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  • ninertravel
    MVP
    • Aug 2015
    • 4830

    #1

    What do people think about presentation?

    I do like some new things but no variety at all a pre season game the players come out looking like they are entering the super bowl.

    Also what happened to the O Line players on the first drive of a team in the game?? all I see now is the QB announced with player ratings or season stats. they don't focus on any other players. remember when they would show the O-line starters ?? and stuff like that why is that no more?
  • Hooe
    Hall Of Fame
    • Aug 2002
    • 21554

    #2
    Re: What do people think about presentation?

    What EA is able to do with gameday presentation each year unfortunately always falls somewhere in the middle of a never-ending tug-of-war between the "we want authenticity, presentation, and spectacle" sim crowd and the "we will button through every cutscene because we just want to play the damn game" competitive / MUT crowd.

    It's a weird middle ground that never really satisfies anyone, and justifying building features which don't cater to the entire game audience is a tough pitch for producers to make on a game as big as Madden is.

    As someone who generally never skips cutscenes, I'd certainly like to see them do more than they currently have.

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    • K_rob11
      MVP
      • Sep 2005
      • 1465

      #3
      Re: What do people think about presentation?

      Originally posted by CM Hooe
      What EA is able to do with gameday presentation each year unfortunately always falls somewhere in the middle of a never-ending tug-of-war between the "we want authenticity, presentation, and spectacle" sim crowd and the "we will button through every cutscene because we just want to play the damn game" competitive / MUT crowd.

      It's a weird middle ground that never really satisfies anyone, and justifying building features which don't cater to the entire game audience is a tough pitch for producers to make on a game as big as Madden is.

      As someone who generally never skips cutscenes, I'd certainly like to see them do more than they currently have.

      I never understood why they couldn't just include an option to have full-blown TV-style presentation with a "quick-play" option in the menu that turns this presentation off for those that want to skip through everything. I honestly even miss the break from the huddle and walk up to the line and always hated they took that out to cater to the "hurry-up-always-in-a-rush online crowd".
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      • MizzouRah
        All Star
        • Jul 2002
        • 8515

        #4
        Re: What do people think about presentation?

        I do miss when they used to show the starters on offense and defense.

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        • timhere1970
          MVP
          • Sep 2013
          • 1810

          #5
          Re: What do people think about presentation?

          I look at presentation when I first get the game but after awhile I just want to get to the game. I will say this is the most I have played the game in a long time without silencing the announcers. I am already tired of the finished the season announcement a game early though.

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          • ForUntoOblivionSoar∞
            MVP
            • Dec 2009
            • 4682

            #6
            Re: What do people think about presentation?

            Needs work.


            (1) We need more presentation.
            (2) We need presentation and camera angles that duplicate broadcasts, rather than these "beyond broadcast" things.
            Originally posted by Therebelyell626
            I am going to create a team called "the happy town fundament rapscallions" and hurt your already diminishing image
            https://forums.operationsports.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2049813056

            Last edited by your mom; 06-06-2006 at 6:06 PM.

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            • blitz2kx
              Rookie
              • Jul 2019
              • 30

              #7
              Re: What do people think about presentation?

              I like the pregame...thankfully they scrapped that stupid highlight reel Monday Night Raw looking thing they did last year. (Who the hell thought it was a good idea to show highlights for a game that hadn't even been played yet!!?)

              But the QB intro/stats is awful...maybe it appeals to casuals but we want to see the damn lineups like a real broadcast.

              Some of the other stuff is okay, but the player interaction on the sideline needs work...I always see offensive players arguing with defensive players on the sideline about a play. That literally would never happen.

              Couple that with the fact there are now a TON of coaches who don't have they're likenesses in the game, and the entire package is incredibly immersion breaking.

              The engine looks great, 120hz is beautiful on my Series X ..but they need to do better here.

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              • canes21
                Hall Of Fame
                • Sep 2008
                • 22893

                #8
                Re: What do people think about presentation?

                Originally posted by K_rob11
                I never understood why they couldn't just include an option to have full-blown TV-style presentation with a "quick-play" option in the menu that turns this presentation off for those that want to skip through everything. I honestly even miss the break from the huddle and walk up to the line and always hated they took that out to cater to the "hurry-up-always-in-a-rush online crowd".
                That was am option just a year or two ago. There was a standard presentation option and a quick presentation option. Unfortunately this was only an option for Play Now games. It may still be there, I honestly don't remember if it is or not.

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                • Hooe
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Aug 2002
                  • 21554

                  #9
                  Re: What do people think about presentation?

