyone’s rookies are different.

In other words, if you draft a Mike Smith WR 88 overall, will that same player appear in my save as well?

[canes21]

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New to the latest versions of Madden. I’m wondering if these rookies (stats, names, etc) transfer to everyone’s game or if everyone’s rookies are different.

In other words, if you draft a Mike Smith WR 88 overall, will that same player appear in my save as well?

The way it works, or at least has worked for the last however many years now, is that the team handcrafts players at each position, but their numbers, names, schools, and some of their appearance can all be different each time. Their attributes and whatnot are not random, but most everything else. Many people thought everything was completely random, but that was not the case. I believe Madden 20 is no different. That WR you're seeing in your year 1 draft may be in my year 3 draft named Mike Michael's, but he'll have the same ratings.

[mdurd2817]

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M20 Biggest Draft Studs and Freaks?

[faucette56]

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I would like to see if anyone comes across a Randy Moss clone over 6’4 with 95+ speed etc,I think the archetype system prevents this type of player from existing,would be awesome though


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[ajra21]

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I would like to see if anyone comes across a Randy Moss clone over 6’4 with 95+ speed etc,I think the archetype system prevents this type of player from existing,would be awesome though


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In M17, I had a guy who made Megatron look like a scrub. 6'5, 235lb with 96 SPD and 95 ACC. I got everything up to 99. He was so insanely good, he was unstoppable on every play. I had to stop throwing to him to make the games semi-realistic.

[UnderRatedCoast]

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After my first season with the Cards I drafted an OLB who was 73 OVR with the 27th pick...he ended up with x factor dev trait so I traded Chandler Jones to save $12mm in cap space and the new guy jumped up to 81 OVR after his first year. Also traded Patrick Peterson after he wouldn't sign his contract extension and got a CB from the Dolphins that they took with their first pick. He was 77 OVR out of the gate and after year 1 he was up to 84 with superstat Dev trait. The QB who was taken first overall in that draft was 74 OVR and ended up with x factor dev trait and jumped up to 84 after one year. He has like 4 abilities, it's ridiculous.

In two drafts now the best player I've seen out of the box was a LT with a 78 OVR, and he was picked in the 2nd round after I had traded up to get two first round picks and drafted a safety who was 69 OVR.

[Zack317]

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That just sounds like they not only lowered rookie ratings, but adjusted the letter grades in combination with it. It doesn't seem like a bug. If rookies are coming in with lower overalls, it would make no sense for a B+ to still be an 88.

This is what I understood to have happened. Both were lowered.

Not a bug

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[bongo88]

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The way it works, or at least has worked for the last however many years now, is that the team handcrafts players at each position, but their numbers, names, schools, and some of their appearance can all be different each time. Their attributes and whatnot are not random, but most everything else. Many people thought everything was completely random, but that was not the case. I believe Madden 20 is no different. That WR you're seeing in your year 1 draft may be in my year 3 draft named Mike Michael's, but he'll have the same ratings.

Howdy canes21,
I havent bought a new madden for years (pc--fiddle with madden 08 off an on) and was looking to pick up madden 20 due to gameplay improvements.

Anyways, is this for offline franchise mode (or whatever its called nowadays)?

So, for the first draft .... i see: WR Bob Jones has 92 speed, 90 acceleration, 80 catch, etc

then, a few years later in offline franchise draft-- I find: WR Jacob Allen has 92 speed, 90 acceleration, 80 catch, etc ....
Jacob Allen will be a clone (attribute wise) of Bob Jones.... is that correct for offline franchise drafts?

One last question, do Bob Jones and Jacob Allen follow the same development chart?

Anyways, found your post interesting and was just seeking clarification.
Thanks.

[ktd1976]

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Anyone find it weird that the scouted letter grades mean nothing now? I mean you scout a guy who is b+, b+, b ... and those attributes come out almost always as 77, 78, 74. What’s the point of the letter grades if they are never accurate anymore? Seemed like a bug to me. This guy should have been c+, c+,c r or at best b-. The range is way too large for the letter grades especially when they Never meet that grade ever. Something is off with scouting this year. I get the ratings spread thing and agree with lower overalls, but at least have the scouted letter grades mean something. Right now they are meaningless.

What is happening is this......

Madden adjusted the ratings of the players on the roster. Now, there are some starters that are in the low 70's, even the upper 60's overall. The whole rating system was revamped. Same with the draft classes.

I will use QB Throw power as an example. (THP)

Last year, there were several QB's with THP over 90, many over 95. This changed this year. Now, there are only a handful that have THP over 90.

