Why Next-Gen Madden Can't Make the Same Mistakes All Over Again

[jfsolo]

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This is just my interpretation of course but it's interesting that so many people who have problems with Madden across the board seem to presuppose that they would definitely enjoy the rebuilt(one worked on for years and not rushed) Madden more and not less. I guess the game just being different in this case would be automatically make it better for many folks.

[illwill10]

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This is just my interpretation of course but it's interesting that so many people who have problems with Madden across the board seem to presuppose that they would definitely enjoy the rebuilt(one worked on for years and not rushed) Madden more and not less. I guess the game just being different in this case would be automatically make it better for many folks.

The gameplay is good. It could be a lot worse. Even rebuilding could lead to a Madden 06 situation. But when I suggest a rebuild its because of legacy issues that recurring bandaid fixes won't fix. OL/DL logic, AI in whole, dependency on 2 Man animation, animations based gameplay, shifting/warping, physics not mattering as much. Those of the things I would want to see in a rebuild being fixed

[canes21]

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The gameplay is good. It could be a lot worse. Even rebuilding could lead to a Madden 06 situation. But when I suggest a rebuild its because of legacy issues that recurring bandaid fixes won't fix. OL/DL logic, AI in whole, dependency on 2 Man animation, animations based gameplay, shifting/warping, physics not mattering as much. Those of the things I would want to see in a rebuild being fixed

Couldn't say it any better.

[parissims]

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If they had a competitor i would agree that they cant do the same but lol. They can do whatever they want as seen for the last 10 years or so. If they had competition madden would be on the shelf with nba live

This^^^^^^

[RambleOn84]

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The fact that the franchise was more advanced in 2007 than it is now SHOULD be embarrassing for the folks at EA. But they don't really care about putting out a quality product; they'd rather tweak the virtual card game to entice kids to spend more of their parents' money on their gambling mechanics.

This is why I quit buying Madden 2 years ago, and I don't miss it one bit. Head Coach 09 on PS3 scratches the Franchise itch for me.

[snc237]

I remember being in highschool so pumped up for next gen madden 06. I loved my Xbox version and couldn’t wait to play the game with these new amazing graphics... friend got madden 06 on 360.  While things popped in HD  everything else was 5 major steps back .  Personally madden hasn’t only IThe last few years starting to feel like madden of old and even then it’s still not quite there. We literally lost 7-8 of madden progress just playing catch up. We are so far behind where madden would be and NBA2k is a prime example of what could of been if they just built of ps2 era of madden 

[Americas Team]

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Tear it down and rebuild! No more bandaids over a broken foundation!

[illwill10]

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Couldn't say it any better.

2 man animations definitely need to go and more 1 on 1 gameplay. It's not as bad as it use to be, especially how WR/DB interactions use to be. They use to just have DBs mirror the WRs during animations. Which was bad during catch situations where instead of during a appropriate INT animation, they use to mirror the WR catch animation.

I just hope that AI is vastly improved next gen. I liked what the gridiron notes had to say about AI improvements for current gen. I just hope AI is taken to a whole Next Level(pun intended). Even if the engine is the same, vastly improving AI, would change gameplay for the better. The game just feels so scripted where interaction happens and you are in the hands of scripted animations playing out.

I do feel like this current gen was definitely better than the 7th gen, at least as far as gameplay. Gameplay was solid for most of the generation. If Franchise and AI was in a better state, I would have really enjoyed this generation. I still hold the 6th gen(PS2/Xbox) as my favorite Madden gen. I just want next gen to be a big step in the right direction. 6th to 7th gen was a big step in wrong direction. While gameplay and graphics got better, I don't think 7th to 8th gen was a big leap. I feel like for gaming in general, current gen was mostly a better experience but not a huge leap over 7th gen. I'm hoping next gen is a huge leap that leads to different better experiences

[Holy Toledo]

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While I understand your rationale, I think the reality is if they did "rebuild" it's hard to encapsulate what that means in a sport game coming out every year. It's near impossible to do something like that in a year, and if it was bereft of features and gameplay elements because they wanted to go back to basics, there's just about zero chance folks end up cool with that.

Why don’t they split the devs into 2 teams? Each team has a two year cycle to make significant improvements to their assigned mode.


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[baconbits11]

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I don't believe EA knows how to rebuild the game, the code is so messed up. Patched together like a house with the basement on top, a two-car garage in the middle and the front door that opens to the roof.

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[juicey79]

My problem with EA and Madden is that the game of football fundamentally hasn’t changed. The technology to make these games have. I’m sick of reading that this installment will make process when this is 28 installment since Madden on sera geneisis. How can we not get a blocking logic or conerback awareness logic right at this point? This is ridiculous so I am not buying until the price drop.

[OriolesFanRD]

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Madden can continue to make any mistake it wants as its the only game in town, literally. Until the exclusive license ends (Which won't ever happen) they can do what they want whenever they want.

[mcpats]

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While I understand your rationale, I think the reality is if they did "rebuild" it's hard to encapsulate what that means in a sport game coming out every year. It's near impossible to do something like that in a year, and if it was bereft of features and gameplay elements because they wanted to go back to basics, there's just about zero chance folks end up cool with that.

NBA 2K says "hold my beer"

[tru11]

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As long as EA has the exlusive license they can do whatever they want as people will buy the game regardless.

No other option besides not playing.

They dont and wont care.


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[bucky60]

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This is just my interpretation of course but it's interesting that so many people who have problems with Madden across the board seem to presuppose that they would definitely enjoy the rebuilt(one worked on for years and not rushed) Madden more and not less. I guess the game just being different in this case would be automatically make it better for many folks.

I guess the answer to your question depends on how much someone likes the current Madden. The less someone likes madden the better chance that a rebuild of gameplay and franchise would end up being better.