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  • asantead22
    Banned
    • Mar 2014
    • 385

    #1

    DB Glitch and Speed Disparity

    When will EA fix the DB coverage glitch? Every year the DBs do the same coverage overrun on wheel, out and hooks routes!
    Also, the speed threshold is the worst setting ever! I have experimented with this setting since it made it into the game and the consensus is 0 is the most realistic setting.
    Randy Moss and Deion Sanders type speed should not be held back to make it easier for slower guys to keep up. In the NFL, coverage schemes and strategy helps slower guys defend against speed burners. Please get rid of the speed threshold because it has ruined your series. Quirky animations, suction animations are seen when the speed threshold is on. The games are actually pretty decent without it.


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  • underdog13
    MVP
    • Apr 2012
    • 3222

    #2
    Re: DB Glitch and Speed Disparity

    First time I've seen someone on OS request less user options.

    What do you mean turn it on / off ? It's a slider.
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    • Hooe
      Hall Of Fame
      • Aug 2002
      • 21554

      #3
      Re: DB Glitch and Speed Disparity

      You could just reset the disparity threshold slider back to its default value - 50 - and pretend the slider no longer exists.

      Personally speaking, setting that slider to zero sounds like utter insanity to me. IMO doing that would easily cause chaos on the field.

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      • asantead22
        Banned
        • Mar 2014
        • 385

        #4
        Re: DB Glitch and Speed Disparity

        Originally posted by underdog13
        First time I've seen someone on OS request less user options.

        What do you mean turn it on / off ? It's a slider.


        The game is far from perfect and what I mentioned above is my biggest gripe!!! I have played all ps4 and xbox 1 versions and the major issues center around the threshold. The game on All-Madden Default without the threshold (0) plays pretty good football! EA has to address the DB issues!


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        • Darth Aegis
          Lord of Suffering
          • Jul 2012
          • 4169

          #5
          Re: DB Glitch and Speed Disparity

          Originally posted by asantead22
          When will EA fix the DB coverage glitch? Every year the DBs do the same coverage overrun on wheel, out and hooks routes!
          Also, the speed threshold is the worst setting ever! I have experimented with this setting since it made it into the game and the consensus is 0 is the most realistic setting.
          Randy Moss and Deion Sanders type speed should not be held back to make it easier for slower guys to keep up. In the NFL, coverage schemes and strategy helps slower guys defend against speed burners. Please get rid of the speed threshold because it has ruined your series. Quirky animations, suction animations are seen when the speed threshold is on. The games are actually pretty decent without it.


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          I do feel that 0 threshold is the best setting this year as far as player movement is concerned. It also doesn't seem as wide open as in years past. Default seems decent and anything higher and you have sloppy footwork all over the field. User coverage is pretty bad this year at times (no one seems to be able to cover a TE again) and if you set it to around 85 it seems to give your AI teammates somewhat of a brain in coverage.. Its always a pick your poison with this title. Plus the more and more I start modding the game on PC I realize how little ratings matter in the grand scheme of things.
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          • asantead22
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            • Mar 2014
            • 385

            #6
            DB Glitch and Speed Disparity

            Originally posted by DaReal Milticket
            I do feel that 0 threshold is the best setting this year as far as player movement is concerned. It also doesn't seem as wide open as in years past. Default seems decent and anything higher and you have sloppy footwork all over the field. User coverage is pretty bad this year at times (no one seems to be able to cover a TE again) and if you set it to around 85 it seems to give your AI teammates somewhat of a brain in coverage.. Its always a pick your poison with this title. Plus the more and more I start modding the game on PC I realize how little ratings matter in the grand scheme of things.


            I will not purchase the PS4 or Xbox 1 versions of Madden 21 but hopefully both next generations games. If they mess those versions up, I m done!!! Lol


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            • Darth Aegis
              Lord of Suffering
              • Jul 2012
              • 4169

              #7
              Re: DB Glitch and Speed Disparity

              Originally posted by asantead22
              I will not purchase the PS4 or Xbox 1 versions of Madden 21 but hopefully both next generations games. If they mess those versions up, I m done!!! Lol


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              Well I pay a subscription fee for EA origin on PC so it should be included in with that (I think). I have played other games on there so it's justified. I'm excited to get a new Madden & put 20 to bed. I'm a gluten for punishment when it comes to this series. I don't really like the superstar abilities (turn them off) & figure we'll get another yr of those before they drop them out of the game. Hopefully the different gameplay speeds come back, thats really has put a damper on me really enjoying 20.
              Last edited by Darth Aegis; 05-01-2020, 08:29 PM.
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              • asantead22
                Banned
                • Mar 2014
                • 385

                #8
                Re: DB Glitch and Speed Disparity

                Originally posted by DaReal Milticket
                Well I pay a subscription fee for EA origin on PC so it should be included in with that (I think). I have played other games on there so it's justified. I'm excited to get a new Madden & put 20 to bed. I'm a gluten for punishment when it comes to this series. I don't really like the superstar abilities (turn them off) & figure we'll get another yr of those before they drop them out of the game. Hopefully the different gameplay speeds come back, thats really has put a damper on me really enjoying 20.