                  Originally posted by canes21
                  That was am option just a year or two ago. There was a standard presentation option and a quick presentation option. Unfortunately this was only an option for Play Now games. It may still be there, I honestly don't remember if it is or not.

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                  I recently found that the Quick Presentation option is available in Madden 22 within Ultimate Team.

                  It's very useful there (and even as a pro-broadcast presentation guy, I have quick presentation enabled in MUT) because so much of playing MUT Solos is rapidly jumping in and out of various and wildly different game situations. There's no game story to tell when Madden is played this way, so the presentation matters less and being able to save time is more valuable.

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                  • TarHeelPhenom
                    All Star
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 7102

                    #10
                    Re: What do people think about presentation?

                    My pipe dream for presentation is that one day, they will secure the license to CBS and Fox...much like they did getting CBS and ESPN back in the day with NCAA Basketball 10'. AFC games on CBS and NFC on Fox. If not, then I'd even settle for the NFL Network similar to what MLB The Show has.
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                    • Thunderhorse
                      Rookie
                      • Jun 2011
                      • 485

                      #11
                      Re: What do people think about presentation?

                      Originally posted by MizzouRah
                      I do miss when they used to show the starters on offense and defense.
                      I miss that too. I'd ask why they took that out, but there's no point.

                      I have to admit that the graphics are legitimately impressive. I'm not sure if it's the lighting or if I'm just not used to playing enough, but the frame rate and clarity on next gen is the most impressed I've been with a game's graphics in years.

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                      • ninertravel
                        MVP
                        • Aug 2015
                        • 4830

                        #12
                        Re: What do people think about presentation?

                        Originally posted by Thunderhorse
                        I miss that too. I'd ask why they took that out, but there's no point.

                        I have to admit that the graphics are legitimately impressive. I'm not sure if it's the lighting or if I'm just not used to playing enough, but the frame rate and clarity on next gen is the most impressed I've been with a game's graphics in years.
                        Yes sometimes it's nice to see the starters and you think to yourself 'oh someone must be out injured he is starting' it helps get to know who the players are on teams as well. I hate how that is gone. now it is just the QB... I really miss it it needs to be back.

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                        • xCoachDx
                          MVP
                          • Aug 2015
                          • 1295

                          #13
                          Re: What do people think about presentation?

                          Originally posted by CM Hooe
                          What EA is able to do with gameday presentation each year unfortunately always falls somewhere in the middle of a never-ending tug-of-war between the "we want authenticity, presentation, and spectacle" sim crowd and the "we will button through every cutscene because we just want to play the damn game" competitive / MUT crowd.

                          It's a weird middle ground that never really satisfies anyone, and justifying building features which don't cater to the entire game audience is a tough pitch for producers to make on a game as big as Madden is.

                          As someone who generally never skips cutscenes, I'd certainly like to see them do more than they currently have.

                          So why not appease the crowd that wants authenticity if the ones that don’t care are just skipping cutscenes anyways? That’s what I’ve always wondered.

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                          • Hooe
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Aug 2002
                            • 21554

                            #14
                            Re: What do people think about presentation?

                            Originally posted by xCoachDx
                            So why not appease the crowd that wants authenticity if the ones that don’t care are just skipping cutscenes anyways? That’s what I’ve always wondered.
                            Why pay your artists and engineers to build a feature which makes the game better for half the audience when you could pay them to build a feature which makes the game better for the whole audience (or the overwhelming majority)?

                            From the eyes of a product owner, the latter is obviously more bang for your buck. That was the point I was trying to make with my "tough pitch" remark.

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                            • ForUntoOblivionSoar∞
                              MVP
                              • Dec 2009
                              • 4682

                              #15
                              Re: What do people think about presentation?

                              Originally posted by CM Hooe
                              Why pay your artists and engineers to build a feature which makes the game better for half the audience when you could pay them to build a feature which makes the game better for the whole audience (or the overwhelming majority)?

                              From the eyes of a product owner, the latter is obviously more bang for your buck. That was the point I was trying to make with my "tough pitch" remark.
                              That ideology didn’t serve them so well last year when they got absolutely crushed in the media, and so far the bitterness of years of neglecting the sim crowd hasn’t dissipated, resulting in inaccurate negative reviews. Perhaps they will learn their lesson.
                              Originally posted by Therebelyell626
                              I am going to create a team called "the happy town fundament rapscallions" and hurt your already diminishing image
                              https://forums.operationsports.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2049813056

                              Last edited by your mom; 06-06-2006 at 6:06 PM.

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