So, the rating grades in the drafts have changed to reflect this.

An A grade is an elite grade. Last year, it was mid to upper 90's. This year, it might top out at 90. Could be anywhere from 85-95.

A QB that had a THP grade of A last year was almost guaranteed to come out with a THP rating of 95 or higher. That is not the case this year. An A grade might not even translate to a 90 or over rating.

Because the ratings of the roster have changed, so have the ratings of the draft class, to reflect that.

No longer can we assume that A or A- grades are going to be over 90. An A- grade could be a low 80's rating now.

It is all working as intended. We just have to adjust our expectations when we see the grades.

[KPH2293]

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I drafted a 78 OVR QB with superstar x-factor progression with the 7th pick (owned the pick due to a trade). Good timing with the retirement of Tom Brady.

In free agency, I signed Drew Brees in case this guy didn't fall to me, but he did lol. He was projected to go #1 overall.

I'm currently playing Brees because he's the better player right now, but that leads me to a question. I thought I read that development didn't go down this year. Is that true? I'd hate for my rookie's development to go down because he's on the bench.

[Gosens6]

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Started a Bills franchise. Discovered one thing very quickly, Josh Allen is absolutely terrible this year in game. (At least when I’m controlling him) every other pass was either off target or a pick. I got fed up the 3rd game of the year after he had a stat line of 8/22 , 4 INTs .. I put Tyree Jackson in.

In short, Jackson was phenomenal for us. Accuracy was sometimes all over the place, but in MUCH frequency than Josh Allen. He threw for 2,633 yards, 21 touchdowns and 9 INTs. He also ran for 670 yards and another 7 TDS. Got him up to 73 overall by the end of the season.

Still, I knew a change had to come at the QB position. Scouted this guy. Was big, strong, and fast as all hell out of LSU

Was projected to be a late 2nd rounder, but after scouting, found out he was much better than that .. grabbed him with the 15th pick and he immediately became my starter after just one preseason game

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Turns out, he’s a superstar X-Factor... dope

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Through 13 games the Bills are 8-5 after starting the season 0-4! He had a few growing pains but once he got his wheels under him, it was over.

He’s currently thrown for 3,470 yards (2nd in NFL) , 31 TDS (2nd in NFL) and 15 INTs. The interceptions will be MUCH lower next year . He also has 482 yards rushing and NINE rushing touchdowns. The guy is incredible and I think front runner for MVP


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[Datninja619]

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Started a Bills franchise. Discovered one thing very quickly, Josh Allen is absolutely terrible this year in game. (At least when I’m controlling him) every other pass was either off target or a pick. I got fed up the 3rd game of the year after he had a stat line of 8/22 , 4 INTs .. I put Tyree Jackson in.

In short, Jackson was phenomenal for us. Accuracy was sometimes all over the place, but in MUCH frequency than Josh Allen. He threw for 2,633 yards, 21 touchdowns and 9 INTs. He also ran for 670 yards and another 7 TDS. Got him up to 73 overall by the end of the season.

Still, I knew a change had to come at the QB position. Scouted this guy. Was big, strong, and fast as all hell out of LSU

Was projected to be a late 2nd rounder, but after scouting, found out he was much better than that .. grabbed him with the 15th pick and he immediately became my starter after just one preseason game

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Turns out, he’s a superstar X-Factor... dope

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Through 13 games the Bills are 8-5 after starting the season 0-4! He had a few growing pains but once he got his wheels under him, it was over.

He’s currently thrown for 3,470 yards (2nd in NFL) , 31 TDS (2nd in NFL) and 15 INTs. The interceptions will be MUCH lower next year . He also has 482 yards rushing and NINE rushing touchdowns. The guy is incredible and I think front runner for MVP


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Oh my Lanta. I love the introduction to hidden traits this year. Makes those late or "I'll just pick him" draft picks alot more special.

I wish I would have took a starring photo of this OLB I drafted. He's now in his second year and is 89 OVR (I think. At work RN). Hoping he can actually develop into a X-Factor.

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[Sucram7777]

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Oh my Lanta. I love the introduction to hidden traits this year. Makes those late or "I'll just pick him" draft picks alot more special.

I wish I would have took a starring photo of this OLB I drafted. He's now in his second year and is 89 OVR (I think. At work RN). Hoping he can actually develop into a X-Factor.

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I'm glad they did this, but the pose the Player makes upon being drafted still gives away his Development Trait.