                I used to love the PC version when I was a manager at Best Buy, but trying to keep up with the latest graphics card, processor, etc.... got too expensive. I may go back if the pc gets the next gen version of Madden 21.


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                • capa
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                  • Jul 2002
                  • 5321

                  #9
                  Re: DB Glitch and Speed Disparity

                  Does speed at 0 allow a nose tackle to catch a RB from behind in open field?

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                  • Nickda55
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                    • Jul 2012
                    • 341

                    #10
                    Re: DB Glitch and Speed Disparity

                    The speed threshold argument doesn't even make sense. If you don't like it at 0, just set it to default 50.

                    Why would you want the option removed from the game entirely..especially when you didn't have to make any adjustments to the default settings if you didn't want to..

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                    • cusefan74
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                      • Jul 2010
                      • 2408

                      #11
                      Re: DB Glitch and Speed Disparity

                      Originally posted by capa
                      Does speed at 0 allow a nose tackle to catch a RB from behind in open field?
                      No it doesn't. At zero you see the real speed difference between guys.

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                      • Shogunreaper
                        Rookie
                        • Nov 2016
                        • 339

                        #12
                        Re: DB Glitch and Speed Disparity

                        Originally posted by asantead22
                        I used to love the PC version when I was a manager at Best Buy, but trying to keep up with the latest graphics card, processor, etc.... got too expensive. I may go back if the pc gets the next gen version of Madden 21.


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                        i mean i'm using a 1060 which is a 4 year old card at this point, it had no problem maxing out madden 20 with room to spare.

                        i'm sure it will be able to run madden 21 with no problems either. Might need to bump down settings but i doubt it will look worse than consoles being as it will be the first time they make the game on that gen.

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                        • asantead22
                          Banned
                          • Mar 2014
                          • 385

                          #13
                          Re: DB Glitch and Speed Disparity

                          Originally posted by capa
                          Does speed at 0 allow a nose tackle to catch a RB from behind in open field?


                          No, its the opposite! 0 creates the biggest distance between speed variations between players. Now if you have a lineman rated too speed wise then it could happen


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                          • asantead22
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                            • Mar 2014
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                            #14
                            Re: DB Glitch and Speed Disparity

                            Originally posted by Nickda55
                            The speed threshold argument doesn't even make sense. If you don't like it at 0, just set it to default 50.



                            Why would you want the option removed from the game entirely..especially when you didn't have to make any adjustments to the default settings if you didn't want to..


                            Its does make SENSE! IT CREATES POOR ANIMATIONS AND IS A CHEAP WAY TO PREVENT FAST GUYS FROM DOMINATING THE GAME. Football has always had speed variations since it first started. The threshold is a cheap way to close the gap instead of strategy and schemes! If you have ever coached football then you will know what I mean. The beauty of the game is trying to gameplan and implement it to stop your opponent. Trying to stop Randy Moss from a strategic standpoint is a part of the game. The coaches going up against him do not ask Randy Moss to not run his fastest!


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                            • Executor
                              Pro
                              • Aug 2012
                              • 549

                              #15
                              Re: DB Glitch and Speed Disparity

                              Originally posted by asantead22
                              Its does make SENSE! IT CREATES POOR ANIMATIONS AND IS A CHEAP WAY TO PREVENT FAST GUYS FROM DOMINATING THE GAME. Football has always had speed variations since it first started. The threshold is a cheap way to close the gap instead of strategy and schemes! If you have ever coached football then you will know what I mean. The beauty of the game is trying to gameplan and implement it to stop your opponent. Trying to stop Randy Moss from a strategic standpoint is a part of the game. The coaches going up against him do not ask Randy Moss to not run his fastest!


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                              No it does not make sense. Aside from a poor animations argument, which is also more than debatable (I play with seventy and have exactly zero issues with animations, but hey, different people see different things), the value of speed threshold lets each user decide what HE thinks is the best representation of real-life speed disparity between players on the field. Some think it's fifty, some think it's zero, some think it's 75... Everyone can play how they see fit. To each their own, that's all it is.
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