MAJOR Coverage Issue

[oneamongthefence]

Re: MAJOR Coverage Issue

I get annoyed when linebackers watch a ball sail eight over their head and make no attempt to make a play on the ball. Or when it's caught the defender will stand there for a second like they're frozen in place and give up a huge play. I get that super linebackers are gone and that's a good thing but what we got instead are super dumb linebackers that sit and watch as receivers catch the ball and take off. There should be defensive hand off logic where a defender will follow a receiver in their zone and hand off to the other defender when the receiver goes into their zone. Linebackers stay flat footed way too often to be effective.

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[edgevoice]

Re: MAJOR Coverage Issue

I get annoyed when linebackers watch a ball sail eight over their head and make no attempt to make a play on the ball. Or when it's caught the defender will stand there for a second like they're frozen in place and give up a huge play. I get that super linebackers are gone and that's a good thing but what we got instead are super dumb linebackers that sit and watch as receivers catch the ball and take off. There should be defensive hand off logic where a defender will follow a receiver in their zone and hand off to the other defender when the receiver goes into their zone. Linebackers stay flat footed way too often to be effective.

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A few patches ago, I was not seeing the linebacker issue near as often and also experienced actual pass deflections. However, during the patch where EA announced they tweeked reaction time down slightly, it's definitely again apparent. It's my personal biggest issue with gameplay.

It appears they are having trouble marrying the new touch pass ball trajectories with realistic outcomes of underneath defenders, mostly linebackers. They had it tuned reasonably well at one point and I don't see any sensible reason as to why underneath coverage was further dumbed down.

[simbayless]

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This year madden was definitely a lipstick on a pig this year especially the coverage.I heard a little birdy they did this intentionally.Next year is not a buy for me. Man coverage issue in 2020 should be an embarrassment and slap in the face to consumers intelligence but I will let you guys cook and give them a pass.

[roadman]

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I think Khaliib explains the LB's coverage pretty good here, even if it doesn't make sense for the way the ratings are rated:

The reason LB’s are so terrible in their zones is mainly due to their low ZCV ratings (50-60’s) along with low ratings lowering their “knock-out” rate on contact hits over the middle.
- occasionally a generated LB will come in with a 70’ish ZCV Rating, rare but it happens

[jfsolo]

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A big issue is that there simply aren't enough animations to accurately portray enough variety in terms of realistic looking failure outcomes in coverage, especially for lower rated players.

Too often lower rated players go the wrong way in an extremely exaggerated fashion or simply freeze. It's ratings based, but the lack of animations make it seem AI based.(As has been mentioned deep zones do lack adequate logic for their assignments though)

I have two 80 plus zone high awareness Superstar LBs in my Franchise and those guys are great in coverage. They don't make every play, but they are in the right place almost always, and never look like deer in headlights.

Personally I feel like coverage has gotten better during the year instead of worse, but I only play vs the CPU.

[Vanilla_Gorilla]

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A big issue is that there simply aren't enough animations to accurately portray enough variety in terms of realistic looking failure outcomes in coverage, especially for lower rated players.

Too often lower rated players go the wrong way in an extremely exaggerated fashion or simply freeze. It's ratings based, but the lack of animations make it seem AI based.(As has been mentioned deep zones do lack adequate logic for their assignments though)

I have two 80 plus zone high awareness Superstar LBs in my Franchise and those guys are great in coverage. They don't make every play, but they are in the right place almost always, and never look like deer in headlights.

Personally I feel like coverage has gotten better during the year instead of worse, but I only play vs the CPU.

After the recent patch and switching over to Charter04’s sliders with Coverage and Reaction sliders at 65 has my zones playing like they’re supposed to. Sure I get some of the main Madden 20 issues but it is SO much better than before.

Man Coverage is just plain broken this year. There’s something in the programming of the DB footing and hip movement that really took a nose dive this year. It’s still effective sometimes but it’s glaring when it’s glitching.

[Shosum13]

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After the recent patch and switching over to Charter04’s sliders with Coverage and Reaction sliders at 65 has my zones playing like they’re supposed to. Sure I get some of the main Madden 20 issues but it is SO much better than before.

Man Coverage is just plain broken this year. There’s something in the programming of the DB footing and hip movement that really took a nose dive this year. It’s still effective sometimes but it’s glaring when it’s glitching.

This year it seems like the only truly effective man coverage is press man coverage. Even that depends on you having CB’s with good press ratings and relies on your front getting in the backfield before a WR can finally break free. It’s really frustrating because I’m usually a fan of running a fast attacking 4-3 with athletic man coverage corners and an athletic front 4 that can get home. But off man coverage this year is so bad it makes it hard to run man coverages as much as I want to. Even zone coverage has its share of issues just not as glaring as off man coverage this year.

[ForUntoOblivionSoar∞]

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You mention 2 plays where you didn't get the reaction you have expected.


Run the play 10 times in practice mode and see how your players react. If it's always the same, then try some adjustments to stop it. If you still see holes you can't defend, then user the defender and take away the hole. After all, it's still a game to be played and no NFL broadcast.


The game is far from perfect, but for all these plays there's usually an explaination and a way to stop it or make it much more difficult for the opponent.

Eh, players doing what their NFL counterparts, or even HIGH SCHOOL counterparts would do isn't something extra. It ought to be in the game. Defenders don't just react to the ball in zone coverage. They react to routes. They react to breaks. This should be adjusted.

[Jagsfan24]

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I am more of a man coverage guy but this year i seem to run more zone due to the bad man coverage mechanics and animations. Usually when i try to play man thats when the cpu will call a curl route play or an OUT route where the wr gets a speed boost on a cut and my corner is slow to react on it

[ChaseB]

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Corner routes are just very hard to stop in general in this game, so that aspect of it I don't think plays as much into zone vs. man and all that.